EricMontreal22

All those clips from the 1981 Emmys, even with crap sound, are amazing--I love how they actually play LONG scenes so you can see WHY they were nominated.

At the time, ABC seemed much more willing, maybe even too willing, to fire EPs--look at the insane turnaround in EPS at Loving from the late 80s to early 90s. Now, it's the opposite (and yes, this is one thing I do blame Frons for as he seemed to view himself as the overall EP on all shows). It's interesting that GH, until the early 70s (I think?) used a piano for score, instead of an organ. I know the P&G soaps largely used organs till fairly late (1973 or so?), and I think the other major ABC soaps that came after AMC (from Dark Shadows to AMC) never used organ or piano but had scored, pre recorded cues. I also kinda wonder why GH was done from Hollywood, when soaps back then were almost always done from New york (although not exclusively, I know a few others filmed from LA pre GH and Days).

While I agree that GH probably is the second most important TV soap, for the reasons you say but also of course for Gloria Monty changing the genre to a more filmic/primetime feel in terms of shorter scenes, more cross editing (ie a short scene with one character, then with another, then back to the earlier character--something I find OLTL does a bit too much of now), and I know this may show my AMC biase, but in 70s soap books, AMC usually egts the credit (or, as many in the soap press in the 70s didn't seem to approve of AMC, discredit) for really putting a lot of the focus on youth. Y&R of course did the same, and added the element of Hollywood glamour, in terms of aesthetics, but also because they were one of the first soaps to cast actors as much on physical beauty as on acting talent, something all the soaps eventually took up on to some degree.

LOL! I always just assumed that that story was unpopular for whatever reason. How long was he on the show? (Ahh the 70s when people would still sign their name with a Ms...)

I'm just catching up on this thread, but fascinating stuff--especially about FRFP airing at different times and not in all markets. Also about how much control Silverman apparently had (I know he did a lot with soaps, but I still always think of him as the head of, I believe, ABC Daytime in the late 60s, or maybe it was CBS, who brought Scooby Doo largely into fruition lol) "Where FRFP wasn't at for most its short run was under Fred Silverman's domain. The network president usually "directs story lines, but since he was responsible for the whole network (having taken charge after the 1978 fall line-up was set), he didn't even get around to daytime until the end of August when the soap was cancelled anyway."" So even back then network heads often had story say?

Old thread I know, but rewatching slots of AMC from 96-97 during Broderick's last tenure, the music is CONSTANT, and ver electronic. I actually find it very annoying, though I didn't I don't think at the time. It's MUCH more restrained in comparison now.

Was that when Schnessel (sp? lol what a name) was writing solo? It seemed like for the most part under Rauch, Peggy O'Shea kept things in check (I believe she wrote another soap after, but can't remember what), and had a great mix of camp and classic soap opera, even if the class and ethnicity issues slipped away, but once she left (quit? fired?) Rauch's impulses got the better of him. And then of course there was his awful final year where he seemed to try to bring the show back to its basics, with this time unintentional camp. *edit* No i guess it WAS the 1990 DePriest/Rauch era

No, I'm pretty sure I didn't put it up--and if I had, so what, it's fascinating stuff (at least to me) and is interesting to re-read. I looked through my books and found in All My Afternoons a nearly exaactly the same formatted Day in Another World piece, but haven't found an AMC one, so I'm not sure where I've seen it before.

Interesting, I'm certain that article was reprinted (or first printed) verbatim in one of the 1970s soap opera books I have... Will have to check.

I think it was when Sam Hall and Peggy O'Shea were co-headwriting, right before Paul Rauch came on. Funny, as I usually credit all the fantasy camp stuff to him (though Peggy O'Shea wrote the better early stuff). But I could be wrong and it was when Rauch did come on? Obviously it was an attempt to go with the GH sci fi style at the time.

That was before Ivan got the mechanical hand and placed a mind control chip in Larry's mind, right?

A facebook friend runs a blog, Deep Dish which is mainly devoted to his obsessions--which tend to be either gay or camp related (though he'd probably hate if I said that). Anyway he's started a countdown of the 150 Greatest Moments on AMC, according to him. There are some great clips--including one brief interview with Larry Keith I'd never seen before (it's from 1976 and seems to be from the same series when the CBC interviewed Agnes nixon which is online as well--I know 76 was when the CBC picked up the show, and it makes me woner if there are more interviews they did to promote it)--in the first 25, posted today. The link is here: http://marcharshbarg...10ed8f04ac43703 WARNING the site is not really work safe. It has male nudity--nothing frontal or hardcore, but a lot of bums and suggestive stuff.

Did anyone see him on Conan? Very charming interview, but they showed a clip of one of his very first acting jobs back when Baywatch filmed on his island in Hawaii. Hysterical stuff.

I knew OLTL never really hit big highs till the end of the 70s, but am kinda surprised not to see it in some of those top 10s.

Agreed completely. And yes, that's why I was shocked too-it obviously was a pet project of his, so he must really have found it hard work to leave. (I'm sure some people find this sweet irony after he fired all those writers last year, etc). At least the original comic book writer is still on board, even though of course the second half of season 1 was largely stuff not in the comics...

Yeah I know he prob needs a break, but I was shocked that he freely admitted, particularly knowing some of his crazy fans, that he wasn't starting the new book till January. I just started book three, and am really enjoying it. Both my brother and a friend (who are both reading book five now as well) have said that the odd numbered books tend have so far been better than the even ones - of course I know many were disappointed by the characters focused on in bookj four (which I've been warned is a bit of a chore to get though), which was caused when he decided to seperate the intended book 4. Still, am loving the books, and the third one already has me more interested than parts of Clash of Kings. It does sound like the intention with the series is eventually to not be quite as faithful to the books. With Martin's involvement, thaqt's not necesarily a bad thing, but could cause problems (partly too as one thing the series has been praised so heavily for is how faithful they've managed to be). I admit I have pretty mixed feelings about that too, though if book three might take ove rtwo seasons to tell, the series would have to LONG to get to the conclusion.

Interesting, in the clip just before that they actually show a "racy" scene from 96, the flop US remake of the hit Australian soap/comedy which was known for nudity and its sexual frankness. I didn't think I'd ever see anything from the US remake 9which added a laugh track and apparently wasn't nearly as graphic...)

Interesting they list Nixon as a writer, maybe they just mean creator? I'm pretty sure she was gone by 73-74...Interesting they say Doris has been at OLTL for 8 years, so basically from the start, but also credit her at AMC...

Becka was such a non character to me, I was surprised how much I liked her on Mad Men.

It sounds like some elementys of Book three will be handled in Season 2 (at least that's what the Ent Weekly interview implied). I'm a bit worried Martin won't finish it in 7 books, he admits in another interview that that could all change.,.. (he also commented on how worried he was about how to film the battle in Book 2 as they can't just cut it as they did the battle in book 1, but would never have the budget to film it as written.

So Frank Darabont went to the panel, but now is leaviung? Hrmm http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/walking-dead-shocker-frank-darabont-steps-down-as-showrunner/

I slightly remember Howarth on it, but never had any idea he was meant to be a fairly major addition. That said, whatever one thinks about the actual actors, the idea to bring back students and Alden U (Addie Walsh's idea I take it) was a very smart one, i think. I kinda remember Staige too but again just barely. But my memories are a bit muddled, I know Cooper's secret was sexual abuse but can't even remember who had abused him... And then Steffi came fairly soona fter. GREAT interview with Cowles. Had no idea all hsi theatre background or the Baranski connection... And yeah, I'd never even heard of any Loving fan events. I remember back at the time I started regularly buying SODs (which I swear I saved but have been unable to find), and was always so annoyed at how little, often nothing, there would be about Loving.

Interesting that Right remained on NBC when GL had moved to CBS. I have some Right episodes with the Skippy story, and of course there's a ton of GL from this era--the shooting of Ted by Meta after the camping trip with him ends disastrously is actually super intense. It's interesting that Bert started off seemign to be trouble.

Great, I'm a big fan of several of those actors. Ugh can't handle having to wait... As for Sansa, I get what Cheap means, but I really think she's largely a victim of circumstance (and her own foolish naivity). Even when she said that to her Nanny, it's more a snotty teen acting out. I'd like to think I was never like that, but I know a lot of people who were (to an extent) as teens and grew out of it. She's a girl in over her head, and she quickly realizes that in quite a shocking way. But even early on with the direwolf situation, she obviously had regret about it even if she didn't own up to what she should have. I would have a lot lot less sympathy for her if she was an adult, but... (The direwolf situation was such foreshadowing of what was to come for her...)

Well exactly (though even in All Her Children Agnes says she regrets she hasn't given them much story and, this was 1975, talks about the big story she finally has set up for them). But to complain about it too when, at the time, only OLTL had really done such stories at all - an Agnes soap - is beyond petty. The thing with jonathan killing Edmund is he didn't even have any connection to Edmund unlike the others he threatened, but I seem to remember it was accidental. Or something. Carl, thanks for the Crack article - I can't imagine SOD asking an actor today if they'd ever snorted cocaine before... (or even many actors doing so much research)