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Denise is not the first person to use cease and desists which makes the outrage so ridiculous. Do they want us to forget Kyle sent Brandi cease and desists? Of course, they do as it would mean Kyle can't claim Brandi is always honest. It also means they can't use the cease and desists as an admission of guilt. Sutton and Garcelle owned part one of the reunion. The other women were pathetic. I think it's worse than season four of RHONY because these women have no legitimate gripes against Denise. IF she lied, so what? It's not hurting them. It has nothing to do with them. They just see blood and they are attacking. Andy is an embarrassment. The man needs replaced. He's useless as a host.

So Brandi prostituted herself (to the network) to get back on the show and now she's upset that it didn't work? Please. I can't with this woman. Where did seasons 2 & 3 Brandi go? They need to fire the editors and producers who protect Kyle. They have so much they could use to prove she's a liar, but they use nothing. They have Mauricio season three being accused of screaming at Brandi to protect his real estate relationship with Paul and Adrienne. You have LVP calling him out for the same thing. In the reunion, he slips up and admits that's the reason. Season four, he calls the women b*tches, but somehow, Kyle is so upset with Aaron. Re:covid Do audiences really want to watch arguments about covid and masks? I'm exhausted by real-life idiots so I can't imagine wanting to watch shows where people like Kelly and Ramona are debating masks. RHOP: Didn't Karen complain that Robyn had made fun of her costume last week? She pulled the "We shouldn't attack other women" bit. I guess she thinks it's ok to attack others, but no one can say anything about her.

I don't understand people's need to tweet negative/hateful comments to people. That's what message boards are for. I can't stand Kyle, but I'm not going to tag her in an anti-Kyle tweet. A lot of these people just tweet these attacks so they can get blocked. A lot of them will have the list of people who've blocked them. I don't know why this would mean anything to them, but there it is. Oh Porsha. You almost made me appreciate your efforts. I never liked her, but I thought maybe she had changed. Twerking??? 2020 is waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and reveal the cameras and the actors. I was trying to remember the last time I thought RHOBH had a good season. I think 1-3 and 5 were the best ones. 4 was just a hateful mess, but that had nothing to do with Carlton and Joyce. From season six onward, the show just deteriorated into a dreary hateful mess with the housewives protecting their secrets at all costs. I'm now wondering if Taylor was more important to the success of the show than I thought.

Why are the edited out portions always so much interesting than what they leave in? This is always going on with RHOBH. Sutton even posted a little snippet of her singing during the finale party. Why couldn't they include that instead of all the Denise nonsense? It's just so aggravating that they could have a really good show in the raw material, but they choose to focus on one storyline that no one cares about.

RHOBH: I rewatched some of the second season reunions. I dislike Adrienne. The woman had no sense of humor about herself, and she was so angry about anything LVP related. The drama about the "Maloof Hoof" and how Adrienne thinks she is so important that an online publication would give LVP five figures for a boring story. It was so obvious Adrienne never wanted to be on the show and she resented LVP's success. It also depressed me to see how this Brandi became the gutter trash she is now. I never cared for Taylor, but at least Taylor's problems were real and serious, and it was not some scripted nonsense to protect the others from having to reveal anything. I miss that on RHOBH and other shows. I obviously don't want to see someone abused, but I mean real emotionally charged lives not the incessant drinking and the ganging up. RHONY:Still tickles me that Tinsley brought Dorinda down. Anyway, Bravo released a clip of Luann talking about her father's drinking. This is why I never liked Dorinda. Dorinda never really wants to get that deep (Contrary to Carole) unless it's about Richard. That's why Luann is the much better housewife.

I made the mistake of watching the finale. What a piece of sh*t. IT was worse than I imagined it would be. They so wanted to have a Brandi/Denise showdown but Denise wouldn't give it to them. They even had to pull a producer out to try to gaslight Garcelle. Boy the producers and Bravo just don't get it. Lisa Rinna's act is beyond. I have lost any regard I've ever had for her. I can't even look at her. She disgusts me so much. She has no shame or guilt for what she participated in. Ugh.

I'd like to think so, but I imagine that Rinna probably thinks that the haters just don't understand her. She thrives on being disliked. I would Rinna to have some semblance of humanity, but if she did, she would have immediately apologized for all the hate she threw Garcelle's way. Instead, radio silence.

Thank you @Taoboi for posting the link. I take any site with a grain of salt because anyone can be right sometimes. Most of these sites just throw out stories and hope that any of them stick. IS Bravo really going after the expensive older stars, or are the long-established stars imploding (Tamra, Nene, Vicki, Dorinda, Leann, Ramona, etc.) and Bravo sees a way to cut costs? They never would have let LVP go if she hadn't quit. IF anything, I think these personalities last longer than they should have because the network thought fans had loyalty to them. In a way, I get it because the HW shows are like soaps, and when you start firing the veterans, you do lose viewer loyalty. I just think Bravo gets it wrong when they think viewers have loyalty to certain wives over others.

That Garcelle had brought up her own situation with her son and that her questions about Rinna's dancing were in that context. It was not an attack, and it was not taken as an attack at the time. Rinna is only now using it to get publicity. You can find the edited footage on twitter.

Dorinda fired herself. Her behavior was deplorable this year (and I know she got worse after I bailed on the season). Are the good moments worth all the venom and negativity? I never thought so. Ramona is a monster, but she at least has moments of humour and lightness. I still chuckle at Ramona and Sonja looking up the meaning of white trash. Would I miss Ramona? Not really, but even clueless Ramona is self-aware enough to know to give an apology even if there's no sincerity behind it. Dorinda never wanted to take responsibility for anything. She became unhinged around Tinsley; there was nothing entertaining about it. It was scary and it was all over nonsense. Even if Tinsley were guilty of everything Dorinda accused of, it still didn't matter. Who cares?? It was like annihilating someone for returning a library book two days late. I'm shocked how no mainstream media outlet has picked up the way Rinna has treated Garcelle especially now that the full context of the conversation has been revealed. Rinna was throwing a black woman to the wolves for publicity and it's offensive on so many levels.

I'm glad Dorinda got the boot/quit. I'm one of those who disliked her from the beginning. I have waited for audiences to turn on her, and I'm glad most people now see her for the mean-spirited lush who attacked Heather. I also find it amusing that it was her relentless hate of Tinsley that led to this. She thought she was so much better than Tinsley and the audience would love her attacks on Tinsley. She probably doubled-downed on her behavior at the reunion, and she knew it was not going to look good for her. I've been hit and miss with watching RHONY this year, but could rhony survive without Ramona's antics (good or bad)? I know she's a terror in real life, but does she add something to the show? I think viewers crave consistency until it becomes too toxic. Is RHONY at toxic levels if Dorinda is gone?

Potomac: I am 100% behind Wendy. Most of the other women had to rearrange their lives/make arrangements so they could go on the trip. Ashley couldn't let Michael watch the baby? I find it selfish to bring a baby on a girls' trip or a friends' weekend. Parents always want to make events about them in my experience. You want to have a baby that's your business, but don't make it mine. Leave the baby where it belongs, and if you don't want to, then stay home. Karen gets on my nerves with this uplift women stuff. What show does she think she's on? The Woman's Hour?

RHOBH is never going to have much of a chance as long as the coven is allowed to remain unbroken. That's why they had nothing besides this pile up on Denise. Months of footage was edited out for this???? Even though Sutton never showed her children, she was much more enjoyable and made much more of a mark on the show than Erika or Teddi. The Lisa/Garcelle thing is so disgusting. In a time of BLM and increased focus on how black women are treated, Bravo and Lisa Rinna do this??? I wish more people were calling them out for this f**kery.

Joyce was a good friend to LVP and it annoys me that Joyce and Carlton got the short end of the stick because of the ugliness of the LVP takedown attempt. They could have had long-term potential, and it would have been nice to have Carlton there since she loathed Kyle.

I felt like a rant today: Rhobh: Brandi went on t.v. to have her father accuse her of being a hooker. I don't think there's a low that Brandi has met. This woman has children. Why is she allowing herself to be used by these women? Does she really think these women want her back on the show? They will spit her out into the trash heap when they're done with her. The money can't be that good either. I think this has the fingerprints of Kim on it. I didn't watch last season but I'm told Denise put Kim in her place during a Rinna/Kim argument. Kim is the right kind of vindictive to plan this sort of thing. Plus, she wants back on the show as well. What also gets me is the people who still say LVP was the master manipulator. Really? The same b.s. is still going on but it's even worse. Kyle has been the puppet master since season one where she obviously said that to Camille (re: Bravo not wanting to film her without Kelsey) and she's been lying and manipulating ever since. Kyle took such delight in Camille's season one fall. Adrienne is still blaming LVP for the surrogacy rumor. I have no idea why LVP would do that, but even if she did, this is why I don't like Adrienne. She wants to rewrite what happened. She was using Bernie to get to LVP. Bernie was posting all these anti-LVP tirades. This was between taking photos of an allegedly abused Adrienne which she would post on Facebook to get back at Paul. Adrienne was always angry that LVP didn't choose her hotel. Adrienne was mad about the Maloof Hoof comment. In 2020, she thinks Brandi was manipulated by LVP. These women never take the thought all the way through. If Brandi is so malleable that she can be manipulated into saying these things outside her character, that means she has no moral compass and she is a liar. IT also means that she would be such a failure as a human being that she should not have custody of her children. The same goes for Rinna who plays the "I was manipulated" card. I know the Munchausen gets brought up against LVP, but I think there was a lot more to the story. I believe David and Yolands's family talked to some of the women because they felt that Yolanda was faking. Yolanda admitted as much at one point (her family not believing her). Yolanda also became angry when she didn't get the spinoff she wanted. Joyce said some interesting things about Yolanda in her interview with Heather McDonald--for example, Yolanda wanted Joyce to badmouth LVP and would stop taping to get Joyce to do it. Speaking of Joyce, why is Bravo giving Brandi a platform after the racist way she treated Joyce???

Oh my lord. I feel incredibly stupid. I have no defence.

I didn't watch RHOBH last night, but I read that the Amelia/Lisa scene was staged because Amelia's hat kept changing within the scene. Is that true? Did people who watched it notice this?

Ah, thank you. I've been searching by her name and character rather than by date. Thank you for that.

Speaking of Vicki, does anyone know why Rhonda Lewin/Rhonda Lee lasted such a long time? I don't think I've seen her on any Another World eps or clips on Youtube. I know a couple of her star search appearances were on YT as of last month.

That Karen rant is why I can never fully get behind her. A real woman is only a woman who has children? Come on now! If Gizelle said that, Karen would be all over her for being sexist and dismissive. I see Rinna's daughter is trying to milk Garcelle's comment for all it's worth. Rinna must have told her that her allowance was at stake. We're seeing a lot more family photos these days. Hmmm..wonder why.

Exactly. It's like a gynaecological exam. This woman has kids. Why is she selling herself for crumbs? This is the same woman who went on one of those boot camp shows to have her father call her a prostitute. It's depressing but at least her outside matches the inside.

Pat the Puss Johnson makes her living because of gay men, but she said nothing about the relentless homophobic attitudes surrounding the big “secret.” Not one word. She sat there looking as if she had been weaned on an expired grapefruit. I know these women have made a pact never to talk about each other’s real-life dramas, but it was disgusting how “let me perform at gay pride” Erika Jayne never called them out for it.

IT was interesting to hear Alice Barrett say that she was killed off to pay for Robert Kelker Kelly. Yet again a woman is killed off to make way for a man. Most of us knew this but to have it confirmed...just ugh. I also wonder who the actor is that Barrett, Coppola and Tucci didn't like. I think even Browne cosigned.

Ellen Parker's was just in another league. It's probably one of the best reels I've watched in any category. If they had put Parker in lead, I think she would have beaten Dano. I really do think killing off Maureen signalled the end of soaps because it showed that producers were willing to do shocking/idiotic things to attract ratings. They ignored the fact that soaps need loyalty and when you do things that are a big f.u. to viewers, they're not going to stick around. Having listened to that sycophantic interview with JFP, it's obvious the woman still does not get it. In some ways, I think Tina Sloan never got over Ellen PArker's firing. She just seemed so emotional and upset by the whole thing.

It was so thrilling to see Ellen Parker again. Her story made me dislike JFP even more if that's possible. I was amused that Tina Sloan kept calling her Maureen. It was also touching to her Sloan talk about having to write the letter. MY only quibble is I think Miner tended to talk over the other women especially Sloan.