adrnyc

23 minutes ago, safe said:

 

 

 All that is here are some of the Soap Opera Digest that you mentioned and the weekly newspaper recaps for 1982, 1983, and 1984 that are on page 20 of this thread.

 

I sent you a PM. Let me know if you received it

Got it - thanks!

2 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

No, you're not looking for it wrong.

 

Unless they were posted and the uploader set them as "unlisted", there are no complete playlists from May to December 1990 uploaded to YT. There are a handful of episodes and clips uploaded though (Ryan's introduction, Cass and Frankie's first wedding, Jake's shooting). 

Ok - thanks for letting me know! At least I know it’s not my inability to find them. I did see those random episodes and made a list. So I’ll watch those and then just be happy to be able to see most of ‘91 and ‘92 it its entirety. 

First, thanks to the person who posted all the above articles - those were a fascinating read.

Second, I need some help and don’t know where else to go to ask. Is there any book and/or online site that can help fill in the gaps between what is posted of Ryan’s Hope 1983 to the end? I’ve been watching 1983 this year and there are now some significant gaps in the story. (I found further back in this thread the Soap Opera Digest recaps of 1982 and early 1983 which were a HUGE help to get me up to speed with the beginning of ‘83.). I got to July and it’s missing. As is Sept - Nov, I think?)  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I need some help and don’t know where else to turn to ask. 

I’ve been watching the SoapNet run of AW. It appears that most of May 1990-December 1990 is missing. I’m super disappointed in that because I never got to see the fall of 1990 as I went to college and didn’t have a VCR that first semester. Since SoapNet re-aired it, I find it hard to believe that someone out there didn’t keep every episode. Am I looking for it wrong? I used to be able to just put in “Another World June 1989” (or similar) and a ton of videos would pop up. Any help would be appreciated. I never found out who tried to kill Jake and would love to finally watch that storyline play out!

Forgive me if I’m incorrect about this but I feel it was on this message board where someone asked about the actress playing Bianca Marcquez- that they hadn’t seen her listed on any of the closing credits. I just finished watching Oct 27, 1989 and it was the first time I saw her name. The actress is Karina Arroyave. 

Has anyone seen this? It’s an LGBTQ serial I’ve stumbled upon - seems to have a new chapter released every day. It’s reminding me of how much I loved ATWT. It and ATWT on YouTube are the only things keeping me sane these days...   https://www.thehomosofharmonyhaven.com

14 hours ago, robbwolff said:

 

Thank you, Paul. In all my years of lurking and then posting on this board, I've never seen someone so sanctimonious. Why so judgmental, Jarrod? For someone who attacked the members of this board just months ago for being overly critical and negative, you sure seem to love to wallow in negativity.

 

 

You might have him confused with me. I found this message board to be an incredibly negative space where people just seem to enjoy picking things apart and arguing. i.e. rather than discuss what they love about a series, they wait for someone to post what they love and then rip it apart. If they have something nice to say about one of the soaps, it won't be on that soap's thread, it will be on another soap's thread used as an example to pick apart and say something negative about that soap. That's perfect fine; I don't think those conversations shouldn't exist. I just don't have an interest in joining that type of conversation which is why I haven't posted since then. This message board has about 5 or 6 users who have a very specific narrative and they in no way like it being challenged. When someone does challenge them, they just start name calling and saying "go away". I went away - life is way too short 

I still check this place out though because it is a treasure trove of information. Thanks to this board, I was able to read what happens in Ryan's Hope in 1982 now that I've finished the SoapNet run. 

Also, although you all may not enjoy what @JarrodMFiresofLove is saying and disagree with it doesn't make him wrong. Those of us that are a part of a minority have two ways of identifying with it - with the negative aspects of it and bringing it into every topic of conversation and "oh woe is me" about it, pointing out each and every wrong OR we can recognize that, yes, injustices happen but they don't just happen to our minority. Will & Grace just did a fantastic takedown of those types with a "Which minority has it worst?" storyline. Usually, the people who don't carry it around on their backs are the ones who are actively participating in making things better. 

And now, I'm going to go enjoy a classic episode of ATWT from 1988 followed by one from AW from 1989 and revel in the fact that so much of this content exists for me to watch. They bring me an incredible amount of joy and fun and bring a smile to my face before I head out to face the many ways in which I might be discriminated against today.

46 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

 

There are plenty of threads (not just ATWT's thread) where I discuss things I like about ATWT, in particular.  We've spoken at length about the "warm feeling" of the episodes where characters gather for holidays, weddings, funerals, picnics and other events.  

Here is one where I compare ATWT and Y&R and why as a theater person, I loved ATWT, in particular.

 

https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/49109-soaps-that-were-filmed-in-new-york/?do=findComment&comment=1279586

 

Here's another post where I lament the fact that there aren't enough episodes posted on You Tube that show just how juicy certain storylines were and how I'd pay money to see them in their entirety again.

 

https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/37693-as-the-world-turns-discussion-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1279682

 

This post is actually by @DRW50 who is very complimentary about a particular aspect of the show, complete with a clip to illustrate.

 

Here's a post where I talk about how ATWT has some of the nimblest actors in daytime and would do very well in a live broadcast.  Granted this is more classic ATWT but it is a reference to how talented these actors were that they could transition to a live performance in front of cameras.

https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/49517-which-daytime-dramas-would-be-great-if-they-had-to-go-live/

 

A lot of compliments about The Willows episodes.

https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/37693-as-the-world-turns-discussion-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1294789

 

I've also made "positive" posts about things such as how talented I thought the direction was by people like Maria Wagner.  No one really talks about directors but a bad director can really botch a well written scene. 

I've also posted previously about how much I enjoyed the "roving" camera technique that appeared to be unique to ATWT in the 1980s.  I don't have time to dig but I discussed how the technique was employed and how challenging it is to pull off and perhaps that's why it isn't done anymore.  

 

Not too long ago, we discussed how progressive the Susan and Dan Open Marriage storyline was, especially for the 1970s.  In many ways, far more progressive than what is illustrate on today's soaps.  And unlike the Newman Y&R storyline, ATWT handled their with more realism and thought.

 

There are many positive posts about ATWT, not just in this thread but in other threads (you'll even find some in Y&R's thread), if you care to truly search.

Just because you don't see them in a passing glance, doesn't mean they don't exist.

If you're looking solely for the negative in things, I guess that's what you'll get. 

I don't think people should have to justify how much we cheerlead.  There are plenty of messageboards that do that.

As I said, I enjoy this particular board because we can post critically and understand that, in general, we enjoyed the show.

Having to continually post what is deemed an acceptably positive post, requires a kind of spoon-feeding that I think you won't find here.

 

First of all, thanks for responding!  

I'm not sure why you think I would expect to find people talking about ATWT on a Y&R thread. It would never occur to me to go there - I don't watch Y&R. So, that's great, that people champion ATWT in a non-ATWT thread! However, as I only look at the ATWT thread, you can understand that I wouldn't come across that. 

And you're putting words in my mouth. I'm not a pollyanna who doesn't like critical debate. What I've been trying to say is that on this particular ATWT thread, things have been pretty negative lately. And when I try to throw some positivity in, I get attacked. It's very telling of the type of people on this board and you're correct, it's probably not the place for me.  Message understood. 

2 hours ago, Khan said:

No offense, but you are too damn new to this board to be telling others what they should and should not post, here or anywhere else.

No offense, but I'm a human being. How new or old I am has nothing to do with it.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

@adrnyc Please don't be offended by what I'm about to tell you because I genuinely enjoy most of your posts and engaging with you:

We think critically on this board. 

We debate, we pull apart, we deconstruct. 

It's what I enjoy most about this board, is to have critical, thoughtful discussions of storylines, characterizations, direction, music cues and use of popular music, sets, even wardrobe and hair.  Also, budgets, the socio-economic times in which stories were written.  The strengths as well as the flaws of the writers and how it affected the show, both positively and negatively.

I think you'll find that we are fans of the show but we also realize the problems that did impact the show, some of which were precipitated by the producers of the show, some of which were precipitated by the industry itself, and some where happened as a natural flow of events in the overall culture.

 

We can appreciate when things are done well and do discuss them but we are not going to be shy about discussing and yes, deconstruction things that are not done well.  No, we aren't cheerleaders here.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to have an issue with the fact that we appear to be very critical of the last decade of the show?  We are critical of all eras that we've been able to see on camera and discuss with some facility.

 

As a writer, I've had my work read aloud in workshops and some can find the process uncomfortable to brutal but in grad school, I've learned that a writer can be protective but not become 'too precious' of his or her work.  I will defend the aspects of my work that I believe to be worthy but I also have learned to be open to critique of what is lacking or deficient.  It's a part of the process of making the work sharper, stronger and ultimately more powerful and engaging.  It's what every writer wants.

 

The thing is, most writers (the ones who are worth their salt) welcome their work being engaged with.  Indifference is worse than dislike.

 

I don't know what to say except that we have some strong opinions around here and this a great space to freely discuss them.  I truly appreciate this.  It's what keeps me coming back to this board.  

 I don't take offense to anything you said. I like a good constructive debate about a show. But really, when did someone come on here and talk about what they LOVE about ATWT rather than that what they don't love. I'm simply trying to bring about some positivity today. What do you LOVE about ATWT?   I really really want to know. And everyone else. What does everyone LOVE about ATWT?

I get that many people don't like the last decade - that doesn't bother me. I love to get into a debate. It just so happens that if I talk about what I love it will be about the last decade because that's what I watched.

Of course, I'm watching the 80's currently but I feel as if I am only just now after 2 years of watching the videos getting to place where I can really comment on the period. If I were to say something I LOVE about this period - one character in particular - it's Meg Snyder. Her journey over the past 2 years is really starting to emotionally affect me. Jennifer Ashe is really pulling me onto her side. I don't believe for a second that she loved Tonio at the start - she was simply going into a business arrangement where he gets a green card and she gets lots of wealth and material possessions. But, oh my Lord, I've watched her grow to truly love Tonio over the past year or so. Seeing her heartbroken over Tonio's affair with Emily is really getting to me. I'm not sure that I think Josh is necessarily a great love for her either (it's early days yet so I may change my mind) but I'm hoping to see her get into a great relationship one of these days. Being loved in return for her just might help her to be less manipulative and selfish. (At least, that's what I would do if I were writing the character. Learning how to truly love and be loved has changed many a person.) I can't wait to "tune in" these days to see where Meg's story will go!

Again, as someone else pointed out to me, I'm still fairly new to the board. And what I'm saying is: from a new person's perspective...y'all seem to really focus on the negative around here instead of the positive. For one day, could we champion the show we love rather than pick it apart? Is that too much to ask?

Ok - here's what I wanted to say: sometimes you guys make it sound as if you all hate As The World Turns. All I ever see are posts about what you don't like.  So I'm posing a challenge today: POST WHAT YOU LOVE ABOUT AS THE WORLD TURNS!! What was your favorite storyline? Who was your favorite character? What was your favorite year of the show? We will all feel differently about this because the show ran for 54 years and we're all of varying ages. The challenge is this: DON'T RESPOND TO SOMEONE'S POST ABOUT HOW YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY LIKE. ONLY POST WHAT YOU LIKE.

I'll start

My favorite storyline was Barbara being set on fire and the dark turn that she took for many years. The follow up with Stenbeck returning and him kidnapping the 3 pregnant actresses was brilliance on Sheffer's part. It was so suspenseful at first as the ladies disappeared and then such a blast to tune in every day and watch Martha and Kelley sitting around in bathrobes being massaged by hot guys, laughing (or pretending to) on their drugs, and trying to escape. The moment when Craig sees Carly with her aged face and runs the other way while Jack sees Carly and still sees her as the woman he loves and has always loved was the absolute highlight of the series for me. A beautiful story acted brilliantly that moved me to tears.

My favorite character: Katie Peretti (this will infuriate many of you. That's ok. We all love different things. I can't wait to read your favorite!) Katie was a vixen when I started watching and Sheffer quickly had her love for Simon turn her around. The complete 180 was played to perfection by Terri Conn. (I remember reading an interview where TC said Kathy Hays told her how to play the scene so the audience would go with her and I sure did!)  Simon and Katie were one of my all time favorite pairings. Until Mike and Katie. And then Brad and Katie.   Basically, anyone other than Jack and Katie worked for me! Sheffer made her the comedy character along with Henry. I loved watching their hijinx. One of the first storylines of ATWT when I started was Simon and Lily on the island all summer. It wasn't a favorite of mine - also wasn't written by Sheffer. One of the first things he did when he took over as head writer was get them off of the island. However, when he then took Katie and Henry and stranded them on the same island and did a comedy story - utter brilliance. He took something that didn't work and made it work. It's one of the reasons that so many actors from the show will tell you how much they loved acting during Sheffer's tenure.

My favorite year of the show was probably 2002. All of Sheffer's work was gelling. The actors obviously loved having such great material because they all stepped up to the plate and knocked it out of the park.

I LOVE ATWT!!!!!!

On 6/23/2018 at 3:52 PM, All My Shadows said:

My computer kept wanting me to quote another post from days ago and wouldn't let me type anything of my own in the box - super weird. It's forcing me to type in the quoted source box. So I posted it here. If it's possible to delete posts, please do! (Or please explain to me how I do it.)

3 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

 

Call me old school, I care not, but to me, from a Aristotelian dramatic prospective, the storylines were just not well-written.  They lacked depth, consistency, cohesion and were mostly unmoored from logic.  I'd loved to hear an opposing perspective that specifically addresses how any of these specific storylines and characterizations in the last several years were well written.  Or even defensible.

I've got a master's degree in acting and could go full-on with you in this conversation. I think we'd both get along and enjoy a good debate. It's something that would best be done in person over coffee/wine/dinner, whatever - not in a "date" way - but I think you probably know what I mean - a message board discussion that detailed I think would make me bonkers as opposed to just a good hour long convo. However, a message board is where we are. You've already got me thinking but I must go start my Friday night. I may PM you though at a later date as our debate over things could bore everyone else.

I actually agree with you about so much of what you've said; however, because I did enjoy those last 18 months of the show (after kinda despising/not watching it for a few years like every one else, albeit for different reasons) I would like to take the other side and see how well I can defend it!  

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Just saw this and picture quality is superb. This is the Ruxton Hills Murder. The episode following this one was included in the DVD release unfortunately this one wasn't. Unless I am wrong...I need to double check...LOL

 

Hey - thanks for posting these!  I've actually been watching everything on YouTube for the past year and a half. 1986 and 1987 both had roughly one half of the episodes on there so I watched both of those years last year. (One episode a day M-F just as if it were still on the air - I'm a bit of a loon but a harmless one.) So I've seen those - the Hello Barbara reveal was brilliant even though I, of course, had that spoiled - how could I not? It's such an iconic moment.  Loved the Ruxton Hills as well!

Right now, I'm in the bowels of the 1988 writers strike. Half of this year exists as well but I've slowed down and watch just half an episode day - so it should take me all year to get through it.

26 minutes ago, adrnyc said:

 

I'm not trying to be super b!tchy or anything - however, I believe that there are some audience members who get so stuck on the past that they can't go with a good story because of their pre-conceived notions. 

 

 

Yes, I'm quoting my own post here because I really don't mean that to come across b!tchy but I think there's no other way it can. I've felt that way a long time, however, and not just about soap opera fans. I feel the same way about Doctor Who fans, Star Trek fans, Star Wars fans. Those are shows I personally watched and loved for decades and now that they're being redone/rebooted/sequeled the eff up, I see so many fans who hold onto the past stuff at the detriment of their being able to enjoy the present stuff. And, where I absolutely can see that everything-is-not-for-everybody, I sometimes wonder why fans keep watching something that they no longer enjoy and then badmouth it all over the place - I think "Just quit watching it" - haha - that's what I did whenever I didn't like something - ATWT included. I missed a lot of '05 and then '07 and half of '08 because I just wasn't enjoying it. Then I came back and it wasn't the same, but I had missed the show so much that I just went with it. <cough> JanetLiberty <cough>

5 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

CZ liking it doesn't surprise me. I find that there are a good bit of soap stars who enjoy stories/pairings solely because they enjoyed playing them, not because the story was good or made sense, and that's fine.

I'm not trying to be super b!tchy or anything - however, I believe that there are some audience members who get so stuck on the past that they can't go with a good story because of their pre-conceived notions. 

3 hours ago, P.J. said:

I was more annoyed they made Henry James' illegitimate son, tbh. 

That was the BIGGEST smh moment of the entire series. There were many of them but I think that's right at the top of mine.

3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Yeah, I was comparing the past overall, not just Barbara's pairings.  I think CZ is a real trooper and I'm not saying her opinion is invalid but but I'm not sure why people are giving an actor's opinions ultimate sway on what makes a story great.  They don't write the story. 

Havin Gunnar return to announce that he slayed James once and for all would alone, have made a return worth it.  Also, if it could happen right before Barbara was set to walk down the aisle with Henry, you generate some intrigue.  Henry and Barbara's disco twirl just didn't do it for me, in terms of interest. 

I'm in the camp of "Gunnar who?" That was just soooooooo looooooooooooong away from the ending of the series. Almost 20 years! I don't understand this obsession that people have over Gunnar. I've seem some clips of that time period and he's just so bland. He does absolutely nothing for me.

For my money, Hal was Barbara's soul mate. However, he was dead by then. (As was Gunnar.) I thought the writers did the best they could given the characters they had.

8 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

The good thing about the Gunnar character is that he basically disappeared with the assumption that he later died. 

But there was more than an assumption. They got word that he had died. I remember watching the characters go through that just last year. (For me, at least. Last year would've been '86-'87 for me.)

14 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Not a James Stenbeck fan?

Not enough to buy an entire DVD of him. Having only watched the aughts, I only had one really good storyline of his (with which no-one on this board will agree with me) which was the kidnapping the 3 ladies so the pregnant women could have their maternity leave. I found Stenbeck to be everything the soap opera magazines were saying about him at the time - frightening, manipulative, yet sexy as hell. Pretty much every other time after that just got worse and worse - ending with that awful James-in-a-young-man's-body storyline. That was as bad as Marlena as the Devil for me.

Now that I've seen those episodes on YouTube from the DVD's, as well as what else exists of his first (which, now that I think of it, might only be the DVD episodes) and second tenures on the show, I'm more of a fan. Once again, I would just hand P&G my wallet if I could see the entirety of James' first stint and his battle with John Dixon. Since Gunnar is in there as well, maybe it would help to give me an appreciation of him as well.

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Yes, Colleen mentioned how much she loved the Henry pairing a while back. I was so disappointed in hearing it. I pretty much stated that I hated the pairing and wanted her with Gunnar. For some reason she didn't believe Gunnar was her true love. Very odd......

Did you get to purchase the ATWT DVDs that were released?

Oh yes! I got them all except the James Stenbeck one. The Bob & Kim one made me long to see more of the 80s. (At the time, I didn't know so much sequential stuff was on YouTube.) I thought the 2 weeks of that DVD set were a perfect jumping off point - I wanted to see everything from that point forward. I'm still hoping!

5 hours ago, Khan said:

Well, I'm glad someone (namely, CZ) enjoyed Barbara and Henry's relationship.  Too bad there were others who didn't.

 

Henry paired with ANY woman never made sense.  I'm sorry, but there you have it.

I was one of those who was convinced Henry was gay until '05. I think the everyone working on the production thought the same way. In order to put him on contract, they obviously felt they needed to pair him with someone. The Katie pairing failed miserably because those two were best friends, they could never be lovers. The actors had to have thought it was super weird as well - it came across in their performances. 

However, that being said, once he was with Vienna, I could see the change in the character and was forced to go with it because Henry was one of my favorite characters up until that point. (Katie is as well - I don't understand any hatred for Katie Peretti unless it's just from people who were fans of the show for years already. Coming into ATWT in 2000 - and the transformation that the brilliant Sheffer wrote for her later that year - she was part of the main reason I watched the show. Katie/Simon, Katie/Mike, Katie/Brad - gimme, gimme, gimme!!) 

Because I had no real connection to Vienna, I wasn't super into her and Henry - they were ok. But when they put him with Barbara - so much fun!

Henry and Barbara were THE BEST!!!  And Colleen thinks so herself - when I ran into her at an audition, we talked for quite awhile and she was as thrilled that the writers put her with Henry as I was. It was a completely unexpected pairing that just worked brilliantly. They were so fun together and Barbara hadn't been fun for a looooooooooooong time. Their dancing together was a hoot - Colleen said those scenes were so much fun for her to play due to her being a dancer at the beginning of her career. She hadn't gotten to really dance in such a long time - it was a joy for her. I'm so sorry to hear that so many fans on this board didn't like it because Colleen said she was having the time of her life!  And, of course, having a younger man is always nice.

It was great to hear about what happened with Soap Classics - that 80s music always comes back to bite us soap fans in the butt. I get so frustrated when I go to watch an AW or ATWT video and get the message "This has been restricted due to copyright infringement."  I'm telling you, I know I"m probably in the minority but ATWT is like a drug for me. I'm would just open my wallet for P&G if I could buy episodes of that via Amazon or iTunes.

I hope she can get help. As someone who suffers from depression and anxiety, I can tell you, it is no joke. The tricks that your mind plays on you are awful. At least we are finally beginning to dip our toes into the water of discussing mental illness in this country. Current stats are that 20% of Americans suffer from it. May we all find the help we need.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

 

I like Maggie too, although making her all about babies made her difficult to tolerate, as happens so often with women on soaps.

 

It's still weird to me how she was written out and never mentioned again. Even many years later my mother would talk about "Lyla's sister Maggie" and "Lyla's sister was with Tom too," and I never had heard anything of this character. I knew nothing of her until I got the ATWT history book when it came out. 

I could see how Maggie being about nothing but babies would be infuriating. That's part of why I'd love to see all the episodes - to see if being able to watch more of the day-to-day episodes would help bring some shading to different characters than I'm getting. 

List of characters I've seen on these old episode but of whom I've never heard:

Rick Ryan

Anyone with the last name "Andropolous"

Kirk Anderson

Maggie Crawford

Seth Snyder

Ellie Snyder

Caleb Snyder

Roy Franklin (and any of his siblings)

Shannon O' Hara

Ooooh, I've just realized there are way too many to type!  And I'm sure there are so many characters coming throughout the 90s to whom I'll be introduced that I've never heard mentioned!

Kincaid is definitely a forgettable Tom! It was fun to watch that posted '84 episode again. I must have seen it from another account because I would've watched it 2016 - I definitely remember seeing some of the scenes in it, though - Bob & Kim in his office; Dan bringing Margo the chicken soup. Oh, how I would love to see all of the episodes be digitized and released online someday!!

I've always enjoyed Maggie in the episodes I've seen with her in them.

I forgot/didn't realize how much they tried to make Lindsay Frost look like Meg Ryan at the beginning - that hair!!

I miss having Mark Pinter on the show. Fortunately for me, I'll be getting to his time on AW soon.

Loved Kate O'Mara in so many things. They didn't seem to know what to do with her on Dynasty. Cassie (Caress really is a ridiculous name and I refuse to use it - ha!) never really did anything on Dynasty. The producers & ABC just wanted to cash in on how well the show was doing overseas/thought it'd be a great idea to give Joan Collins a sister. I always enjoyed seeing her when she would appear but she rarely progressed a storyline. It was just Alexis trying to stop Cassie from publishing her tell-all book. I found it all to be a bit of a snooze fest. But she looked great!

I watched the episode above in late 2016 as I embarked on my journey to watch every episode of ATWT in order that I could find on YouTube.  I treasure seeing high-def episodes from the time period - it helps get just a little feel, at least, of what the show was like then. I love seeing anything I can with MC's Margo. I've still not really taken to HBS as Margo. ED *is* Margo, as far as I'm concerned but MC's Margo intrigues me a lot!

It's fun to see Bob/Kim/John/Lisa/Lyla in earlier days of the show (not as early as 60s/70s of course) and to see a bunch of characters that I had only read about in books. If it's a genuine representation of the show at the time, it only makes me want to see everything from that era. 

Would love to know the answer to the Lisa & Kim question as well. I can sure see Lisa not liking Kim because Lisa either wanted Bob back or...Lisa didn't want Bob, but she didn't want anyone else to have him either. Speaking of, did Lisa like Jennifer?

I can't chime in to the Kirk stuff - I can't really read it all so I don't spoil myself BUT because there were so many posts about him, I had to google the character a 2nd time. I started to really become interested in Kirk Anderson (both character and actor) so I looked him up to see how long he was on ATWT...I saw April 1988 - August 1988, thought he must have just been a writers strike character, and thought no more of it. However, from the conversation and memories that seemed to come out of it, I looked him up again and saw that he was on the show from April 1988 - August 1998...Whoops! 

Has anyone seen this? Probably since it seems to be from a year ago. It's a web series with Stacey Winthrop.  Anne Howard makes an appearance as well.  

I do hope that something new can surface soon for everyone. I know how lucky I am that I have all these eps to watch that I've never seen. 

June 1988 now - Betsy just broke Rod's heart. (Of course, he's slept with Meg at this point.) Caleb just arrived at the farm. (A character I've heard about but never seen.) And Dusty left. Sad to see him go; wish there was even more of his early years on the show to see. Nothing else is really happening, which I've learned from this board is what I should expect until the writers strike is over and Marland comes back in October?

Still, I'm happy to have Craig back - he's with Barbara against Lucinda. I like newcomer Kirk Anderson - something seems to be nefarious with him - working for James?  I say that because he seems all too happy to destroy Babs - stole a gown for Lucinda in order to copy it and debut it before Babs can. Hank Elliot is another newcomer but he doesn't do much except stand around as a sounding board for Babs. 

15 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Thanks! I must have missed that scene.

If you want to see it, here it is in all its glory! He starts running at the 25 minute mark of episode 1503. It's some pretty goofy stuff. Plus, they just keep using the same footage over and over again. I couldn't tell if they were trying to make it seem as if he was running laps around the neighborhood or if they were just using the same footage and hoping no one would notice?