Khan

LMAO!

But Anita Bryant, Jr. is what they will get.

Here's what I suspect: ABC will do whatever they can to keep "The View" on the air through their 20th anniversary. Even if the ratings are [!@#$%^&*] and the co-hosts even worse.

Whoever said it in the updates (Cheap? Vix?) was right: "The View" is now just a panel made up of the most random bitches.

I'm just glad I didn't end up with Colonel Flagg or Frank Burns.

I'm most like B.J. Hunnicutt.

TBH, "Roseanne" and "One Day at a Time" represented me and my family better than ANY shows centered around African-Americans. Not that I didn't enjoy watching "Sanford," "Good Times," TCS and the rest. As I've said, I looked up to Cos and his beliefs in family, in education, in mutual tolerance and respect, and so forth. But even though I am AA and I knew as a child these shows were specifically for and about "my people," I still felt as if I was looking in on something I otherwise wouldn't have been privy to.

Not that this has anything at all to do with what you're talking about, AMS, but I wouldn't have gone near any DVD's of TCS even BEFORE all this happened for the simple reason that, after S1, the writing was so bad (IMO). But now...? Now, it just goes deeper than that. Now, it's like, "this girl who played Vanessa's fast-talking friend -- did he rape her, too, or was she not old enough? And dear God, if he ever tried anything with Clarice Taylor, I really don't wanna know!"

Oh, I agree -- totally. I'm just saying, I never could look at "Moonlighting" once people like Glenn Gordon Caron and Alan Ball dished their dirt on the broad. Knowing the stars' personal lives upsets the Irna Phillips in me, I guess, lol.

Good point. If and/or when future generations will be able to look past the retroactively added innuendos of "Dr. Cliff Huxtable" as a sex fiend, I think they will be able to appreciate, as we all do, the fact that a Black family could be on TV and NOT be living in the projects or trading in putdowns of their Caucasian counterparts or of each other.

Random thought, apropo of nothing: To think: Ed. Weinberger and Stan Daniels, who guided such shows as "Mary Tyler Moore" and "Taxi," also had to work for Bill Cosby and Johnny Carson, the two biggest jerks in an industry that also employed Jackie Gleason, Arthur Godfrey and, until a few weeks ago, Donald Trump. Granted, they were never raped and never had to join Joanna on the Rich Bitch Alimony Tour. Nevertheless, the dues they had to pay, making those two yahoos look good to the public.

And there is nothing wrong with that, IMO. Just hold onto those DVD's so you can pass them down to your kids, should you ever have any. But seriously. I wish I COULD emulate you in this instance. The single greatest disappointment of my life -- next to finding out about Cosby, of course -- was learning what a POS Cybill Shepherd was and is IRL. For me, this knowledge ruined my love for "Moonlighting," a series that practically gave me life as a comedy writer, to the extent that I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the DVD's OR the episodes that others posted all over the 'net. It's just too bitter-tasting for me (and knowing Bruce Willis was no day at the beach himself makes it only worse).

Again, I hope so. When I say these tragedies have tarnished Cos's legacy, I mean to say they have tarnished it for our generation (meaning, the children of the '70's, '80's, and early '90's, the ones who, as Vee so eloquently said above, looked to him as everyone's dad). Never again will we look at him OR his body of work without at the very least a side-eye. But, who knows, maybe future generations will feel differently. As I said before, though, it'll take time and distance from the rapes before that occurs. And even then, you know, there is still no guarantee "The Cosby Show" -- the so-called "crown jewel" of his legacy, the single biggest advancement in the cause of better depictions of African-Americans and traditional family values on network primetime TV, and a ratings and syndication juggernaut in its day -- won't end up buried next to "Beulah" and "Amos 'n' Andy" in the Black TV Series Graveyard (something, by the way, I never would have thought possible). But I'll say this much: because his involvement was more limited than it had been with his other shows, I have a feeling "A Different World" might be the one enterprise of his that will come through this relatively unscathed -- which is really ironic when you think about where it stood in the Cosby empire BEFORE these events unfolded.

For the most part, Vee, I agree with you. I, too, don't feel sad for Cos, because, well, how CAN you feel sad for someone who drugged and raped multiple women? Does the man have psychological demons? Most def. And if he hasn't sought professional help before now, then he should. But that is as far as my empathy will extend. Where we might disagree, though, is whether his legacy as a comedian -- the TV shows, the films and comedy albums, etc. -- will ever be reclaimed from this mess. The more I think about it, the more I think it will -- but not during his lifetime. In fact, it might not even occur during OUR lifetime. I think our present generation will have to die out first. Then, in another generation or two down the road, people might re-discover his work in one form or another, and they will be able to appreciate it as you and I and so many others did once upon a time. The scandals won't be forgotten, but enough time will have passed that it will be a side- or foot-note, perhaps, and not the beginning and end of the story. At least, I hope so.

"Depraved" is almost too mild of a word to put on it. I'm just sorry this scandal has effectively tarnished all the strides he has made over the years in regards to education and humanitarianism. But, as Fleetwood Mac once said, heroes are hard to find.

IKR? As if that messed-up family were more important to talk about than the upcoming election year, or healthcare, or women's reproductive rights, or the job/housing shortages, or entitlement reforms, or same-sex marriage equality, or the continuing battles being fought overseas with ISIS, Al Queda (sp?), etc. It's so stupid that ABC (and practically every other network) would rather focus on low-rent, ghetto-acting "celebrities" who are famous only for being famous. But, sadly, that's what the nation has come to. #waitingforJesustoreturn

Well, there IS that one moment during the legendary Ray Charles lip sync and dance when she surprised him by bumping him with her butt....

And that is just too damn sad for words. Agree.

Agree.

The only things Elizabeth had were a bottle of Miss Clairol and Bill Geddie's sweet political nothings being whispered in her earpiece.

Okay, then, how about Karen Malina White? Or maybe the one girl who played Vanessa's BFF, Janet?

From what I've seen of her on the show, I like, but I just think she came along at the wrong time. If we still were in the Meredith/Joy/Star/Lisa era, then there'd be no question of her belonging. Now, though, she's just too smart for network TV, let alone "The View."

I wouldn't be surprised if it were. She's ignorant, but she's also COMICALLY ignorant, which generates buzz. Negative buzz, yes, but as we all know, negative buzz beats no buzz at all these days.

I'd feel sorry for Wallace, but can you really feel sorry for someone who has been fired from a show that is way past its prime? If anything, I think "The View" and ABC did the girl a HUGE favor, because now she's available for other, more intelligent shows.

I have a feeling the "friend" Phillips is talking about is Erika Alexander. Don't ask me why, I just do.