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Jenna's father wasn't cheated. Brandon had paid for the patent. Alan Michael even found the agreement. AM lost it because he was chasing after Eleni who was chasing after Frank who was looking for Alex in Bangladesh or somewhere. That's what caused Spaulding to lose the case. Jenna got Spaulding, lock stock and barrel, and kicked the Chamberlains and Spauldings out. (Jenna met Roger during the infamous blackout, and they eventually became lovers. Roger financed the lawsuit, and knew there was an agreement, but paid off Brandon's old secretary to disappear so he could get his hands on Spaulding.) Vanessa goes back to Lewis, and helps Billy poach clients left and right. A-M gets Jenna to exchange the Springfield Journal for the Spaulding mansion, Nick goes back to print journalism in the hopes of exposing Roger. Vanessa authorizes a line of credit for them from Lewis funds, on the condition that Fletch is the Editor in Chief.
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@alwaysAMC Jenna came to town and stole some of Alex's jewelry. Then Roger used Jenna to get a hold of Spaulding. (way too long a story) while Alex was out of town. And part of the reason I loathe **** is his self-righteous [!@#$%^&*] nature. ANYONE who knew Vanessa knew her work was important, and that she had a tendency to "bury herself in work" when she was upset. Aside from whether or not Jenna was "Vanessa's best friend", the fact that &&&& wants to ream her for how she reacts to someone's death, when we know how hard she took Maureen's death and Henry's, he can go STFU. From the way you described it, Vanessa wasn't expecting Vicky. Yet **** assumes the worst. UGH.
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BTG: January 2026 Discussion Thread
Please, BTG, just fire Tomas. Dude went on and on and on about how Kat had been his "person" to go to with his problems (what, his broken dick? 'cause I don't recall him ever having a problem...) and whine about how she wouldn't let him be there for her. Ten minutes later, he's complaining to Jacob (who I can't recall him ever meeting...but whatev) about how "too independent" Kat is and hard to get to know. I think all Kat's problem has ever been is that she senses his potential dumb assed-ness and knows she's gonna regret ever getting his number. And whoever wrote the dialogue between Dana and Marcel---needs to go back to Skinemax. Or Hallmark. Because it was painfully painfully awkward and the opposite of banter-ish.
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Well, I swear they aged Coop to be older than Lizzie. I generally dislike SOARSing, but I lobster hate out of whack aging of characters. There are too many examples to list, GL just seemed to randomly bring back "legacy" children to fit whatever story they needed a character for. Beth seemed to take a correspondence course in "Schtupping your Daughter's Ex and Future Lovers" from the Brooke Logan School of Yucky Family Dynamics.
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Did Danny Cosgrove have any scenes with Bethany Joie Lenz, or was it all Nancy St Alban? I can't help but think they would've been fire. Instead, there's ol' dishrag Nancy, about as exciting as a piece of chewed gum on a sidewalk. I think JFP fell into a rut of bad casting decisions/departures that forces her hand in some respects. She refuses to let Kimberly Simms ink a one year deal that would've kept the Nick/Mindy story going (not my cup of tea, but whatev), Bev leaves, Jordan has his situation. There's the miscast Mindys, Geoffrey Scott isn't well received as Billy (if he ever even really would've stayed), Tangie, losing Beth Ehlers and Mark Derwin. Yes, it's her job to navigate those waters, and all shows lost performers every year, but GL really did feel snake bit for a while there. Re; '84 and '85, yeah, Reva isn't the problem (even if you found her annoying), it's the heavy plot point stories and influx of new, bland characters. Of course, a literal flotilla of them were attached to Reva via Kyle, but it didn't feel like Reva swallowed the show---yet.
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It was June '84, when GL either won the time slot, or beat GH's demos or something. They were not the overall number one (or whatever the rumors are. Sadly this also applies to ATWT which tries to claim 30 million viewers watched Steve and Betsy's wedding, and there's an entire thread debunking that, which breaks my heart) That two weeks in June also is the fallout of Reva's marrying HB, and Josh's resulting accident. Which is inexplicably NOT up in English to watch. Not trying to bask in Beth and Lujack's glow, because I remember watching that all LIVE and it all was can't miss TV. GL was the definition of FIRE. And they played that damn song for WEEKS.
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@alwaysAMC I don't think Billy ever mentioned Hamp again either (when Jordan returned) which is sad. But I guess I'd rather have not have him just randomly killed off-screen either. Yep, and I definitely remember all the crap over Rock Hudson/Linda Evans/Dynasty around the same time. I certainly wouldn't have wanted either Kim or Maeve to deal with anything even remotely approaching that. P&G certainly wasn't any more evolved just a few years later when they dumped Joe Breen from ATWT when his status was revealed.
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Now, y'know I pretty much ignore anything **** related. And most of what Jenna says period. Her taste in men was awful. LOL. I don't think Guiding Light acknowledged Zas's death. They treated him shamefully. But, I also can't recall them acknowledging any other former performer's death. They acknowledged Chris Bernau's, and while he hadn't been on the show for about a year, his character was still on screen. I also thought they kept his condition quiet and didn't discourage speculation that he might return in the press. They did on screen acknowledgements of both William Roerick and Larry Gates, but I don't think they did for Vince Williams, who played Hamp Speakes, and died in '97.
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I don't recall Alan liking Mindy. But I do think he clearly feared the effect Beth had on Phillip. Mindy was someone marginally more socially acceptable for his son than a poor nurse's daughter, who he probably thought he could control. By the time Chelsea rolled into Phillip's life, Alan could at least appreciate that she tried to get him to reconcile with his father (which I presume, I don't revisit a lot of Chelsea related story). The Reardons may have had humbler roots, but he knows them (after all Tom was connected to Brandon, et al through the Fishing Picture mystery), and they are connected (in a roundabout way) through Ed's marriage to Maureen and Henry's being Nola's father in law. I don't recall Alan's reaction to Phillip and Harley's marriage either, but by the end, he hated all the Coopers. It would've been interesting if they had brought Zach back at the end, because he kind of forgot he had a Cooper grandchild. (Which I'm just now realizing meant that Zach's half-sister was dating his half-brother at the end of the series.)_