Everything posted by Broderick
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Will soaps start firing actors who aren't fully vaccinated?
There's probably not much future in television for actors who refuse to be vaccinated. (There's also probably not much future in television for an actor who calls his show's few remaining fans "morons", lol.)
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Look into the past - 1975
I don't remember it being "offensive" or anything. There's no "Mister Prentiss" of course, and there's no Lucas (yet), so Lance was kind of the only man in her life. If I remember right, it just came across as an old lady waltzing with her son, as a woman might do at her son's wedding, and really enjoying herself. Of course the Oedipal Complex was WELL into play by then, but really no worse than we saw ten years later with Stephanie Forrester and Ridge on B&B.
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YR: Legacy character recast
As long as he looks younger than Nick & Sharon, he'll be ok I guess. My problem with Adamson is that he looked to be about the same age as his parents.
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Look into the past - 1975
Naw, it wouldn't have held any interest. Not unless you enjoyed lines such as Mr. Conway's favorite, "That Bennett scum is gonna marry our Jody, damn it!" lol. It was terrible. The whole thing played out again three years later when Dorothy & Wayne Stevens stood around saying, "That Williams scum is gonna marry our April, damn it!" after they discovered Paul was the father of Heather. You'd think so, based on the timing. In June of 1977 Brock tells Chris, "Surprise! I'm a lawyer!" Now, in July, he's in court with her. But I believe that's only part of it. Bell could've easily had Chris call Greg off-screen and get a recommendation for an attorney. John Conboy could've cast a charismatic young dayplayer in the role, and the audience would've said, "Oh, this is the guy Greg recommended; he must be okay," and it would've worked out fine. But I believe Bell specifically wanted to "deepen" the role Beau Kayzer played a little bit. Brock was a unique character on daytime. He was a spiritual character, and his spirituality was the characteristic that most heavily defined him. He quoted scripture often, but not in a preachy manner -- he made it applicable to life and to the circumstances that other characters were experiencing. (I've often imagined that Bill Bell, a Catholic, had likely been inspired to create Brock by some young priest in the Chicago Archdiocese who was helping people deal with problems in a more unorthodox, less preachy manner.) Unfortunately, Brock's spirituality made him difficult to present as a young leading man in romantic situations. He had platonic friendships with Jill and with all four of the Brooks sisters. But he wasn't seen as a "sexual" character, which was difficult on a show that dealt primarily with love and sex. Brock had to be placed in a central location (the Allegro) where he could interact with virtually everyone and offer his wise spiritual advice to the characters who needed it. Making Brock into an attorney created a new layer where Brock could "outsmart" a "wicked" character like Ron Becker in 1977 or Rose DeVille in 1979 or Victor Newman in 1980, and the audience could view Brock as not only spiritually wise, but also as street smart. This aspect WORKED, because it made Brock into a heroic character, although he never really was a romantic leading man by any stretch of the imagination.
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Look into the past - 1975
I'd forgotten that Brock Reynolds on Y&R pulled his, "Surprise! I'm an attorney" trick in 1977. I was thinking it was more like 1979, when he suddenly became law partners with Greg Foster. But there it is, in black & white.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Thanks, folks! I was a fan of Wesley Eure (mainly from "Land of the Lost" on Saturday mornings), and was pretty sure I'd witnessed Wesley being "less than a man" on Days of Our Lives during that same time period, until Linda came along and got his all of his man parts operating again, lol. [That entire episode seems to be based on the 1953 Broadway play "Tea & Sympathy" where the boy in prep school feels "less than a man" and is tormented by a more aggressive male whose sympathetic and understanding wife eventually pops the sensitive boy's cherry.]
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Y&R: Old Articles
Yeah, I thought Eric Peters (on Days) and Kay Chancellor were both bisexual characters, and that Bill Bell was just "edgy" enough to slide that on through to our screens, without beating us over the head with it. Of course in the case of Kay Chancellor, there was always the issue of her fundamental, unfulfilled loneliness -- and her desperate need to be loved -- that made her sexual preferences and motivations a bit murkier. Wasn't there also a more flagrant storyline on "Days" during this same time period when Wesley Eure's character flat-out questioned his heterosexuality? (I didn't watch "Days" as often as I watched Y&R, so perhaps I'm mistaken.) But I'm pretty sure it was about 1976 or 1977, and Mike Horton had pretty much decided that he was gay. Linda Patterson "cured" him, and he forged ahead as heterosexual, although the actor was who played Mike was gay and the seeds had been planted in the audience's mind that perhaps the character was bisexual as well.
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Y&R: Old Articles
My feeling is that the purpose of "Ma Henderson" (and her brief appearance) was just to cement that Liz Foster and Bruce Henderson were siblings. It seemed that Bill Bell put a lot of thought into the Henderson family -- Bruce Henderson, Mrs. Regina Henderson, Mark Henderson and the never materialized but heavily previewed Russell Henderson -- and wanted to be sure we understood they were Liz's relatives, although they existed in a different socio/economic sphere of the show. I've always felt that the tanned/blonde/bored Jennifer Brooks and the bored Regina Henderson were merely "prototypes" of a certain character that Bell really WANTED to write, but couldn't locate *exactly* the correct actress or *exactly* the correct characterization he was seeking. He ultimately found his actress (Jeanne Cooper) and his characterization (drunk, bored, haughty, vain, needy, resourceful, vengeful). The Kay Chancellor character kinda made both Jennifer and Regina obsolete, and Bell's attitude seemed to be "off with their heads".
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Y&R: Old Articles
All of that business with Jane Wilcox, Frank, and Sally seemed to be WAY off-track regarding the actual storyline, which of course was the triangle of Chris, Snapper, and Sally. I could never tell if it was merely "writers strike material", or if it was a device Bill Bell designed to postpone the marriage of Snapper and Chris, realizing that although the audience wanted to see them married, their marriage would likely be fairly uneventful and dull, effectively killing the appeal of two of his major "finds" (William Grey Espy and Trish Stewart). In hindsight, I'm pretty pleased with the culmination of the Joann/Kay Chancellor storyline. I appreciate that Bell left a certain amount of ambiguity in Kay Chancellor's intentions toward the girl. Yes, Kay declared that her feelings toward Mrs. Curtis were maternal, but Kay Chancellor was a character known to lie. Bell seemed to wink at the audience and say, "It's up to you whether or not you believe Kay Chancellor." Audience members who were horrified by lesbianism or bisexuality obviously chose to believe Kay's assertion that her feelings were maternal; the rest of said, "Yeah, right." lol.
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Look into the past - 1975
Thanks for the monthly synopsis and for the script summaries! (For a while, there were some clips of Joan Crawford & KT Stevens in "Harriet Craig" on You Tube.)
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Look into the past - 1975
I'm not quite sure that I remember/understand why Geraldine Whitney on "Edge of Night" is working so hard to get Raven married off to Kevin Jamison. Poor Draper can barely get untangled from her, and she appears to be Ansel's waterloo. As others have mentioned, these summaries are written so much better than Soap Opera Digest. I appreciate you sharing them on the board.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Yes, reading between the lines, I would guess that McCook, Flannery, Moss, and Lang had similar salaries going into 2012. We know that Flannery opted to retire circa 2012 (probably the moment she was offered the $300,000 or so cut), as she was in her 70s and could afford retirement. Moss was 60, and probably thought he'd be ok not working steadily -- he had $1,200,000 in his IRA, along with his residence and his rental property, according to the court documents -- so he also bailed out. McCook and Lang evidently quietly accepted the smaller salary and went on about their business, possibly with some negotiation that left them with a (slightly) higher salary than what was initially offered to Moss. I suppose this "salary tangent" is in a sense, Y&R-related as the two are considered "sister shows" and both Shari Shattuck and John McCook have previously appeared on Y&R. The reason I wandered into this rabbit hole is simply to state that Y&R actors probably shouldn't be expecting raises in a climate where talent is routinely given substantial cuts to meet the ever-declining soap budget.
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Y&R: Old Articles
There's a minimum that an actor can earn, which is often referred to as "scale". There's a certain "scale" for walk-ons, another "scale" for Under Fives, and another "scale" for contract actors. It's on the SAG-AFTRA page. In 2017, scale for a principal actor on an hour show was $1,038 per day. Scale for a principal actor on a half-hour show was $778. Scale for an under five on an hour show was $451 and on a half-hour show was $369. If the day lasts longer than 8 1/2 hours, there's an increase in each category. They're also guaranteed a break for a meal, and principals are guaranteed a closing (or opening) credit at least once a week, typically on Monday or Friday whenever possible. Ditto for writers, producers, and directors. Their union guarantees them a certain "scale". Their "scale" is higher on an hour-long show than on a half-hour show. In the past, we've seen most everyone on soaps earning way, way above scale. Evidently that trend is coming to an end, and salaries are being adjusted downward considerably, in light of the tighter budget restrictions. Clearly, Moss's offer of $400,000 is still FAR above scale, but for newer, younger actors, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are being signed at scale. If Moss were going to be used 3 times a week, 52 weeks a year, he'd have a total of 156 episodes a year. At $400,000, that would be $2,564 per episode, as compared with "scale" of $778 for an actor on a half-hour show. So even a "big-name star" like Ron Moss was being adjusted down to "scales times three", which is pretty low for someone who'd been driving story for 25 years. Not saying I sympathize with him at all, just saying that's a BIG drop. Y'all can google "Ronn Moss vs Shari Shattuck" and get all the details 😉
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Y&R: Old Articles
Plus he had to continue paying Miss Shattuck the same amount of child support as he'd paid when he was making $700,000 per year. (The "telling" aspect of the ordeal was that his new 2012 contract [$400,000] was for a ONE-year deal, not three or five. So they likely planned to bump him down even lower the following year. That's why he seemed to bail-out. He should've known he'd never have an income approaching $400,000 without B&B.)
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Y&R: Old Articles
Yep, he went into great detail about having to sell a house and make withdrawals from his IRA in order to pay his bills. He asked that his monthly child support payments be reduced as a result. The judge basically said, "Naw, you should've taken the $400,000 they offered you." I can see both sides of it. Why would he want to continue working the same number of hours as before for about half the earnings? But on the other hand, how do you go from $700,000 income to $0? It would be a tough choice for a lot of actors, I guess. But that seems to be the reality that soap actors have been dealing with for the past ten or fifteen years. Raises seem pretty nonexistent, and very drastic pay cuts are the reality of the industry.
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Y&R: Old Articles
I think a request for an actual raise on a daytime soap is probably out of the question. A "raise" on a soap seems to be not taking a deep paycut at the end of a contract cycle. There's no big mystery why Ronn Moss left B&B. When his multi-year contract deal expired in 2012, they bumped his pay from $700,000 to year down to $400,000 per year. And he was probably at that time the biggest "star" on the show. His pay was reduced by virtually 50%, and he said, "No thanks!" They replaced him with a non-working actor who was willing to settle for the smaller amount. (All of that is disclosed in court documents relating to child support obligations). If the girl who played Hilary Curtis was offered the same amount as her previous contract, without a 50% decrease, that's probably about as close as a soap performer is gonna get to a raise.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Good question. I'm guessing he just recycled the title of a soap that never happened. His 1972 prep-work on Y&R seemed to happen rather quickly, and in a backwards fashion. First, he got the greenlight to go ahead with his project, and only then did he begin working on his bible and character outlines, which evidently underwent several major revisions before making it to the screen.
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Y&R: Old Articles
I bet "Just Plain Bill" hated wasting an entire day with that reporter, though he managed to score a martini and a bloody Mary by early afternoon. Bill Bell had to be under a lot of pressure in 1973 --- writing breakdowns for Days of Our Lives and the entire 30-minute script for Y&R -- plus he was evidently monitoring several other daytime shows as well. And then to have a reporter waste such a big chunk of his day. Bet he ending up spending that entire night on his IBM Selectric having Snapper lay something pretty heavy on Chris.
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Y&R July 2021 Discussion Thread
Yeah, hopefully they got Stafford at a deeply discounted, fire-sale price, because she's pretty much contributed nothing since she came back.
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Women In The Director's Chair
Most definitely! She'd been directing the show for seventeen years, and she'd been a line producer for four years. She knew the show backwards and forwards, how it should flow, how it should sound, how it should look. And she had a spark of creativity in her episodes that few others seemed to have. She was passed over for executive producer in favor of someone else who appeared to have never watched the show before. But such is life!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Wasn't it Mary Ellis Bunim (former producer of World Turns in the mid-1980s) who created the show, about fifteen years later, where the two heiresses (Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie) go "slumming" for fun? I'm not diminishing Lily as a character. As FrenchBug82 explained far more eloquently than I did, it appears that the "poverty tour" was an integral part of Lily's motivation and characterization that simply wasn't addressed other than in the subtext of the scenes. On the superficial surface, Lily was looking for a warm home full of love, and she felt she'd found that with the Synders. But she could've found that in a variety of other places (including her own home, with a little more effort on her part). She seemed to have a pre-"Paris Hilton Complex" where we can spend our days entertaining ourselves in poverty, and then rush home to our trust funds at night.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Lily was pretty dreadful, but psychologically she was fairly interesting simply because she was the first "poverty tourist" I'd ever seen dramatized on a soap. Back in the 1970s, it wasn't unusual for wealthier people to take "poverty tours" of the Appalachian Mountains and photograph the poor living conditions of the residents of the region, then return to the suburbs and entertain their friends with "poverty tour" pictures. Now people seem to enjoy taking "ghetto tours" of Detroit and posting You Tube videos of burned-out houses and rundown neighborhoods. Lily was at the forefront of all that with her "hands-on poverty tour" of the Snyder farm. ("No need for me to spend another dull summer at the country club or the yacht club; instead, I'll go gawk at the hand-me-down clothes and squeaking doors of the poor, country folk! I won't offer to help. I'll simply immerse myself for the moment in their dreary little lives!") She was kinda like Nellie Oleson on "Little House on the Prairie", who enjoyed observing Half Pint's poverty from a safe distance, and then running back to Oleson's Mercantile in her white dress and bonnet to load-up on peppermints and lemon drops.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Yep, that's the girl --- Ariana Munker a/k/a Ariana Chase. Her bio shows that she was born in 1960, so she was only about 17 or 18 when she joined World Turns as Melinda Gray. She didn't have any "bad" soap habits then; she was just young, extremely cute, and a natural little actress. What I remember about her is that Beau Spencer (of Spencer Hotel fame) was married to Annie Stewart, who studied all the time (med school). Beau was bored. Annie was dull. That cute little Ariana Munker was tempting Beau to cheat on Annie. Whenever he'd start thinking about possibly porking Melinda Gray, Chuck Mangione's tune "Feels So Good" would start playing in the background. He finally did bang Melinda Gray, and then I believe he actually divorced Annie Stewart and married Melinda Gray. My main recollection is Ariana Munker looked like she'd be a lot more FUN than Annie. That's probably NOT what the writers were going for (viewer allegiance to Melinda Gray), but that's what they got from little boys in the audience lol.
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Look into the past - 1975
Yes, and Bill Bell even revisited the "paid companion" aspect of Jill's storyline during this Joann Curtis escapade, to remind the audience that if Kay can't "earn" friendship, she's more than willing to purchase affection at fair market value prices. She "purchased" Jill Foster as a paid companion (which led to disaster), then offered a paid companionship to Joann (not having learned a single thing from her recent experience with Jill). Bell is clearly laying the groundwork for Kay's ultimate paid companion -- Derek -- for whom she purchases the Golden Comb, and to sweeten the pot, she sets aside $100,000 for Little Phillip, provided Derek will live with her for a solid year without revealing to Jill that he's receiving payment in exchange.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
That girl who played Barbara Ryan's sister Melinda Gray -- was her name Ariane Munker? -- was one of the cutest, feistiest young actresses on soaps at the time, and her storyline seemed packed with potential. It was nuts that she was dumped. She was the only lively participant in that Dee/Beau Spencer/Annie story in the very late 1970s.