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Just now, Vee said:

 

Again, it's something where if the show is going to wind down soon I wouldn't recast, just write him out. But if they apparently intend to continue indefinitely, then yeah, go for it.

That is the question...

26 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

As someone whose family migrated to another country whose siblings are made up of us who were born in the U.S. and elsewhere but have been raised here, I can tell you that identity and national affinity is a lot more complex than people might realize.

Often it cannot be reduced to an "either (this) or (that)" proposition.

It’s privilege to feel an uncomplicated relationship to “nationality.”

I can see both sides. At the end of the day, the show has totally burned itself out, but I do see how vital Jamal is/was in showing what an unapologetically gay black man could look like to an audience who’ve only known black gay men in a certain way. I’m sure Lee sees the show as a vessel to deliver that image.

Still, this is way more ink than Empire has had since that surprisingly huge first season (where it felt like every black person in the country watched). For a lot of people, this story’s a reminder that the show’s still airing. 

One of my friends from Spain even said she wasn’t Spanish even though her father is Basque and she’s lived in Spain most of her life. She’s certainly way more Spanish than Konta is British.

Meanwhile:

I think primetime viewers are just not accustomed to recasts. They form a stronger bond to a character “as played by so-and-so” instead of a character who is just part of a larger whole. It’s certainly easier on a show with a massive canvas like GoT to recast a secondary character like Daario, but I doubt they’d ever have recast Cersei, Tyrion, or even Sansa unless it was *very* early on. Fans would have rioted. Empire still has a relatively tight ensemble, so a new actor in a pivotal role can really throw off the energy. 

11 minutes ago, Khan said:

He had it coming.

 

1 minute ago, victoria foxton said:

This was risky of GH. Having the town patriarch and matriarch brutally beaten.  Around the time of GH's 30th anniversary. But this worked. It was the first big story the Hardy's had since the 70's. Adding to the momentum GH was experiencing at the time. 

I know I would have freaked out had I grown up with GH. It’s disturbing enough to watch a demented man attack two defenseless old people without me having any deep emotional attachment of a longtime viewer.

And speaking of disturbing scenes... Ryan Chamberlain brutally beating GH’s elderly patriarch and matriarch, Steve and Audrey Hardy.

Yeah, all Mackie McDonald has to do is make Delpo move. Delpo is having trouble retrieving tonight.

Hard to watch him like this. He should retire from the match, skip Acapulco, and just get ready for a defense of his Indian Wells title.

Soaps have gone too often to this well, even if we know how unfortunately too common sexual violence against women can be. But these stories have so often created powerful scenes. I loved Dano and Coppola together, and the last few seconds of this clip are imprinted on my mind forever.

Yeah, I thought about that too. How much longer does the show have? I suppose Fox might be willing to ride the show out if they can keep costs down and ratings don’t completely crater, but Terrence and Taraji are only going to get pricier as the show goes on, especially if Taraji’s film career continues to flourish. (She’s approaching 50, but look at Viola.) And Disney is going to own the show soon.

41 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

The best thing about soap storytelling is just how much ground they can cover, and the good ones do.  The angle of Powell in Marty’s rape story and aftermath was a strong part of that story.  How privilege and conforming can play a part in group assaults like what happened to her.  Especially in a college setting.

 

 

Certainly no one can claim that Marty didn’t have a voice in that story. I had just forgotten how much of that scene was from Powell’s POV.

Just need a thirtysomething black actor who can sing R&B, dance, and is gay or is comfortable playing gay. 

Anyone but Todrick Hall.

2 minutes ago, John said:

Lee Daniels wants to recast the role of Jamal who he  based off himself

https://tvline.com/2019/02/22/empire-recasts-jamal-jussie-smollett-leaving-season-6/

Yeah, I figured he wouldn’t easily give up on that character given Jamal’s personal importance to him.

Not to trigger anyone with these depictions of sexual assault, but there was Marty’s rape, which 26 years later is still unsettling and maybe a touch overproduced (even if it’s effective at conveying Marty’s drunken disorientation and dissociation). But it’s mostly about Powell’s manpain. Still that story touched everyone in Llanview for years, even if Marty ultimately became defined by it.