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on the one board, katie was known as “the vagina no penis could resist.”

Considering Chris died not many years after that and Dan was off the show by the late-mid-90s, Nancy would've only been in her 70s. (I've always assumed, but maybe other people know better, that Chris and Nancy were like standard couples of the 40s and 50s...married when Nancy was probably only 18 or 19 because she would've been expected to go directly from her father's house to a husband's house and start popping out babies.) nancy was a teacher. she and chris married after she graduated from college, so you’re right, she would have been around 73 she married dan.

I just didn't know. sorry didn’t mean to be snippy. the wisconsin historical has an extensive collection of popular culture materials. anyone who’s doing serious research on soaps will spend some time in madison — a very cool town.

well, irna’s papers and p&g’ s papers are there. why not his?

doug marland’s papers are at the wisconsin historical society. in his gl longterm, nola and kelly were indeed the end game. wasn’t aware that it was the chemistry between nola and quint that changed his mind.

‘world turn’s 30th anniversary episode in 1986 (one of the best!) was structured around nancy and chris’s 50th wedding anniversary. so by the time she met dan, nancy would have been in her 80s.

had not been aware that nancy and sara had been hospital roommates, but it certainly makes sense given the story that followed. re nancy’s hysterectomy: can’t remember where (maybe this interview helen wagner interview), but i recall her saying that nancy’s hysterectomy had been performed by dr. jerry turner, played by james earl jones. jones joined the cast in early 1966. he wasn’t there long — i also recall helen saying that he left to to work on ‘the great white hope’ at the arena stage in washington, dc. re the scripts: here’s a irna’s archive at the wisconsin historical society, which includes decades of scripts irna’s papers

or as eileen fulton liked to call them — “fuckus groups.”

the recent passing of the great reminded me of something irna phillip told peter wyden’s when he profiled her in 1960 for the saturday evening post (which i know is somewhere, but can’t find it at the moment). gena rowland’s only broadway performance was in paddy chayefsky “middle of the night.” at the end, rowland’s 20ish character winds up with the older man played by edward g robinson. as i recall, irna was very unhappy. what she wanted to know was how the couple fared after the happy ending. can’t remember her exact words, but i do recall something about how would the people fit into each other’s lives. which is really the core of soap opera storytelling: the aftermath of what happens.

maybe a lame attempt at humor — or irony?

well mitch, packing the supreme court certainly worked out well for you and the republicans. honestly, the hypocrisy of some people…

it’s really a no-win situation. if biden had stayed in and trump won, the blame would also have fallen at the feet of the democrats who didn’t intervene. at least now, we have a fighting chance. she may have no calculus but winning, but she also has feelings. and i do not doubt for a second that this was, will always be a painful decision. what’s at stake is just so much larger than one person’s feelings. and, as you noted, he is already acknowledging that reality. i, too, hope their relationship recovers.

fallout from the biden/pelosi drama. gift link biden/pelosi

in total agreement with everything you said! yes, it was difficult — even painful — to watch. but i don’t think it was unfair, unkind, or in anyway diminishes our appreciation of the president. much as we love our elders, sometimes we have to take away the car keys. of course, seniors age differently — look at june squibb. and while the president was pitch perfect welcoming the russian hostages, after the debate performance, it would have been too much of a risk for him to continue. and in an ass backwards kind of way, i think the timing worked out perfectly. waiting until after the republican convention for biden to step down, left trump, et al flailing. whether planned or happenstance, it turned out to be a stroke of genius.

may have missed this. but, i don’t think that anyone’s mentioned that trudy bauer was played by helen wagner (1952-53 according to imdb).

jane house’s website

when gabby giffords was shot in 2011, reports started appearing online that she had been killed. as i recall, the report originated at npr and was picked up by virtually every mainstream media site — except for the new york times. and so i shall wait. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/06/us/kamala-harris-vp-trump-election#trump-elon-musk-interview something to look forward to…

when gabby giffords was shot in 2011, reports started appearing online that she had been killed. as i recall, the report originated at npr and was picked up by virtually every mainstream media site — except for the new york times. and so i shall wait. eta: ny times confirms @ 9:10am eta: actually, they didn’t “confirm: Tim Walz Is Said to Be Kamala Harris’s Choice for Vice President: Live Election Updates

“Donald Trump, seeking William Faulkner's endorsement.” took me a second to catch the reference. then i remembered a lit professor in college who lectured the way faulkner wrote. we’d sit there, pen in hand, waiting in frustration and futility for a verb.

re david’s funeral: any thoughts re kim’s hair? not her best look

I didn't see this up, so here's the very in-depth WSJ story on the prisoner swap. one thing caught my eye. evan’s mother was the driving force, so there was a lot about her. but, it was also, “her husband, mikhail,” never “evan’s father.” so much so that i checked to see if mikhail was evan’s stepfather. but mikhail is indeed evan’s father. very strange.

well… sure, it galvinizes his base and if they were the only ones listening. but what he doesn’t seem to realize is that people who are on the fence are listening too. same with ‘never have to vote again’ . upthread, someone asked why is his campaign signing off on his bullshit — and who — inquiring minds want to know. i’ve had a hard time watching her since that 2016 60 minutes piece where she badgered valerie jarrett. https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/please-enough-schmooziness-theory-presidential-power/

for the record, that’s new york magazine, not the new yorker. here’s the new yorker’s current cover: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine re trump’s ‘won’t have to vote’ comment: there’s was a time when something like that would have been met with a 40-point headline and editorials from major publications expressing outrage. instead: To the Editor: “Trump Tells Christians, Vote ‘Just This Time’” (news article, July 29) contained critical information about the threat that Donald Trump poses to our democracy. Mr. Trump’s quoted statement was an admission that his plan is to subvert the democratic process and lead our country into authoritarianism: “Christians, get out and vote. Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore, you know what? Four more years, it’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” The reporting was clear, concise and easy for any reader to understand. Unfortunately, this article was buried on Page A15 of your newspaper. Can I ask, What is more important for a free press to publish on the front page than this direct and clear attack on our democracy by one of our two presidential candidates? Robin Perls-Shultis Shokan, N.Y.

from the ny times: deeply disturbing how little importance the new paper of record, at least east of the mississipi, attached to this existential threat to the american way of life. To the Editor: “Trump Tells Christians, Vote ‘Just This Time’” (news article, July 29) contained critical information about the threat that Donald Trump poses to our democracy. Mr. Trump’s quoted statement was an admission that his plan is to subvert the democratic process and lead our country into authoritarianism: “Christians, get out and vote. Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore, you know what? Four more years, it’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” The reporting was clear, concise and easy for any reader to understand. Unfortunately, this article was buried on Page A15 of your newspaper. Can I ask, What is more important for a free press to publish on the front page than this direct and clear attack on our democracy by one of our two presidential candidates? Robin Perls-Shultis Shokan, N.Y.

re trump’s “won’t need to vote again…” i had dinner with friends last night who pointed out that there wa a time when a. comment like that would have been met with 40-point headlines and editorials in major newspapers expressing outrage. but the news cycle is so crowded, it’s loss in the shuffle. but, you gotta love this from lindsey graham. lindsey graham huff post