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Just got to Season 7. I've seen 5 episodes so far and for once, I agree with what most people on this message board have said. The show is clearly past its expiration date. Sticking with it for now. Why the heck is everyone going to Nevada? Are we gonna spend most of the season there instead of the Tuscany Valley?

'Tis true. I've halfway through the last 15 years of the show and am enjoying the hell out of it! Bryant's death was all last week and it was one of the most heartbreaking and wonderfully acted week of any soap opera ever. I remember someone on here saying that "watching Hunt Block attempt to cry was painful." Um...you should watch those episodes again. Dude has tears running down his cheeks or pooled under his eyes throughout. But complainers gonna complain.

WTF is wrong with you people? Can you not just enjoy a show? Seriously. Like...it's just a soap opera. That ran for over 50 years. What it would take to get y'all to stop complaining about the tiniest minute little details. Yes...I just found out a good friend had her husband leave her and her baby. So I'm taking out my aggression here. But, good God, people. Just watch what you like and let the rest go!!!

Can someone explain to me...if the legacy characters of Lucy, Bryant, Katie, etc. are so disliked, not to mention Craig and Dani upon return...why is there an expectation that with the same writers and casting directors, the quads would be liked any better?

This is exactly what I'm talking about. They were born and then disappeared almost immediately. What is the fascination with them? What is the hold these barely-were-ever-on-screen-babies have over ATWT (I'm assuming early) fandom? They just get brought up so much, you'd think the characters were on the canvas for years like Bryant, Lucy, Katie, Jennifer, Will, Chris, Adam and Casey.

Neither of the actors who played Eddie and Georgia were very good either. And they were both thrown into the show full-throttle. I'll never understand people expecting the Ward quads to return. That was a ridiculous storyline - quadruplets?! - and that's just too many characters with no connection to really anyone unless you bring their parents back, and was too long ago after barely being a part of the show. But I know that we, as fans, have dreams and want what we want. And everyone has their different thing.

I highly enjoyed late '98/'99. David Stenbeck 2&3 were both great but #3 was my fave. He was just creepy (and yet sexy) as hell. I also couldn't stand Eddie and Georgia. You don't have much left of either of them. I did enjoy the late '99/early '00 Chris. I think he was the best out of the lot. (Not that that's saying much. Chris was always cast as "bland handsome white guy" to me.) Katie's story arc is one of my faves from all of daytime. Henry as well. From where they began to where they ended up was a treat for me. I so wish Cassandra Creech could've stayed around longer. Denise was another character with a great redemption story arc. I'm in Aug '01 right now. It's dynamite. I can see why they won the Emmy for that year.

Wow - thank you so very much for providing us with this. I can't wait to dive into them!!

I don't think I've ever heard a negative word about Rae Woodard before. I didn't enjoy her character when she first came on but I quickly warmed to her and thought she took the show to a new level of greatness. The character was a nice contrast to the Ryans. Also, HAPPY 50TH BIRTHDAY TO RYAN'S HOPE! Premiered 50 years ago today!

As I'm also an actor in NYC, I've run into many person from the soaps. I've chatted with Rosemary Prinz a couple of times - this would've been the late '00s. I got the impression she wasn't particularly interested in ever returning to ATWT. So that's another point to be made. We have no idea how many people were asked to return but said, "No thank you," without the "thank you." Not many actors are as gracious as Julianne Moore. I live in New York. I don't know if you're in the surrounding area but, if so, I've get this amazing bridge up for sale. Send me a PM.

I'm up to late June 2001. Damian has convinced Holden and Luke are dead, meanwhile, he's kidnapped them to Malta. At their memorial service, returnees include, Iva, Seth, Caleb, and Cal. I don't buy the line that Goutman/Scheffer didn't care about history. I remember that Duncan comes back when Bonnie gets the worst case of SORAS since Tom Hughes in the '60s. It seems clear that the reason older vets weren't brought back in later years only had to do with the budget, or lack thereof. We've seen so many Alan Locher episodes with the producers and writers of various soaps who all talk about how they were doing the best they could with half the budget they used to have. Too bad the soap opera community can't put blame where blame is due: Proctor and Gamble. They wanted out of the soap opera business and gave less and less money to their remaining soaps in order to help them tank.

It seems like many posters on this board wanna MSOGA - Make Soap Operas Great Again 🤣 The 50s and 60s are over. Storytelling won't go back to that type. The 80s and 90s are over. Storytelling won't go back to that type. I understand the nostalgia and enjoying a certain type of storytelling that was popular when growing up/being 20, 30 yrs old. That's why I watch TV series from the 70s and 80s and not as much current television. But I understand that people's attention spans have changed and therefore storytelling has changed and everything has gotten more expensive and there are more and more projects competing for eyeballs and the big flashy stuff is what makes people look up from their phones 5 seconds before going back to them. We can never go back to before.

I know this board has very strong opinions about Scheffer's reign which run the gamut from brilliant to the nadir of the series. I'm one of the fans. 2001 - 2005 are, imo, the second best years for the series. The first being Marland. As The World Turns won Daytime Emmy Awards for Best Drama Series in '87 and '91. However, it wasn't until Scheffer came along that it won again...in '01 and '03. Plus it won for Best Writing Team in '01, '02, '04, and '05, an award it had never managed to win before and didn't again. When Scheffer left and Passanante was the main head writer (along with various other co-head writers) the show began to seriously tank. However, it wasn't just the writing. The budget was gone. The sets were made to be smaller or destroyed. There was all that weird hand held camera directing for a while. Scenes that were obviously shot in the hallway where the series was filmed. I think '06 - '10 is a roller coaster. There are some storylines I really enjoyed and some that were eye-rolling. Looking in the rearview mirror though, I can see that the actors, writers, directors, and crew were working their best with what money they had.

Put me in the LOVE KMH camp. As a poster alluded to above, her detractors seem to come from people who first experienced the 80s Emily actress. And that's often the case with soaps, myself included. I enjoy the original actor so much that I just never take to the recast. However, KMH played Emily far longer than the original - for almost 20 years - and when she had great material, she was great. I get the sense she didn't like playing the whiny oh-woe-is-me Emily which was all the material she got from about 1996 until she took over the Intruder in late '99/early '00 and got to play a stronger kiss-ass woman who didn't care what anyone thought of her. (Some would call that a bitch but, if a man was in that role, he'd just be called a smart and savvy businessman.) Her relationship with Hal was great. The transformation was done realistically and I thoroughly enjoyed those years the best out of all. Once the writers decided to break up those two, they went back to writing Emily half the time as whiny and pathetic. I preferred when the writers made her stronger.

Actually, all of that is true. Read the news.

Until I met her, I had always thought exactly as you did. That was a role reversal thing. And, more than likely, it was. I still got a pretty anti-gay vibe from her that night. It was just the two of us and a friend of hers so we spent a long time talking all things. Obviously, there's no way for me to know for sure. It was just...a gay's intuition. 😜

If she's ever actually done anything to support gay people, I would be surprised. I had an evening out with her "Martinis with Martha" and, being gay, I definitely got the sense she was merely being polite - and not doing a very good job at that either. I still love watching Lily and Rose though. Lots of artists I enjoy have differing politics to mine. After chatting with her for 2+ hours, I always wondered if the reason they had Lily not react well to Luke being gay, while Holden fully supported him, was because Martha didn't want to support a gay storyline.

I, too, was disappointed in the abrupt ending to the Nazi storyline. I actually liked it. The Celeste Holm/Jonathan Frakes/Anne Archer story didn't work for me. But in Season 5, I really enjoyed Morgan Fairchild's storyline. I also enjoyed Emma and the trucker, Dwayne! He should never have been killed off in the earthquake, imo. He was just as ditzy as she was and with a heart of gold. They would've remained a fun couple for me instead the AWFUL storyline Emma got in Season 6 with the fake psychic and the adopted baby. I'm 3 episodes from finishing Season 6 and, overall, I've enjoyed it. I like Kim Novak and have enjoyed her stint on the show as well as having John Saxon for a season. I think I've said it before on here...I find recast Vicky just as annoying of a character and as bad of an actress as the original Vicky. Susan Sullivan and Jane Wyman continue to shine in every scene they're in. As does Robert Foxworth - they really wrote Chase as an asshat this season and he plays it well.

Thanks! Good to know. I hadn't realized that he'd stepped away from the industry.

Back from where? (Not snarky.) Was he having health problems or something?

I just watched her "reign" a few months ago as I make my way through the series again. She was on for 2, maybe 3, episodes and that was it. It was around the holidays. Sierra came back with her but we saw much more of Sierra. They use Seyfried's photo constantly as the Hong Kong Syndicate is threatening Craig's family for the money he owes them. But, other than that, there's nothing til the Peyton List recast.

Right?! That’s what I mean about the writing not being there. We’ve seen her in 2 episodes (maybe 3) and she’s been nothing but a character Dani turns to when she needs help. we, as an audience, know absolutely nothing about Pamela. Married? Single? Kids? Work? Mob-related? 🤣 Im eager to find out more. And has others have said above, Eva is definitely falling for her family…the much more sane one that doesn’t include her actual mother. I thought she was gonna RIP off those buttons!!!

I know some people are having issues with Cady’s performance. She has a decades long proven track record of some of the best acting on daytime, IMO. Right now, I see an actress making strong choices to help flesh out a character who has NOTHING written on the page. I’m assuming it’s the last minute insert into the story. If weeks of script are written and the writers are attempting to shoehorn in Cady’s character, that’s gonna take some time to right itself.

THIS!!!! although I am enjoying the character of Haley finally standing up for herself. Unfortunately, the actress can’t pull that off either.

Amen!!!