Everything posted by Vee
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I mean, teens absolutely do that. I buy it from Danny.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I don't think it's some big mystery tbh. Not long after this time last year they were going all in on Natalia, trying to put her with Sonny, with Korte/CVE trying to spin the leaked bigot tape as being all about Ava as the one to blame for Natalia's own words. Then Natalia briefly did a 180 as a GLAAD mom and became super tight with Kristina, who she'd been at the throat of for months. This is how FV operates: When an audience doesn't like a pet hire, he usually doubles or triples down trying to push them harder. The Sidwell thing was also obviously intended to give her a major story initially. What I think changed here is not just that the audience response to Natalia was so massively negative, but moreso that MB clearly was not going for it. They never so much as kissed. In a normal circumstance that would've happened by fall '24. It was very unusual and specific. Instead they kept her devotedly at arm's length even while trying to shine up her image until at least a couple months ago, having her as Sonny's medical confidant. It was like FV and GH kept hedging their bets on putting Natalia over with the viewers until the last possible minute. Then the switch flipped and she became regularly humiliated as prep for her exit, lol. And suddenly every character is allowed to say what the audience already thinks of her. tldr: I put it on Mo. He didn't want it, the audience hated her and those two things (and probably some other new favorite hires of FV who pulled his attention, which always happens with most of his pet gets) are what sealed ELR's fate. Which couldn't come soon enough for me.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
If Frank really tries to make Rocco the child of Honorary Homosexual Britt he's about to find the limits of people's tolerance. That's a red line. But in truth I don't think she will be. I think they may tease the plotline but in the end he will stay Lulu and Dante's. Still, it's a gross waste of time.
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DAYS: June 2025 Discussion Thread
This is the first thing I noticed when I started watching again for the John fallout (still going through it, BTW!). My man can barely speak.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
The sick fúcking conservative thing this show has promoted for over a decade, going back to the Carlivati years, is the idea that if a child is grown inside someone's womb or anything weird as shít like that, then the sperm donor, carrier, whatever is somehow inherently valid as this child's parent and is entitled to some aspect of a 'relationship' with them. Let's be very clear: Valentin Cassadine stole Lulu's embryos or some shít and had it fertilized himself to create Charlotte. Lulu had no consent or knowledge in the creation of a child with him, yet Lulu is expected to be deeply connected to this thing. Meanwhile, Britt Westbourne and her mother deliberately stole Lulu and Dante's child, implanted him inside Britt, and raised him in secret for months under a false name as part of a massive conspiracy involving Faison and the Cassadines. Then when they got caught they whined and connived about it for even more months. Lulu should be repulsed by what Valentin did. Britt should have absolutely no connection to Rocco or relevance in his mind or his life. She was never a mother to him. She had no real part in giving him life. And I'm so tired of GH playing this Christofascist-adjacent games. I am convinced the only reason she's still tied to Lulu is to keep the door open for JPS to return at any time and keep him relevant. Frank adores him. In other news, I am glad they finally accepted that Gio is a sexual being and should be undressed most of the time.
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The Politics Thread
I think Mamdani will likely take it. The other options are so loathsome and unpopular. I have issues with some of his policies and the people he's connected to or the language he's used, but I could say that about a lot of politicians and certainly NY ones. He can learn on the job, which AOC certainly did, or he'll collapse. We'll see how he does. Either way the NY press will be gunning for him (and already are) in ways that will make di Blasio's tenure, or that of virtually any past liberal mayor, look like a day at the fair. If he wants to survive he will have to learn fast.
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The Politics Thread
As per the typical NYC electoral situation in my years there I have no deep love for any of the current candidates and any number of issues with them, but there is room to grow. What I do have is a profound loathing for Andrew Cuomo. Rest in piss!
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The Golden Girls 40 years later
I reached the 'Who Cares?' point with shoveling these old ashes at least a decade ago. They put on a wonderful show, did great work and frankly, besides Bea/Betty vs. each other I have my doubts they all despised each other that much vs. what people keep dining out on now. I'm not throwing Rue into it. In any event, I'm over it.
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
Emily O'Brien (Gwen, DAYS/Jana, Y&R) returns in her key voice role in the PS5 video game Death Stranding 2: On the Beach.
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- One Life to Live Tribute Thread
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
A lot of actors (including Erika) had personal and professional issues with Gottlieb. A lot of them did some of their best work under her. And a lot of them were wrong. It happens on daytime. Malone's later comments are a typical product of the time and the pragmatic mindset of what a show (particularly a soap) could be allowed to showcase in the afternoon in the early '90s. I don't particularly judge him for it, as times and network tolerances did change, he did some of the greatest gay storytelling on daytime and kept trying for more LGBT story right to the end of his time at the show in the 2000s. I feel more strongly about them dropping the ball on Mia Korf's Blair today, even though she did leave by choice to do a major play (which flopped spectacularly) and even though I loved KDP's Blair dearly for many years. I do hope the remainder of fall '91 goes up in full soon.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
It was convenient for the network for the same reason people are re-litigating her book, frankly. Zimmer has always been an outsize, oversharing and at times obnoxious personality, with the soap press, in her book, everywhere. But she always gave 200% onscreen even when Rauch's Reva drove me up the wall, and I at least respected that even when I often found her unwatchable in a certain era. I respected her much more when I saw her classic work, and the work she put out with zero glamour and trappings or seemingly any vanity in Peapack. Or her work on OLTL. They knew some people would believe anything of Zimmer based on how much she shoots her mouth off - 'Kim Zimmer's greed got Jerry verDorn fired.' Which is bullshít, and she was right to say so.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I've said it before but Chad was very strong in his early years, particularly when the Guza daily team was still in place. Even in his first five years he was, I felt, underrated. He got bored and tired (like most vets on the show, especially men who were really not written for outside of Sonny or Frank's favorites) and it showed. He should've left years ago if he wanted to break out, but I am glad he left for the sake of the character. I also think that if Chad hadn't indicated he wanted to stay away longer than a few months FV would've foolishly held the role open out of the same kind of loyalty that drives other behavior.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I've been saying it for years! And yes, every person under 50 on this show has way too many kids. It's this team's go-to to kill time and fill a year: More babies.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Who on God's cursed earth is that? This looks sadder and weirder than Kristin Minter in the mid-2000s.
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GH: June 2025 Spoilers
The acting is actually pretty bad, lol. JK could only help that role, that guy is one of the worst actors on the show. I do think it's a waste to get rid of Cody, whose promise they keep squandering at every turn. But I'm not terribly surprised if so.
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GH: June 2025 Spoilers
Or they're dumping him slow, like most times anyone is dropped to recurring on a soap opera. Assuming the best of this show at all times is a fool's game.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Supposedly something TG pushed for, and then pushed again when Ron Carlivati tried to reverse it upon arrival in '12 (hence the very quick 180 where Robert briefly believed Ethan to be his son after all before leaving town). I suspect had it been left to Guza II, they would've made Ethan Robert and Holly's in the first place. I do think Cody and Ava could work for awhile, as do Ric and Ava. I also think Elizabeth could use Cody for a fling, but he plugs in a lot of places and with many characters, yes even Tracy. The boring options (Sasha, Molly) seem to be what the show prefers. I didn't hate Nathan Parsons. I think he worked hard despite being limited. But he was an embarrassing spare part once they got Jonathan back, and the blood connection was not necessary. And yeah, his best chemistry was with two non-options (Johnny and underage Kristina) the show wasn't going to go for. If he ever needs money I wouldn't necessarily hate him or a good recast coming back, but I would probably still make him Scorpio's lol.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
At this rate we're going to find out Sasha is distantly related to the Hardys too just to keep finding ways to keep her bedded into the deep canvas without having to actually do anything.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
It is ridiculous.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I will never get over watching Models Inc where Brian Gaskill played the early-mid 20s fashion exec son of Linda Gray. He gets fired from the show, turns up maybe six months later on AMC at the damn Pine Valley High as Bobby Warner hanging out in a letterman's jacket opening some lockers, looking like Steve Buscemi on 30 Rock. I was about 15 and lost my mind. I was used to soap teens/tweens being Robin, Lucky, Jessica Buchanan, etc. so I'd never seen them try that with 'teens' on soaps at that early viewing age lol
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I thought Pam Long at OLTL could've worked solo. But it was JFP's micromanaged show and JFP's favorites being spotlit. After Long's brief tenure (where she did talk about working on the disastrous fake DID story for Roger Howarth), JFP went without a HW for almost a year before being forced to hire McTavish. I will say some of the Edmund/Cassie sex scenes under Conboy(?) were some of the kinkiest I'd ever seen on daytime, then or since. It was crazy seeing DAM of all people moaning onscreen about how Cassie was 'bringing out the bad boy in me.' That period was sort of the apex moment for soaps pushing the envelope, and they backed off after the Super Bowl.