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I think it was when Sam Hall and Peggy O'Shea were co-headwriting, right before Paul Rauch came on. Funny, as I usually credit all the fantasy camp stuff to him (though Peggy O'Shea wrote the better early stuff). But I could be wrong and it was when Rauch did come on? Obviously it was an attempt to go with the GH sci fi style at the time.

That was before Ivan got the mechanical hand and placed a mind control chip in Larry's mind, right?

A facebook friend runs a blog, Deep Dish which is mainly devoted to his obsessions--which tend to be either gay or camp related (though he'd probably hate if I said that). Anyway he's started a countdown of the 150 Greatest Moments on AMC, according to him. There are some great clips--including one brief interview with Larry Keith I'd never seen before (it's from 1976 and seems to be from the same series when the CBC interviewed Agnes nixon which is online as well--I know 76 was when the CBC picked up the show, and it makes me woner if there are more interviews they did to promote it)--in the first 25, posted today. The link is here: http://marcharshbarg...10ed8f04ac43703 WARNING the site is not really work safe. It has male nudity--nothing frontal or hardcore, but a lot of bums and suggestive stuff.

Did anyone see him on Conan? Very charming interview, but they showed a clip of one of his very first acting jobs back when Baywatch filmed on his island in Hawaii. Hysterical stuff.

I knew OLTL never really hit big highs till the end of the 70s, but am kinda surprised not to see it in some of those top 10s.

Agreed completely. And yes, that's why I was shocked too-it obviously was a pet project of his, so he must really have found it hard work to leave. (I'm sure some people find this sweet irony after he fired all those writers last year, etc). At least the original comic book writer is still on board, even though of course the second half of season 1 was largely stuff not in the comics...

Yeah I know he prob needs a break, but I was shocked that he freely admitted, particularly knowing some of his crazy fans, that he wasn't starting the new book till January. I just started book three, and am really enjoying it. Both my brother and a friend (who are both reading book five now as well) have said that the odd numbered books tend have so far been better than the even ones - of course I know many were disappointed by the characters focused on in bookj four (which I've been warned is a bit of a chore to get though), which was caused when he decided to seperate the intended book 4. Still, am loving the books, and the third one already has me more interested than parts of Clash of Kings. It does sound like the intention with the series is eventually to not be quite as faithful to the books. With Martin's involvement, thaqt's not necesarily a bad thing, but could cause problems (partly too as one thing the series has been praised so heavily for is how faithful they've managed to be). I admit I have pretty mixed feelings about that too, though if book three might take ove rtwo seasons to tell, the series would have to LONG to get to the conclusion.

Interesting, in the clip just before that they actually show a "racy" scene from 96, the flop US remake of the hit Australian soap/comedy which was known for nudity and its sexual frankness. I didn't think I'd ever see anything from the US remake 9which added a laugh track and apparently wasn't nearly as graphic...)

Interesting they list Nixon as a writer, maybe they just mean creator? I'm pretty sure she was gone by 73-74...Interesting they say Doris has been at OLTL for 8 years, so basically from the start, but also credit her at AMC...

Becka was such a non character to me, I was surprised how much I liked her on Mad Men.

It sounds like some elementys of Book three will be handled in Season 2 (at least that's what the Ent Weekly interview implied). I'm a bit worried Martin won't finish it in 7 books, he admits in another interview that that could all change.,.. (he also commented on how worried he was about how to film the battle in Book 2 as they can't just cut it as they did the battle in book 1, but would never have the budget to film it as written.

So Frank Darabont went to the panel, but now is leaviung? Hrmm http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/walking-dead-shocker-frank-darabont-steps-down-as-showrunner/

I slightly remember Howarth on it, but never had any idea he was meant to be a fairly major addition. That said, whatever one thinks about the actual actors, the idea to bring back students and Alden U (Addie Walsh's idea I take it) was a very smart one, i think. I kinda remember Staige too but again just barely. But my memories are a bit muddled, I know Cooper's secret was sexual abuse but can't even remember who had abused him... And then Steffi came fairly soona fter. GREAT interview with Cowles. Had no idea all hsi theatre background or the Baranski connection... And yeah, I'd never even heard of any Loving fan events. I remember back at the time I started regularly buying SODs (which I swear I saved but have been unable to find), and was always so annoyed at how little, often nothing, there would be about Loving.

Interesting that Right remained on NBC when GL had moved to CBS. I have some Right episodes with the Skippy story, and of course there's a ton of GL from this era--the shooting of Ted by Meta after the camping trip with him ends disastrously is actually super intense. It's interesting that Bert started off seemign to be trouble.

Great, I'm a big fan of several of those actors. Ugh can't handle having to wait... As for Sansa, I get what Cheap means, but I really think she's largely a victim of circumstance (and her own foolish naivity). Even when she said that to her Nanny, it's more a snotty teen acting out. I'd like to think I was never like that, but I know a lot of people who were (to an extent) as teens and grew out of it. She's a girl in over her head, and she quickly realizes that in quite a shocking way. But even early on with the direwolf situation, she obviously had regret about it even if she didn't own up to what she should have. I would have a lot lot less sympathy for her if she was an adult, but... (The direwolf situation was such foreshadowing of what was to come for her...)

Well exactly (though even in All Her Children Agnes says she regrets she hasn't given them much story and, this was 1975, talks about the big story she finally has set up for them). But to complain about it too when, at the time, only OLTL had really done such stories at all - an Agnes soap - is beyond petty. The thing with jonathan killing Edmund is he didn't even have any connection to Edmund unlike the others he threatened, but I seem to remember it was accidental. Or something. Carl, thanks for the Crack article - I can't imagine SOD asking an actor today if they'd ever snorted cocaine before... (or even many actors doing so much research)

Interesting, because in the original filmed pilot, Daenerys Targaryen was played by Tamzin Merchant who was Queen Catherine Howard in The Tudors. The pilot also had, as Cat, Jennifer Ehle - most famous for starring as the lead in the classic mid 90s BBC Pride and Prejudice. She still looks a bit too yougn and, well, happy for the role - I can't imagine either role played by anyone but who we have now, but it'd be interesting to see.

I don't think she deserves it at all. Well, ok maybe a little bit. Yes she came off as a spoiled brat often enough, but she obviously never set out to be cruel to anyone, she comes off as hopelessly naive (even later on when she falls into Cercei's game so easily), and easily glamourised. But she's also a silly, young, teenaged girl (I believe she's meant to be 14?) Then again, I've been told I tend to be too sympathetic to people who sometimes don't deserve it, so *shrug* Anyway, this weekend I finally watched the final two episodes. I had been keeping up to date, but missed ep 9 due to a vacation, and on that vacation picked up at the airport the novel, and was reading that. By the time I got to roughly where ep 8 ended, I decided I should watch the last two episodes before finishing the book, so finally got caught up. Anyway terrific stuff. (My older brother is quite annoyed with my extreme love for Thrones - he's been trying, with no luck, to get me to read the books for the past ten years or so). Comparing the novel, I think Benioff and Weiss did a superb job of adaptation; knowing what to cut, what to combine or re-arrange, and what to focus on and keep. The tone is spot on. A few things have become clearer to me due to the novel (though the novel's long appendix with some history of the world, family trees, etc, is both a help and almost makes me more confused...) I do think some things in the novel change perspective--if Sansa's best friend had been kept in the TV show I think she'd come off a bit more sympathetic, for example, but there are already so many characters, that the early TV episodes are kinda intimidating until you have a grasp on who's who, so to add non essential ones wouldn't be wise). I admit, I wasn't at first keen with Benioff and Weiss as showrunners. I knew a lot about the series already from my brother and was looking forward to it, but the screenwriters of that historical mess of a film, Troy, hardly seemed a good match, but I stand corrected. My one complaint is, as Juliajms pointed out I believe, the several gratuitous sexploitation scenes. Maybe it would bother me less if (that one, fairly tame gay scene aside), the nudity seemed more balanced between men and women, but... I have no objection to graphic sex and nudity, if anything the opposite, but at the same time this isn't True Blood which relishes its pulpiness so that feels less out of place. The one scene that stood out the most this way for me was one midway through where Littlefinger instructs two whores on how to pleasure a man and then gets them to demonstrate. This scene isn't in the book *whatsoever*, and kinda screams out to me "Well this is HBO, and we do wanna secure a young male demographic, so..." Granted, the scene did have one dramatic purpose, it led to Littlefinger's monologue about how he lost Cat to Ned's brother, which is the kind of exposition that's very hard to deal with in a tv show, but very easy to deal with in the narration of a novel, but still it left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Someone commented about not liking the George RR Martin episode (8). That was the last one I saw before starting the novel, but I thought it was perhaps the best written out of all of them. Martin does have a background in TV writing, he worked on Beauty and the Beast and the new (1980s) Twilight Zone among others, but he said he left it when he could afford to because he hated how all of his scripts were edited and watered down by execs, he doesn't seem to think any of those pieces reflect his voice (which in the case of Beauty and the Beast, I say thank God to). Anyway, I found the actual episode to have the best dialogue, and a very clever flow of scenes. But it was also one of the subtlest one (ending on a quiet note instead of a climax, in fact), without many big huge moments, so it might depend on what you like. I will say that I actually don't mind if they can't afford huge battle scenes (the show looks so incredible gorgeous and *expensive* anyway). But that's me, I find battle scenes in movies, for the most part, beyond boring. Unless there are clmactic fights between two characters I care about and know, or something, big war scenes leave me cold and I'd rather they just fade to black and tell us of the aftermath. Anyway it's an absolutely terrific show, and the ending leaves me with a problem - do I read Clash of Kings now, or do I wait (ugh 9 months or so?) towatch Season 2 first and read it after. The books and series, so far anyway, complement each other so well that I can't decide (not the same kind of show at all, but I haven't had this problem with True Blood, after trying the books and really not thinking much of them at all). At any rate, the last episode leaves all the characters heading in such compelling directions... (I'm glad that it looks like Arya will end up seeing Jon and that the king's bastard son is joining her - forget his name but I had actually kinda forgotten about him except I know the actor from Skins lol) Juliajms you may find this recent article about George R R Martin from the New Yorker, if you've not read it, interesting. It talks a bit about his background and about the series, but also about his absoilutely crazy fans, including the many who have turned their backs on him and see him as a betrayer for taking so long to come out with the 5th book that was just released. Absolutely ridiculous. Just Write It! A Fantasy Author and his Fans

Did Eban turn out to be as psychotic as Billy Clyde? But yes, I'm certain Agnes introduced him. I'd love to see the interview... I'm making my way through the synopsis, but slowly--I have them printed out. I do really appreciate you posting them.

Ugh, sounds like one of Agnes' definie missfires. Watching the 1987 episode posted, it really seems a lot better than the impression I got. The production values are much better than I expected, and the acting and writing definitely at least solid. I see this was by the time Ralph Ellis took over, but I guess Agnes had left sometime that same year, so many of the characters could have been her creation.

I *believe* they kinda dropped the story, didn't they? He didn't last long anyway...

He's briefly in that great 1985 episode online

What exactly was the Dolly story and what year?

What year was this?

I've been lax about checking this thread, and just realized Saynotoursoap put up a 1987 episode on Youtube! Thanks so much!