Marissa Gallant

Ugh! Sonny Sprocket you suck! Does Mason's family ever figure out that Mason isn't Mason anymore? 

4 hours ago, Faulkner said:

When I was watching that story on YouTube, that flabbergasted me. Just inexcusable.

I agree. I know people get vacations. But excluding Sophia from that is inexcusable. 

On 5/15/2022 at 3:16 PM, j swift said:

Also, never listen to people on Facebook, it never leads to anything positive.

Except the people on Facebook who told me that my novel is wonderful and that they love it. I will continue to listen to them. In fact, I love those people.  

On 5/15/2022 at 11:37 AM, Tonksadora said:

I'll bet! Got anything to report?

So far, not much Santa Barbara. He is just a GREAT storyteller! He talks about visiting his childhood home with Elizabeth Taylor, and the woman letting them in because she was Elizabeth Taylor. He talks about crossing the Atlantic a few times, and does an amazing job describing the rough crossing through a sea storm. At one point he is talking about an amazing man he met who was a war hero. Says he admired the man, but they lost touch. Then says he(Nicholas Coster) was young and in a rush to not miss anything but missed so much. It is just packed full of really cool stories.

On 5/15/2022 at 6:44 PM, Connelly said:

Been around santa Barbara fansites for years and for what I read most people favorite years are from 1985 to 1987.

But from 1988 to 1989 Santa Barbara kinda became the Cruz and Eden hour so I think there are fans of the couple who vote 88 and 89 their favorite year because of that

 

In my case I have stopped watching after the Cruz and Eden wedding, Gina in a cult, Chip kidnaped, a randon manhunter, T.J. as Kelly's best friend........ because sorry to say but the show has become terrible. Maybe I return again but it was really painful to watch

I am slogging through 88, but I don't like it. Sonny is making me laugh, but I prefer Mason. I truly believe that Eden's rape won SB the 88 awards. It is a good story that is played well. 88 is also the first block vote. But my favorite year is 85-87. Not even going to apologize. From the point where JA wakes up from the coma. 

In 88, everyone is in a bubble. Eden was raped and her mom doesn't show up? Before that Sophia smacks Kelly for sleeping with TJ? NEVER. Sophia might slap Keith, but not her daughter. There were too many weird unexplained character changes in 88 that makes me feel like, "okay, this is a good show. Well acted. But these aren't the characters I've grown to know or love." And one more thing: Lionel vanished without a trace. Mason dies, and there isn't even a throw away line from Julia about how he can't come to the funeral? Again. No. Who are these people?

I understand that actors and actresses get vacations. I know that shows have budgets and can't pay everyone to be there for every episode. But no way does Eden get raped, and Sophia doesn't show up. And double no way would ROSA ignore that. Missing Rosa

1 hour ago, Keri said:

Who was the failed journalist? Warren?

I was wondering about that too, but I think you're right.

4 hours ago, j swift said:

Doesn't it feel odd in today's atmosphere to have a mental health story be played for yucks and giggles?

Again, where's Cain's motivation?, does he have mental health issues? is he a con? and why is he so earnest all the time, considering that he held hostage a woman in need of medical care?

I *think* they were trying for a John Hudson, but failed miserably. Cain could have been an awesome character. But they just had him yell

I really am loosing patience with 88. Cain does nothing except yell about everything. Scott always yells. Constantly angry is one note and boring to watch.

Kelly is a nimrod! She hated TJ for everything he did to Sophia, but after her miscarriage, TJ was the bestest ever! And she's all oh Snookums, you're so dreamy. Then, Kelly gets into a fist fight over him? Poor Kimberly McArthur wasn't that bad, but she was saddled with an impossible storyline. 

Sophia slapped Kelly? Again, no. 84-87 Sophia would have NEVER slapped her child. Under any circumstances. 

Sonny. We wanted Mason, not this dude.

I do admit Sonny's reactions to Gina as she explained the Capwells had me rolling. 

This show just feels off the rails to me, and not in the good way.

How could I have forgotten Peter Flint?!?!? I'm obviously slipping. If I ever say 88 is the best ever, get me help.

11 hours ago, Tonksadora said:

What I really want is to know exactly what characters Bridget & Jerome created. They did the whole show bible, yep. And, common sense says that they did all of the original cast members. Now, where I lived at the time the NBC affiliate did not show SB either the first year or later, the last year.  Infuriating, I know. But, so, I didn't get to watch that. Is the first week up on YouTube? Because I could get at the info that way, by watching & making notes.

 

No, I haven't. I will! Thnx.

I think you can find the first week. I'm going by memory but first week: Mason, Kelly, Ted, CC, Joe, Jade, Marissa Perkins, Joes Dad- can't remember his name, Rosa, Danny, Santana, Augusta, Minx, Warren and Lakin. Lionel came a few weeks later. Sophia (Dominique) a few weeks after that. Julia was a couple of months into the run. Cruz was a few weeks in. Eden came in for CCs birthday. 

It was ADORABLE when Justin Gocke won the Emmy. 

On 5/7/2022 at 5:23 PM, j swift said:

It confirms my hypothesis that 1960s Sofia was a bit more conniving.  She wanted to make sure that Channing (aka Lionel Jr, aka Brick) would one day own the keys to the kingdom. 

Meanwhile, supposed bad guy CC still kept Channing's son in the will, even after he found out that he wasn't Channing's biological father, and the son he raised had been switched at birth.  I'm just saying, justice for CC.

 

I agree about CC. He wasn't as bad as the family often made him out to be. But Brandon isn't just Channing's son. CC officially adopted him. I really do have an enormous soft spot for CC, and think he was often misunderstood. Especially in the later years. He loved his family very much and tried to protect them. It's just that his attempts were usually misguided. 

21 hours ago, j swift said:

I mean it is interesting to look back within a modern context.  Mason gave CC all kinds of crap about being a bad guy.  Meanwhile, he was a single father of five kids, in the 1970s, in Santa Barbara, with one maid, who didn't live on-site.  And, (until the Greg retcon), it seems as if CC had no significant romantic relationships the whole time that he was raising his kids.

Talk about a sacrafice

Then, Sofia comes waltzing back in costume with a fake mustache, and the kids not only universally forgive her, but they all take her side whenever she blamed CC for their marital problems.

I've always wondered if Sophia or CC thought of naming their first born Channing Jr, considering that Mason was a child at the time?  Did Pamela not like the name Channing?  It is just so odd to name your second born as a Junior.

Ooh- I know this one! CC didn't want to name Mason after himself. He didn't want to name any of them after himself. Then Sophia insisted on naming Lionel Jr. er uh CC junior Channing. 

On 5/4/2022 at 8:56 PM, Tonksadora said:

I don't remember CC being very self-reflective. Mason, yes. CC no. Of course, Mason thought too much. And, he thought specifically about CC too much. I just can't believe that Lane & Nancy dated & nobody found it out at that time. And, I think it's downright childish that Lane & Nancy broke up because of disagreements they had about what they wanted to happen to their characters!

Well, no CC is not self reflective. I just think maybe he should have been. Of course, there would have been a lot less drama if he had. 

I think there was probably more to the Lane and Nancy decline than just arguing over characters. However, people who are unhappy at work sometimes bring that home to their partners. And it's hard to escape when your partner is also in your face at work. But I wasn't there. And I'm certainly not LD or NLG's confidant. 

I'm currently reading Nicolas Coster's memoire. Such an interesting read!

On 4/29/2022 at 12:33 PM, chrisml said:

Has there been another soap with so many shifts in storylines and lack of long-term story? I've been watching the show, and it feels like every two/three months that storylines end or fizzle out and then the show starts from scratch. Certain characters stay, but there is always a turnover in cast. The show's writers & producers are unable to sustain anything for more than three months. I am thinking (as an example) of the Laura/Michael storyline. It was a major storyline for weeks and then it just sputtered to an ending of sorts. It feels like SB is full of those sorts of thing. I thought it might have been intentional at first, but it really plays like the writers and execs have no idea where they are going from month to month with the storylines. 

Not sure if this counts, but Don Craig went to mail his taxes and disappeared forever. I think several soaps dropped stories that didn't work, but most of them took more time with wll stories. SB stories were often FAST. And if you missed an episode, a story might be done forever and never referred to again. There was also a total disregard for established history. In such a short show, that was difficult. 

I definitely feel that this created a long term problem. From the beginning, the network had it's hands in it aaying We don't like this. We don't like that. Lower costs. Lower costs. Lower costs. It felt like as soon as the show found its groove, someone else decided it needed a change. I was a die hard fan at the beginning but the complete destruction of history chased me away. It wasn't my fun quippy show anymore. Toss in the fact that the Lockridges were gone, and so was I. I'm eonjoying reliving it, but I'm still dragging myself through 88 and its so very difficult to keep going.

Augusta Lockridge 

On 4/19/2022 at 1:11 PM, j swift said:

I had to look up The Most Dangerous Game to get your reference, I assume you are talking about when Cruz was stranded on the island or the prison escape with Robert and Cruz (I was thinking Isle of Dr Moreau)?  

If I remember correctly, the Isle of Dr. Moreau is the one where the crazy guy creates weird and creepy human/animal hybrids. (And maybe hunts people?) And The Most Dangerous Game is the one where crazy guy hunts people. 

18 hours ago, j swift said:

I agree, although Mason's first "death" created an interesting alliance between Julia and Tori. 

SB was so bad at spreading the story and using the whole cast that they could have easily pretaped some Mason scenes, and sprinkled them about during the summer.  Because even in the winter, there would be weeks when Julia appeared without Mason.  And, it comes down to poor planning that they couldn't write a plot for Julia that didn't involve Mason (or her falling for her guilty clients).

I had to look up The Most Dangerous Game to get your reference, I assume you are talking about when Cruz was stranded on the island or the prison escape with Robert and Cruz (I was thinking Isle of Dr Moreau)?  Did the strike delay Cruz and Eden's wedding?  Because if the WGA writers wrote the Pebble Beach wedding, they should have been kicked out of the union.

I was talking about the island. Cruz was kidnapped while trying to help Mason. He was sent to an island where the owner hunts people. So. Very. Stupid. I'm not sure if the wedding was writer's strike or not. Are you talking about the wedding and the ghosties or the falling back into time during the honeymoon? Santa Barbara might have won an Emmy for best soap in 88, but that doesn't say much for soaps in 88. I think 88 is bad. Very. Very. Bad.

On 4/12/2022 at 7:14 AM, AbcNbc247 said:

Who was writing the show during the strike?

I've tried to watch the credits, but keep missing them, so I don't know this answer.

I am kind of laughing at how they "kill off" Mason every summer to accommodate Lane's time off clause. I understand they had to, but you would think eventually Julia and company would just look at their watches and say, "Oh, Mason isn't dead. He just vanished every June."

I'm in Mid 88. Wow. I want to say, "I can't believe they're doing a Most Dangerous Game storyline." But I'm sitting here watching it happen before my very eyes. So I know it's true. I know there was a writer's strike. But they could have recruited a high schooler to do a better job than this. Yikes!

Now that I'm deeply in the TJ affair storyline, and actually watching it instead of just not watching the show anymore, I want to scream at CC and Sophia both! Good Gravy! These 2 are very stubborn! Some people think it's out of character for CC to have not thrown her out. Nope. He doesn't want this marriage to end. He just doesn't want to be the first person to say so. She doesn't either and ditto. Just bloody talk to each other!!  I swear these idjits are gonna give me a stroke! Lol

And another thing- After EVERYTHING Sophia went through to get CC back, I don't see her giving up on him this easily.

9 hours ago, Orea Mou Kiria said:

That story sure made her look pathetic in my eyes for no reason. I found TJ so sleazy and not worth a mother-daughter triangle. 

The fact that he REALLY dawrfs her bugs me. She has chemistry with almost everyone and there just isn't any with him. This storyline feels like a slap in the face because it was poorly executed, demeans a strong character, lessens a power couple, made CC look foolish too because he was constantly chasing Pamelayuck. It was in character for Sophia to turn to Lionel because they had history and chemistry. TJ is just creepy and Sophia was many things, but never dumb. She's a freaking Italian Countess! She should have been able to take out Pamelayuck fairly effortlessly. There's a reason 88 is not remembered favorably. 

So, in your opinion- does the Sophia/TJb affair destroy her character irredeemably?

I love it when CC FINALLY finds out that Sophia blew up the rig. Sophia tells TJ that she's never seen CC so angry. Really? I'm pretty sure that you have. I really think he was angrier when he came out of the coma. This is such an appalling storyline.

CC has a bizarre storyline. All of his wives cheat on him, but they all always want him back. He should start asking himself why this is.