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Amazing crying scene from Sharon Case. Given the right material she can work it. I didn't expect to care about seeing Nick and Sharon together again but it feels good seeing them work together for Faith. It feels even better seeing Victor stand up for Sharon again. It's becoming evident that this Cameron plot may be a catalyst to bring the couple back together. If they do, it has to be endgame and neither of those two characters need any more children. It's crazy that Sharon still lives on her ex-husband's ranch despite her complications with his family. I also love that her house has virtually maintained the same appearance for nearly the last thirty years.

I used the term "eventually" and hesitated to say "rapid" because I remember Bill Bell wanting to cancel the show as it didn't do well at first. What factors do you all think lead ATWT to loose It's number one spot and not make it back into the top three for the 80s? From what I see with the yearly soap opera ratings on Wikipedia, AMC overtook them first in '78, 5hen GH solidified the number one spot by '79 (the obvious answer being Gloria Monty's changes). ATWT wasn't listed as reaching into the top three for the remainder of the decade.

With this whole Cameron thing, living on a ranch I'm surprised Sharon (or Nikki) doesn't own a gun. Victor has always been a more fist fighting and using his power kind of guy so that probably lines up.

Thanks. Y&R is one of the few examples of a successful 12:30 soap. It's dark shadowy tone IMO fits for a late afternoon 4pm soap as well.

What do you all think it was about Y&R that eventually made it perform so well for new soap in the late 70s into the 80s?

Good question. I'm wondering if they will cross paths in 2023. This would also be an interesting time to re-introduce Sheila to the Y&R's canvas given all these villains that are coming back.

I like that Cameron is back and causing trouble, and they don't have them trying to be reformed like Diane, which would be pointless and boring. On the other hand, they need to raise the stakes and have Cameron either working with Grace or someone like Matt Clark's twin cousin. I don't know if this scene happened yet, but it would be interesting to see Mariah react to the man that killed her dad. Cameron's trouble needs to be methodical and impactful rather than just returned and crazy off the jump. I wonder if the writers worried back then that the Cameron plot was too similar to the Matt Clark/Carter Mills stories? I liked what of saw of the OG Cameron plot but it felt like randomly terrorizing Sharon just for some action. Matt Clark's plot was more complex. Teen pregnancy secret, framing Nick for his shooting, coming back with a new face, the Tricia and drugs stuff and framing Nick for his death etc.. Overall, this is the most interesting thing Y&R's has done in years, and this is significantly better written than Sheila's return on B&B.

Late to the party but how do you all feel about revisiting Cameron.

Was Claudia being Johnny's mother a rewrite or was this a bombshell that was always planned for later on?

Lol! I can totally see her as Phyliss on Y&R

I'd say 98-01 was strong. 02-05 is a decent bronze era for the show. 94 to 96 did have good plots. Its just the plots before and after them were stronger.

I see where you all are coming from but Luke & Bobbie's sibbling relationship was big on the show and IMO he should be there. There must be some way to write this in a non Luke-centric manner. Geary doesnt have to return but I'd like to see a characher as major as him go out better than died off screen in a train crash. If Luke were to remain dead at minimum he could greet her into heaven like that Edward/Lila scene for like 5 seconds.

OLTL: Asa's presumed death in 2001. Loved the funeral with all the ex-wives and the acknowledgement that Blair's actress was Asian. The show was really comedic and satirical around this time. The entire time he was on an island hoping for Gabrielle and Max to go down for his murder.

Yes!!! I'd like to see Tony and BJ's ghosts come to Lucas as a halucination or something for her funeral. Wish Lucky coukd come as well. Hopefully Tony Geary can come for her funeral and Luke is revealed to be alive.

Agreed. L&L were worth the hype BUT give the other moments (outside of the ones always brought up) and actors on the show credit aswell.

Agreed. Alan, Monica, Rick, Leslie, and Jeff and Heather deserve their flowers for also elevating the show during that period. Having began watching in the 2000s I didn't even realize Bobbie was on as late as 2010. I knew she was big in the 90s but by the 00's you'd never know Bobbie more than a Sonny & Carly talk to. What a shame she never really lead stories after 1998/99.

Always liked when they used that slower theme. Wish it were done more often for other heavy episodes like Stone's death.

Oh my God. We are loosing our daytime legends fast. Bobbie was a great charachter and I wish she'd gotten more lead material in the 2000s. I'm really concerned about Leslie Charleson and I'm hoping we see her again soon.

I suppose B&B writers knew Sheila would be a longterm charachter so they didn't want her using an alias? Maybe not to confuse new viewers? Lauren keeping her promise to Scott and not exposing the baby switch still makes no sense to me, especially given all her Sheila takedown attempts on B&B. Y&R frustratingly sweeps alot of things under the rug, and glosses over details, lol.

Hope those episodes surface soon. Perhaps one of the best uses of an actreses' actual pregnancy. Did Scott ever realize Sheila raped him and their "affair" wasn't consensual? I asked this before but how does Sheila not ring alarm bells if she's using her real name in Los Angeles LOL?

Wow, That is actually alot by daytime standards. Furthermore have we ever seen John in a love scene besides this👀? Even though CBS was more conservative than ABC soaps, some of the lingere and bikinis they had on Y&R and B&B were much more risque than what I've seen on GH, AMC and OLTL.

1 Stephanie 2 Brooke 3 Sheila 4 Sally 5 Taylor

Liking Ice Princes 4.0 story so far. Victor sounds alot like Thanos. Good Disney synergy, lol! Didn't we do a pathogen story already.

Or some random AMC cross over woth Dr David Hayward and Project Orpheus, involve Ana Devane in it some how to bring multiple charachters back (AJ, Tony Georgie, Emily, maybe even Justus, and it would be a behicle for Steve Burton returned if he or the show were on board. Too bad Stuart Damon is gone now.

What a shame that Tony could not get a break. From Tania to BJ, to Michael and then his death. He would fit in well with the vets that we still have today. They could've easily brought Tony back from the dead just as they had with several other charachters. Helena kept him on ice or sonething to use his expertise to revive someone else...again.