Vee

For me it was less about Janet herself and more about how at the time there seemed to be a ton of raunchy public stunts at the MTV Awards, etc. to keep viewership up and eyes on folks pre-Twitter, and frankly neither Timberlake nor Janet seemed above it around then. It seemed of a piece with a lot of other lame look-at-me stunts of the period. But it turned out to be an honest mistake. Even when I wasn't sure, I never liked how she was treated while JT got off. And that clip of Julie - wow. Not sure how The Talk weathers this.

Entirely too glued to the Reva post-partum storyline on YouTube. Weren't Curlee and Demorest involved in HW work at this time with Long, or was it all Long? Why they never brought Samantha Marler back is beyond me. I don't dislike the actress. I loved Chris Pennock on Dark Shadows and he seems a decent Justin recast, but they never seemed interested in this side of Phillip's family for long. I actually don't think Beth Chamberlin is bad as the 'normal', pre-Rauch pre-hyper neurotic Beth. She clicks well in light humor scenes with Phillip and Rick, though she definitely has a more refined Barbara Hershey vibe. But I also warmed up to her a lot in GL's last years. I've seen a fair amount of Kimberly Simms' Mindy with Alex, Roger and Nick over the years but never with the Four Musketeers before - it's a little strange for me so far. Hot take: If GL came back today on streaming I would try to land Sherry Stringfield as Blake. She seems game for anything work-wise and even after all these years, I just find any other Blake far more interesting than Liz Keifer.

I liked Cecily, but I can't remember a single thing about her second stint (the only one I saw) other than some dumb computer dating subplot. She made zero impact.

I hate to say it, but I personally believed at the time that it was an intentional stunt. I had expected something like that. I loved Janet growing up - worshipped her - but I thought her albums had gotten (and continued to be after the Super Bowl) increasingly desperate after the failure of The Velvet Rope, an album I loved. She went light and tacky afterwards - I didn't need fifteen tracks about her lady parts interspersed with five different "interludes". That being said, today it seems clear it was an accident, and I never liked that she was bashed and ostracized while Justin was absolved. So I'm glad to see it made official.

This one's for you, @DRW50:

Mark Lawson (Brody, OLTL) stands with many other soap stars behind Geoffrey Owens:

Some of the public will care.

Lindsey Graham is going all the way:

Political showmanship or not, it is the right thing for him and all of them to do. I'm very proud. Between this and the NYT leaks, Collins and others have run out of room to maneuver on Kavanaugh.

I'm just amazed he is being ousted at all. I thought he and CBS were determined to try and ride it out.

The NYT has many, many issues but the NYT didn't write this editorial. However self-serving, the author won't remain hidden for long. What matters most IMO is we're in an unprecedented situation where the president's senior staff are now openly invoking the 25th Amendment and removing him "one way or another" in one of the biggest press in the nation. And if you think it does nothing you're wrong, because Trump has been in even more freefall numbers-wise since McCain. Eventually, saying any public statement "just helps him" is ultimately self-defeating and untrue. It's I Am Spartacus time:

Boom. There goes Susan Collins' fig leaf:

The thing is, things are changing. He's at 36% today.

Why do you dislike a woman you've never met so much? We're talking about fictional storylines on a fictional TV show.

I don't think he was being malicious, either. But Brown clearly finds him responsible or culpable for something.

Oh, it's worth a read. They invoke the 25th Amendment and say Trump's administration will end "one way or another." It's self-serving rationalization, but it's still honestly shocking and history in the making.

If this is your criteria for posting and speaking to literally anyone on this forum I wish you the best of luck at your table for one. This is not going to work out for you.

SoapNet had message boards? Okay. Reva is unforgettable as is her heyday. Her bad OTT stories sprinkled through her last ten years? Not so much. Are you really that new to this forum? No one and nothing is sacred. We don't pretend stuff we've thought was shít is spun gold.