Darn

39 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

It's weird how Carly used to be Maxie/Liz's contemporary and now she's basically Felicia's lol 

Maxie and Liz aren't even contemporaries. They're 8-10 years apart. The show has been pretty consistent about that. And Felicia is about 10 years older than Carly, they don't come across as contemporaries to me. 

The Felicia/Carly scene was outstanding and man, for the first time in probably 20 years I actively ENJOYED a Carly scene.

All you "wah wah where are the flashbacks" people are real quiet right now. Are you not embarazzed?

3 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

This is so far below acceptable that I don't know what to say.

Sounds good. Stick with that emotion.

I wonder if Luke is Bobbie's contact. He had to fake his death because to avoid retaliation from human traffickers. Luke, the reformed rapist trying to right past wrongs by helping girls escape abuse is not the worst way they could bring Geary back for a spell.

@ranger1rg really bold to tell someone why they feel the way they do. And this is a soap opera, a continuing story, the lifeblood of the damn thing is have one moment influence the next so yeah Bobbie's death is creating new story for the people left behind.

Didn't expect to come here and find 90% of the comments bitching about flashbacks. Good lord. Go to youtube if you need flashbacks that bad. It's free.

I thought it was beautiful and tying Bobbie's final days into her past is, to me, smart writing. It gives her daughter Carly, a character I do not like but the show's female lead, and Felicia, her best friend, something to play other than grief. 

Jane and Lynn's grief felt palpable, I felt like they were going to break a few times. And Laura's eulogy was beautiful and after a certain point it was clear that Genie was no longer talking about Bobbie but Jackie.

And no, @Khan I don't think she'll be revealed to have been murdered. Come on!

On 1/2/2024 at 10:25 PM, Errol said:

I believe one of the main reasons episode counts fell for some *ahem* actors is due to episode guarantees being reduced in contracts over the years and Frank Valentini taking over as EP in 2012. Previously, you could see out of hand it was to have actors appear in roughly 95% of every episode aired in a single year.

Beyond the favoritism that just sounds SO BORING to write. 

On 12/29/2023 at 7:09 PM, Donna L. Bridges said:

I'd fück him.

But really, I think he's aged into his looks. He did nothing for me in his youth on Port Charles. He looked like a billy goat to me. And like I told @Vee earlier today, the blonde on blonde pairing of Rafe/Alison just felt like a hate crime.

On 12/30/2023 at 7:11 PM, janea4old said:

They wrote CK's leave as Lily helping her daughter Matttie. Mattie attends an out-of-state university, and there was a wildfire on campus and one of Mattie's teachers died, and Mattie is traumatized (all of which was told via offscreen phonecalls).  So Lily went to stay with Mattie for a while and is taking a temporary leave of absence from Chancellor-Winters.

This has got to be one of the oddest story beats I've read to write an actor off temporarily. Suddenly Lily's children exist again...and a wildfire...kills one of her teacher...and Mattie so traumatized Lily needs to take a work sabbatical. Just weird.

Just put him on contract at this point. And lean into this look, it works for him.

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

EXCLUSIVE: Young and Restless Preview: Jordan and Nikki Face Off!

The lack of thought and care put into this story is kind of astounding.

But MTS and CZ look incredible. 70 ain't what it used to be.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Finn literally could stop appearing on screen today, with no explanation whatsoever, and nothing would be affected.  Not even the "romance" with Liz.  She (and viewers) could just pretend she had gotten ahold of some bad clams that made her hallucinate him and move on.

And that would track since Rebecca Herbst looks to be on the verge of vomiting in every scene with him.

8 hours ago, Vee said:

Deidre was, for awhile, massive household star - double duty on those shows, both of which I remember at the time, and then a biopic movie starring herself. It's interesting that that's faded in recent times.

Susan (Lucci) in a similar vein had a lot of primetime work in the 80s and 90s, numerous TV movies and guest spots. But she stayed with AMC the entire time. I know she was loyal to the show but I wonder why she never left, I'm sure she was offered plenty of opportunities.

Victoria Rowell did Y&R and Diagnosis: Murder simultaneously somehow. Full-time on both shows. It seems like daytime actors used to do a lot more primetime/outside gigs than they do now.

Good list.

Sasha's had more tragedy in her short stint than other characters have in 30 years. And absolutely no one cares.

Liz and Finn winning worst couple warms my heart. Poor Becky, shouldering the burden of yet another of ABCD's former bad boys as they've long aged out of "dangerous" and into filler and hair dye.

Isn't that kind of crazy, ABC devoted so much time, energy and money into making Michael Easton and Roger Howarth the male faces of OLTL to only have them whimpering out a decade (!) later playing characters that are personality free and contribute nothing.

5 hours ago, OpportunisticSlut said:

NOBODY wishing Krista good luck on the other hand... is fishy and creepy. Guys, this was your colleague a month ago... you posed with her on photos... why the complete silence? Isn't there at least 1 person that has compassion for Krista? I am so disappointed in human nature in situations like these. Everyone tries to save their own ass. People walk on corpses if their money or future is concerned. 

Honestly, that's the business. And they only worked with her for a year. Acting is such a transient profession, less so on soaps if you manage to become a staple but so many of these actors don't so you kind of can't get too attached to a co-star exiting. Especially on B&B where they've made it a habit to hire an established actor with fanfare only to dismiss them with a whimper shortly after.

4 hours ago, OpportunisticSlut said:

Have any of the other current actors posted ANYTHING to support Krista or just to wish her good luck at the Emmys? There has been a creepy silence in the Bold camp.

Of course not. Daytime is increasingly a despicable, ego-driven, incestuous, clique-y industry. Anything said in support of her would just result in retaliation from Brad and jeopardize that actor's employment.

Oh this is so sad. Surely there are TV movies she could be doing, no?

Maybe this is karma for wishing she could have been Putin's mother.

19 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Anytime you feel like it, you are free to say to me, "I told you so." 

He has before and will again. Don't tempt him!

This is so so stupid.

You can't expect a show that's currently telling a "he might DIE--or? Maybe not." story with an 80 year old man to be capable of making good decisions.

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That's what happens when Victoria and Nick are never allowed to grow up.

And they only begrudgingly allowed 70 year Jack to have an adult son a few years ago. It often feels like the characters are stuck in status from where they between 1995-2005. It's downright bizarre that Victoria has no adult children (before whatever this thing is with Claire is) to interact with.

Is the fear that if someone turns on the show and doesn't immediately recognize everyone as they were 20 years ago so paramount that they're not building for the future at all? Daniel, Mariah, Kyle, etc. should be driving story and they all could, they're played by talented actors who seem in it for the long haul. Why is Sony not demanding a true investment in them?

Crazy that the alleged next generation of Newmans has been window dressing for 15 years. They've done so little with him that he might as well have aged in real time. Has Noah ever had a memorable storyline?

Cole joins the Crimson Lights coalition I see. Is there an important conversation that can't be held in your local coffeehouse? Nope!

I simply don't understand the lightning speed of every major story.

However, my theory is that Josh (Griffin, not Morrow, who is just showing up to work on time) is more concerned with the twist, throwing those pesky viewers off, than he is with the story.

1. Diane's return was a SHOCKER. It got the show a lot of ink for a few days, and lapsed viewers went "OoooooH". Then, within a few weeks to a month (if that), everyone who mattered knew she was alive, and now, a year or so later, she's in story Siberia with Jack.
2. Cameron Kirsten, a villain that viewers had been clamoring to resurrect (or at least fans of Sharon who wanted her to have a story that didn't involve her in a love triangle with people whose diapers she used to change). And they didn't have to LITERALLY resurrect him because he was ALIVE and in prison, and viewers knew this. They didn't have to pull shenanigans to bring him back. They could have easily brought him back after serving a 20-year prison sentence (in REAL TIME) as a long-term (or dear god at least six months) foil for the Newmans. I know some of us here would like to blame the mishandling of that story on Linden Ashby's availability. Well, guess what if you don't have the resources to tell a fully realized story two decades in the making? DON'T TELL THAT STORY. Write something else until you have him signed to a short-term contract or he's free to work on a soap for however long he's not booking guest spots or TV movies. My god, it's not like the man was starring in the latest Star Wars Disney+ series.
3. Victoria killed her husband or something, I guess whothefuckknows and that was also a real shocking twist because uhhhh we saw the exit of handsome and talented soap legend Robert Newman. This wonderfully skilled man was brought on to portray a character who showed up (as the also handsome and talented Richard Burgi, himself a soap vet and primetime TV staple), did nothing of interest besides marrying a 50-year-old ingenue and died. Has he been mentioned since?
4. As part of the anniversary festivities Joshy kicked off a story in which Phyllis faked her death as revenge against Diane. Big umbrella story, right? ripple effects across the whole canvas that would presumably last months, if not years. Within weeks, everyone who mattered discovered she was alive. The story culminated in her killing a man. Would you even classify that as a C story now (if it's even still going in any real capacity)? Because from what I can tell, it's done, and the show is moving her onto a story, featuring two recurring actors with nothing to do but certainly happy to reminisce in every scene they're in, where she's apparently going to pursue a man who has actively hated her for 30 years. You guys. You guys. She faked her DEATH in April. Of this year. Just...what was the reason for all of that nonsense?

I don't even watch the stupid show and those are the twist-y stories I can think of off the top of my head that were told at a breakneck pace and ultimately amounted to nothing.

Making a story work over months, if not years, is the lifeblood of daytime. But this this this MAN writes as if this show is a freaking weekly anthology series.

Tune in next week! Whatever happened this week may or may not matter! But we'll be sure to include endless, tedious scenes of billionaires and their multi-millionaire friends sipping coffee and discussing their latest employment decision.

B!tch. Lmao.

Easton next? Stay tuned!

On 11/19/2023 at 1:14 AM, Errol said:

IMO, writers should not give characters medical conditions that should always impact the character's traits and abilities, such as Robin with HIV or Nikki with MS. Other than curable diseases, they should only give a character something if it moves a storyline and will have to follow through. Otherwise, it is disrespectful to the viewer dealing with the matter in real life as they see a character doing things they can't do themselves. Just sayin'.

For a soap I think GH has handled Robin's HIV pretty responsibly. They'd mention it regularly and it was always a concern whenever she had a medical crisis. And HIV/AIDS treatment has advanced so much in the last 30 years that I think showing someone able to live a fulfilling life was incredibly important.

The Newmans having a family group chat is hilarious.