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Even when you know it's coming, the reveal of Stacey as the first Loving Murders victim still packs a punch.

The flip side to the thread about short lived characters with lasting impact.

I nominate Meredith Lord, OLTL. Yes, Larry and Dan remained on the canvas long after her death, but it feels like her place in the show's history and Lord family as a whole kept getting overshadowed as time went on and Victor gained illegitimate children with each new decade.

I'd never seen this until today. Apparently, it's not the first scene between Robin's Heather and Kin, but it's certainly the one that set them up as a couple. And the show's not subtle about it. I'm assuming that Mary's Heather and Kin never interacted?

This weekend marks 40 years since the cancellation announcement.

11 hours ago, carolineg said:

Heroines that died tragically young like Lily on GH or Isabella on Days, just to name a few, tend to have much longer legacies than they would have otherwise too.

I'll add Jenny from AMC to that list. Her ripple effect includes adult Tad, plus Opal, Liza, Jesse and Angie, and all the people they affected. Oddly enough, I think the least impactful person in that pool is Greg.

4 hours ago, Sapounopera said:

Sometimes I wish Marland would have moved ahead with the Kelly-Nola marriage. He told that story with Jack and Ava on Loving. Quinton was fun, but Nola was supposed to be like Delia on Ryan's Hope, all about the drama. She got her happy ending way too soon. 

I also feel like Kelly-Nola could have been Bob & Lisa for the '80s.

1 hour ago, Chris B said:

Maybe Ben would've spared us Danny Waleska? 

Unfortunately, the timeline doesn't work out. Doug Sheehan was on the sitcom Day By Day, which didn't get cancelled until the end of the 1988-89 season. By that time, Sam Behrens was playing Danny.

Now, if it's between the return of Ben vs. Val's brain virus story? I think we'd all choose the former.

Some commentary on DOOL's Dec. 29, 1988, and Dec. 30, 1988, episodes.

I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Emilio & Jennifer ripping off Dirty Dancing.

@dc11786, as always when I read your posts, I think of Whoopi Goldberg in Soapdish. (I mean it as a compliment, if it wasn't obvious.)

2 minutes ago, Wendy said:

(I liked Mike/Carrie way better than Carrie/Austin, but it was hard to argue against those that brought up Mike being a grown adult/widower when Carrie was just a little girl!)

That reminds me of the Who's Who in Salem book (circa 1998) having Ken claim that Mike and Carrie rode their bikes to school together, or something like that.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Strange story.  Kate was already moving in to sexy, cougar villainess territory by then.  I think they hired Victor Webster to romance Krista Allen's Billie and he ended up having better chemistry with Koslow.  Setting up a silly mother/daughter triangle.  They de-aged Nicholas Alamain and the whole thing was completely forgotten, but Victor Webster was super hot lol.

Billie & Nicholas? Interesting. Thank goodness Rinna's Billie never babysat Nicky in 1993.

But yeah, Victor Webster was hotter than Satan's stove in 1999. (I've said it before, 1999-2004 on the NBC soaps helped me realize it wasn't a phase.)

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Kate/Mike would have been a great idea.  I feel like at the time Kate was still a fairly straight laced business woman loyal to Victor.  It would have been fair game in 2000 lol.

This reminds me of Kate's cougar year with Victor Webster's Nicholas Alamain. What the hell was that all about?

On 10/10/2024 at 7:10 PM, DRW50 said:

In a recent interview Lauren Marie Taylor mentioned being screen tested on AMC, AW and OLTL before Loving. Her AMC part was Jenny.

I wonder if the AW and OLTL tests were for specific roles (Diana Frame? Cassie?), or if they just wanted to keep her in the pool of potential actresses.

Also, I've said it before, but I feel like DOOL in the '80s and '90s had an assembly line attitude when it came to their couples. Just keep turning them out.

9 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Yes it seemed a very calculated attempt to create the next super couple of the reformed bad guy, still with a dark side , saved by the woman he loved.

They had much more luck when they tried it with Jack & Jennifer.

@DRW50, am I reaching too far with this one, or does "Charades With Mom" from last night's show feel like a spiritual successor to Phil Hartman's "badass mother-in-law" sketches?

53 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

Love this hyper dramatic courtroom scene..though the thunder was too much. Lisa in full Joan Crawford 1940 mode..gasps from the courtroom, Dorothy should have gotten an award for killing Whit the Wig....

I would pay good money to have the image of Lisa at 14:52 silkscreened on a t-shirt.

1 minute ago, JAS0N47 said:

Just googled Wayne's PC debut date...June 1, 1997. So, he signed with PC in May 1997, a month or so before Days decided to bring back Roman, who started taping sometime in June 1997. Josh's first airdate was 7/18/97.

Thank you! I wasn't sure what came first.

Would someone give me a brief recap of how we ended up with Josh's Roman? Did the show decide to revive the character before or after Wayne signed onto Port Charles?

Viki ... Buchanan

Vicki ... Lawrence

Vicky ... Love

Throwing it out there ... should Robin have been a recast Victoria Hill?

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

As the original account that uploaded several partial ATWT episodes hasn't come back yet I decided to reupload them for the time being. 

Do any of you remember the airdates for these?

 

The 1983 episode is from the week of August 1. I think we determined it was Thursday, Aug. 4. (ETA: I don't think it was outright determined that it was Thursday, Aug. 4, but I assumed so, because the original uploader had all of that day's All My Children episode.)

The 1981 episodes are from the week of December 6.

The 1985 episode is from Monday, March 4.

Everyone's been so eloquent, so I'll just choose a song.

I'm glad these are still around!

5 hours ago, dc11786 said:

Craig Carlson is still credited in the August 9, 1991, episode on YouTube unless the episode credits were added in from another episode. Gottlieb is also not credited though she was reported as doing some behind the scenes work between May and July before her official start date. Raunch, who had previously quit, was suppose to stay on for two months until Linda Gottlieb was free, but he secured Santa Barbara and jumped ship. 

I know when I looked at this earlier in the year, Malone´s announcement was made in the same week as Mary Ryan Munisteri on Loving. I believe we were able to narrow down Munisteri´s start ot the second week of August. Malone´s is probably the same week. 

Thank you