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I HATED him on GL...the snarling, the flared nostrils, the affected acting...he only worked as a pr*ck. I did love him on Edge, though only when he was playing fake bad Sky...maybe after his car crash something changed but he seemed so unpleasant after that. But I did think he did a good job as the crazy doctor who invented the aging serum on ATWT. He was filmed drunk or whatever, swinging a sword out a hotel room and it was on Access Hollywood or something.

Apparently Malloy was a bit of diva himself, the guy who played Rusty commented on one of the Locher Rooms that when he first joined the show Malloy came up and said, "I'm the (leading man, heart throb, whatever) here so don't go p*ssing on my leg" which was weird as they were totally different characters...and the Roxie actress chimed in "Oh..Larkin Malloy" like she had experiences with him (which is weird as I thought she was stoned most of the time) and Zimmer even rolled her eyes. The Raven actress responded to me after I said casually that he was gay (I thought everyone knew) that "Oh, no..and I should KNOW" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) so Larkin, was a very, interesting person.

I am actually shocked Melanie Smith was cast and written for so well. She was just too damn "sexy" for Marland's usual female character...(he usually cast less then "TV sexy" women, and had the men falling all over them..and his characters were really too uptight to ever have the kind...libido that MS' Emily had...) They really should have spent their money on a bigger studio space and forgot the shake cams. The old soaps used to have their sets up in a row an the camera on a track that moved from one to another...with the tech they had they could have had something like this. As it was they made bizzare choices with the sets...(the Spaulding den got a weird balcony with a window and a cheap ass spiral staircase...the Bauer kitchen, when seen had the living room fire place moved into it..sometimes.) the only sets I thought looked good were Company and the Towers sets. Remember the Spaulding press conference, in a baseball field.. people sitting on the side of a road having a picnic? Weirdo Jeffery having a phone conversation on a park bench that started to be shot from across the street, and then with a shakey cam that cut between the back of his head and front..leaving me to think he was being filmed by a psycho who was going to off him (don't tease me like that Wheeler/Kreizman...) But the worst was the closet they used for a bad convenience store that they had Alex sitting in saying she liked the hot dogs!!! Bev was cackling in Heaven "The things that new girl has to put up with!"

And..he wasn't ORANGE!!!!

I loved this line!

It too bad during the Dobsons time they had Shea faked his death and his kids...(would have to come up with a semi plausible explanation on how) and came back years later. He arranges for a car crash with Lisa so she finds the teen age Chuckie..Lisa, not knowing it is her own kid, takes him under her wing and has him move in with her, to silently torture her (he was raised to hate her..) and meanwhile begins to romance Betsy (all part of Sheas plan to torture the Ellen and her family) but he starts to actually fall for her much to his father's dismay. Meanwhile, Shea in disguise begins to romance Kim (everyone in town wants to know who Kim's mystery man is) and Bob is wary of this guy. Joyce finds out who he really is and blackmails him and they are a match made in hell for everyone in town. The end result is that Lisa would find out who was who and then to actually save herself and Kim (Bob saves Kim, and as he goes back to get Lisa hears a gunshot) does finally shoot and kill Shea. A lot of hand waving would have to go into this, but it would save us from Nick, Steve and Miranda and bring back a character who would have a complicated relationship with Lisa, Bob and Kim going forward. I agree and think Wert was sexy in the role. I think that Marland did just not write good villains (they were all cartoons if they were actual villains like James and Toni) and just made his characters (as I said time and time again) sometimes too politely boring...Sabrina should have been a slut who finds out she actaully has rich parents but still resents them, and Scott should have been a selfish man ho who eventually slightly reforms like his mama. But instead we get very very plain and dull Sabrina and a whiny Scott.

They had given that storyline to Nick...who knew what a scum Steve was..but they made Nick so obnoxious and overbearing to prop Steve up as the misunderstood hero, that it didn't work. Which leads me to a question, when did soaps stop writing multifaceted characters who had good and bad qualities, and started gearing the writing towards characters who they wanted to, or had become fan favorites. Lisa as a bad girl had motivation and people like Ellen and Penny rightfully were not loving her, and it was okay and more realistic. Steve could have been trying to change but still had bad qualities and Nick and Kim could have rightfully been wary of him, without slanting the writing so much!

They did do a short plot where Mary and Joyce are arguing, and Mary falls down the stairs and everyone is sure Joyce did it on purpose and pushed her. Mary woke up and told everyone what happened but then she went off someplace and got hit by a car and went into another coma..poor Mary, but I still don't know how anyone knew she actually was in a coma..she was so boring.

I always wanted a bit more accuracy on business life. Sometimes Spaulding is a privately held corporation and sometimes it isn't. Sometimes the Chamberlains still own part of it and sometimes they don't. Alex and Alan go around appointing people to Vice Presidencies with no input from the board or anyone else...(and does anyone but a VP work at Spaulding?) The worst was the board appointing Harley as CEO..they investors would be in an uproar and they would be charged with malfeasance but Kreizman thought it was cute to put his fave female character there and had the back pack scene and..that was it. Dinah takes Spaulding from the family..how???? The book "Unscripted" which is about Sumner Restone and the fight for his empire (which also prominatley features our own George Pilgrim, who played J..No Dot Chamberlin and seems exactly as obnoxious as the character he played..) had all the juicy backstabbing and the corporate intrigue was very interesting as well.

Yes...and why put her on the back burner when there was so much going on that she could disapprove of...she should have always been the person who had a thing about James and knew he was bad when he was still hiding it...( A Swedish prince is better then our Tom??) and Joyce was on the loose, and greasy Steve, and loudmouth Margo...John Dixon's daughter of all things getting with Tom??? She was one of my Mom's faves and she quit watching when they put her on the back burner and I now know why, my Mom was the type that you stayed at home and took care of your house and kids, but she never backed down or let my Dad walk over her and she ALWAYS had opinions on what was right and wrong, but was always there if someone needed anything and she thought her kids were the world. So Irna really did have a whole generation in mind when writing for Nancy and it is sad that was lost during the Dobsons time. I saw in interview with Wagner who talks about Nancy being too involved in her kids life and being at a friends house who invited another friend who wanted to have coffee with Nancy Hughes and Wagner having to tell her in her haughty Nancy voice, "I am NOT the same!" Uh, yea, Helen you kinda are! She had this boring doctor boyfriend who she actually SLEPT with! I can imagine what Nancy would have said about that? "Really dear, you aren't Lisa!" That would have been the perfect time for a widowed Don to come back with that kid and for he and Ellen to be invovled again. I would have had Lisa chasing him (and pulling out some of her old tricks.), and Nancy being very concerned that Ellen is not getting back with David, and the possiblity that her golden girl Lisa would be back in the family.

Thanks! The GL writers were never very coherent when writing business deals (one could look up how corporations work!) I just saw an episode when Alan is hiding out in Andora or whatever it is when CB first came back (the sets and clothing were hideous, Kobe really wants very good, Alan is in a "pink" sweater and Baron Von Halkind is dressed like Dracula...) and he buys the radio station as he wants everyone in town to "Dance to his tune!" so I thought that was the start of his media dominance in SF and the intro of WSPR.

Agreed...I was getting excited..but all we got was...Harley as CEO?? Remember Josh was going to get involved to take down Alan..and he and Seb had this weird little scene where Seb seemed to be flirting with Josh and Josh was liking it...who knew RN had more chemistry with the Seb actor then he did with the Cassie recast!.

Yes, I love how even during Marland and after Helen gave a look that belied Nancy's real thoughts. I think the Dob had problems switching from writing Bert Bauer to Nancy Hughes (even though Marland essentially made Nancy as less outgoing warm Bert.) Bert had fire but she had given up her controlling ways by then. I also think they just were annoyed being at ATWT, did not like the firm structure the show and half assed it most of the time until their second tenure where they got to try out their Santa Barbara stuff( more campy comedy, fantasy etc.) I do love that if you ever read Datalounge "Midwestern" posts someone there poses at Helen Wagner "vinegary" personality as she lambasts Colleen Zenk and the rest of the "hussies" who ran around the studio on her show..so a little bit of judgemental Nancy Hughes lives on.

Yes, being married to Fletcher and having a late in life pregnancy and sporting a baby bump, or being a depressed background character would not have been my choices for Holly. That would have been a good story...if he was wealthy, in the retro written world post Long...he would have knon Brandon, which means he would have been screwed over by Brandon, so Holly finds some old papers and blackmails Alan for her rightful shares...and Alan is turned on as hell.

It was when she came back for Bob and Kim's wedding..I think Johnny D walked in as all the Hughes (minus Chris) were in Bob's living room and John walks in (why I have no idea) and gives some of his usual snark and Nancy haughtily says, "Well, hello Dr. Dixon, I see nothing has changed about you, except the mustache!" I think a haughty vinegary Nancy (which seems to come from Wagner's real life personality) would be fun to write for.

I can't believe the Dobson's had so much trouble writing for her...a domineering woman dealing with aging and not ever wanting to be a sweet grandmother. They tried a bit with Nancy breaking bad on Joyce to her bio kid...and when they brought her back pre Marland she was back to being in charge..insulting John's mustache and looking down at Bob moving into Kim's house...rubbing up against Kim...then Marland came and she was just a dull sweet gram.

There is a GREAT monologue during the JFP/Curlee years where Holly talks about if I remember correctly, an alien landing and she has to explain herself...(I kid you not and it worked) and she refers to herself as a "rich little daddy's girl" so someone remembered. She had enough cake to buy the Journal and into WSPR..(I never knew who the hell owned that, it was Alan, then Roger and Holly? Then Dinah????) I think post Rauch they forgot about that but I always wanted Holly to go toe to toe with the Spauldings, MG has that great Bev way with a sarcastic one liner (with irony thrown in.) They all think it Rog gobbling up stock but it turns out to be Holly...(and she and RR had great chemistry in that "one" little scene when he was giving her stock to have the Journal...RR to his credit acted a bit turned on by MG in that scene and who the hell wouldnt be?)

I loved the Nancy and Chris scene..they are not as sugar sweet and most soap older tentpoles..Nancy is being a nag, Chris was telling her to keep out of it and they didn't have a big fight..they just went on with their day, like a real couple. I love that we see what seems to be part of the Steward living room set which survived to the end (redone many times over) and yes, the foreshadowing of Joyce. I just hate that later retrospectives left out characters like Grandpa Hughes and Papa Bauer. Nancy was a real pistol..I wish they kept her that way!

He was TERRIBLE as AM. I think as a more Bauerish AM he could have worked...as you said, he was so green, I remember his first scenes and Zimmer, who, despite her scenery chewing, is always a pro, almost looking at him totally lost like, "Im trying to help you kid but youre giving me nothing." I think later on if they wrote him more as being pulled between his Bauer and Spaulding side it could have worked but folling Hearsts coroporate AM it didnt.

That would have been good and blown JFP's b.s. about having to kill her to shake up the canvas, to hell. Mo torn between her best friend and her niece? Mo standing up to Roger, while at the same time understanding that this is his grandkid...Roger and Mo growing closer because of Peter while Ed has to stand aside and pout? Shows that it was all just b.s. to free up money for Deas. I think Evans could be believed to be raised a Bauer by a single mom..I never believed Hearst was a Bauer...he would have actually made a good son of Rita and Alan's. Its funny, I see Hearst at his age now, as the perfect Alan recast.

Wow, this was my early childhood, I remember watching Dick Van Dyke and the Lucy Show as a kid while my Mom cleaned..(a gene I didn't get...) The excuse for not syndicating Here's Lucy was that it would hurt the other shows, and that might have been Lucy's viewpoint, I don't think she ever really comprehended how back that show stank. I think other people knew it would flop and it did, it was never successful in syndication and I think CBS only ran it in daytime for a short time.

That's true..that scene when JC picks Reva up and just throws her...and Zimmer took it like a champ..which really added to Reva's allure. Some of Reva's best relationships were with guy friends...Fletcher, Phillip, Johnny. Rauch tossed all that out so that it was all men had to be IN LOVE with the goddess, and that lost a great part of her character that made her rootable. Reva the middle aged sex goddess was not. Terrible..we really are loosing so many people from our high school, college and young adulthood form the soaps.

Ha..I never for a moment believed Eddie in a male/female relationship, and I don't think DAM did it either, he was just so purposeful in making Eddie seem ambigous at best. He and Joan/Alex made sense as, really, Eddie was worshiping her divaness and she would like some good looking arm candy who made her laugh. And as long as India stayed FAR away from San Crud, a Eddie/India relationship of convenience and power would be great...and I do wish they had explored a storyline where India finally finds out that the only way she could find true love (besides Phill-lippppeeee) would be with a woman..(nothing could have been worse then her chasing after Simon....) He usually didn't treat any of those women well though.. Zimmer just liked Rauchie as he threw the show to her...(I can't blame her) and he thought of her as a marque name for some reason and true..Kimmer is more of a kind of guy-gal...even without the flirting, I am sure she can drop the fbomb with the best of them, liked her booze, laughs and a ribald sense of humor (I sound like Henry Chamberline...) Tho I always wanted reports on how she and JFP got along during those 6 weeks they were working together.

Great quote from Eddie! Taggert tried to assimilate him in the canvas away from simply Rassie and Jeva side when she made him vow vengance on the "Bowas" for taking Dickie's heart. I still think it would have been interesting to have Cassie start an attraction think with a hot San Crud rebel of color...(they could even have him kidnap her at first to satisfy those Harlequin Romance fantasies of falling in love with your kidnapper...) who is out to overthrow the white bread Winslows. She begins to see the dark side of San Crud and being a pretty princess. That would have sent the Rassie's SCREAMING in agony.

Bwawahaha....they practically made her that in later years..having a talk show, being a soccer mom..(lord knows what the rest of the Moms were jabering about the former amnesiac queen...) they tried to turn her into Kim Hughes!