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Some people just wait to jump on my posts. LMAO. Good to know I can always count on being "corrected."

I'm white, but honestly, I cringe when I hear a white person say "I don't see color." I just think it's clueless at best and ignorant at worst. I hope they never have Johnny say something like that.

LOL Your posts never entered my mind, so you might want to pull back on the self-flattery. I fully explained my feelings about the first 3 days of the memorial and why the 4th and final day was so special. Nothing you said had anything to do with my comments.

Cannot tell you how much I agree with you about Ryan Carnes. It's a shame that the Emmys never reward performances like his, instead choosing actors who (over)emote. Carnes' realness brought me to tears.

Uh...I think I already addressed how tough I was on the first 3 days of the memorial and how good day 4 was. Embarrassed? As I just stated, I don't take back anything I said. Our complaints were valid, and an exceptional episode doesn't erase those problems.

Would love to see Ryan Carnes back. His presence during these episodes meant so much. Carnes is such an understated actor, and one who exudes empathy and authenticity. That Champ scene doesn't work without him. Kudos also to Brighton Hertford. Bringing her back for these episodes was genius, but let's not forget that she's also an incredibly strong actress, and that's what made the gamble work. I was very hard on the first 3 days of this memorial, and I don't back away from what I said, but this 4th day was very special. I did cringe at the quick-as-anything trip to and from Amsterdam where they found Bobbie's contacts in a day -- that line from Maxie that it took place over days didn't work for me -- but that's minor compared to all else that went on.

Is there a reason Edward And Lila's photos are 3x the size of everyone else's? I understand why Steve Hardy's pic is bigger, but the Quartermaines? Were their money machinations at the hospital so huge to merit that attention? And this might sound macabre, but what happens when someone not hospital-related at all dies? If something happens to Maurice Benard, does his photo go up on the wall because he walked the halls of General Hospital all the time?

And if flashbacks are that expensive, why do we get so many of them on Y&R? No one can tell me that the budget there is any greater than GH's.

The actors strike had nothing to do with soap actors. The writers strike didn't eliminate the countless other GH employees who could have worked on this memorial.

Really bold to tell someone what the definition of a soap opera is. Look, I have no problem with Bobbie's death creating new story. I do have a problem with her memorial being secondary to that new story. GH could have honored Zeman properly while also introducing new story, and that didn't happen. I had such high hopes that GH would do this right, especially since the Sonya Eddy/Epiphany tribute was so powerful and emotional. This is so far below acceptable that I don't know what to say.

With all due respect, none of this is about ATWT or the Helen Wagner tribute. If that was so terrible, why use it as a bar that the JZ tribute needed to clear? The fact is that GH has blown this Bobbie tribute. They had 8 months to prepare for this, and it feels like they did nothing for 7 of those months. You cried because you miss Jaclyn Zeman -- not because of what was on the screen. We should go to You Tube if we want clips of Bobbie? Huh??? Sorry, I have a completely different idea of what a tribute/memorial should be than you do. It's not "Create a new storyline for the dead woman's daughter." Yes, the grief from Genie, Jane, and Lynn felt palpable. I mentioned that before: we felt the sadness of REAL people who loved a REAL human being. The writing didn't do it.

I hope tomorrow is better, because that was not good. Yes, the funeral and speeches were touching, but as others have said, it was over before it started. We got to see a lot of cast members and feel their grief, but then they disappeared in the entire last half of the hour. Ryan Carnes was a strong presence, but given too little to do. Flashbacks? We got two of them -- and Bobbie spoke in only one. They totaled under one minute of screen time. And this whole trafficking story? Others may think it's a great way to honor Bobbie/Jaclyn Zeman, but it just pisses me off, because they'd never give JZ a story like this if she were still around. GH and Frank Valentini ignored her for years, so pretending this honors her is a crock. I did tear up, but only because I imagined the sadness of the real actors (Genie, Kin, Laura, Kristina) who knew and miss Jaclyn Zeman, not because of the memorial writers have given her.

Eric in his hospital bed to EJ: "Hang on to Luna." Seriously? LOL What sad writing.

I don't think Eileen Davidson ever announced her "retirement." Does she call some shots on her contract? Yeah, and I'm fine with it. That's what superstars are able to do. Y&R knows how valuable she is. Also, I'm enjoying all the whining on X about Victor calling Nikki "my baby" over and over. I've got to think Eric Braeden knows exactly how many people he's irritating and is having fun with it.

You're right, of course. But the thing is, they can't fix it once it's done and over. If we get those clips in the next couple episodes, I'll revise my criticism. Even if they do, though, I think 2 days of just talking about Bobbie is excessive.

OK, Donna, but you just made my point that this isn't working as is. The clips are essential. Without them, we're left with people visiting Carly. They tell her they're sorry, they start to walk away, and she calls them back. Why? To TALK. It's not working. Jaclyn Zeman died 8 MONTHS AGO. You mean in all that time GH couldn't reprioritize enough to afford clips of Bobbie Spencer?

Completely agree about Brian Gaskill. I've only seen his day one appearance, but I thought he was excellent. It felt like he really knew Nikki and that he was really comfortable onscreen. I imagined the script he was given -- and how he turned that dialogue into something special of his own. Really good stuff.

I can't disagree with your point about Josh Griffith. The steps weren't taken, the beats weren't played. Still -- and it pains me to say it because I love Sharon Case so much -- I don't think Sharon gave anything to that storyline. Consider what you said about Eileen in her current story. No one can accuse her of not giving her all in every scene, regardless of the problems with the writing, the storyline direction, or TSJ.

These episodes with characters talking about Bobbie -- the complete opposite of "Show, Don't Tell" -- could not be more annoying and infuriating. Talking about Bobbie for a week instead of during a 2-day memorial does NOT make it a better celebration and remembrance of Jaclyn Zeman. This is just a reminder that FOR YEARS this effing show has ignored Bobbie and kept her off canvas.

She's not. Eileen Davidson is present in every scene she's in, even if she's there only as a talk-to. She elevates every other actor in her scenes. And no, she never phones it in. Instead, if she doesn't like Ashley's direction or needs a break, she leaves the show. She doesn't float through scenes, thinking of pizza.

I'm with you. I never get enough Eileen Davidson. She brings something to EVERY scene she's in and is one of daytime's greatest actors.

Honestly, I do not care if Josh Morrow and Sharon Case dread a renewal of their relationship. Have their storylines been that good WITHOUT each other? Nick's multiple pairings have all been meh or failures. I'd say the same about Sharon's. Let's not pretend her marriage to Rey was a barn burner. I still say the dream episode was a way to extricate Sharon from Chance without "hurting" any character. Chance and Summer don't cheat on Sharon and get called bad guys. Sharon isn't seen as the aggrieved older woman who can't keep a guy. One episode and it's all over. I'll repeat: I love Sharon Case to death, but she was NOT invested in the Chance pairing. She never gave it her all -- and that came across on the screen.

Yeah, I'm tired of it, too. It was fine the first couple times, but now it's absurd. Why does RJ even listen to this? Why not just leave the room? And don't get me started on the absurdity of EITHER of these two being responsible for the entire damn collection.

Did GH ever hear of "Show, Don't Tell"? If we're getting Bobbie/Jaclyn Zeman clips later this week, I won't be as pressed about this, but hearing people talk about Bobbie endlessly while not seeing her in clips is...a choice. And when Felicia and Maxie visited Barbara Jean's grave, why did the 30-year old grave marker look like it was just 3 days old?

Like the doors scene or not, its placement in the special was problematic. You're celebrating 60 years of GH and THIS is what you leave your audience with??? As if Jesus is returning??? The Genie Francis toast should have ended the special.