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BLQ is aged up, boring and matronly enough with Setton in the role, and she should be fired and recast if this issue is not going to change. Giving her an adult kid desexualizes both Brook Lynn and Dante even more and ages them up too much when they are still relatively young, viable leads. But it's happened, unfortunately. I'd still undo it if I could. I have no interest in Gio in the mob. I do think him turning into a partying club kid/hedonist or playboy to lash out would work for a time. As for Finn, I would put nothing past Frank to try to get him and Violet back on the show lol.

Because it's bad.

A good thread on the odious Alex Thompson, who finally got the book deal this week the 'boring' Biden era denied him. The only solace I have is knowing he will someday be out on his ass and out of favor again. Today's horrific Bezos news at the Post I will leave for someone else to cover. I can only stomach so much in one day, and I have very limited mental bandwith for our current shitshow.

I'm still not sure about Dani's pink Big Brother house couch.

Allegedly, cause of death was not related to her transplant. Michelle frankly hadn't seemed well for many years. Her bizarre manner of posting msgs on social media (with lots of stop/start sentences) always unsettled me. It's a tragic loss of a very talented young woman, and I hope she's at peace.

I have been saying it will be Bill/Dani (Dani/Bill?) together again at some point.

I agree. She fit like a glove. What happened to Daniel Reubens between when he got involved with Doreen (in summer of '90, I think) and the end of the show?

I find her astonishingly boring. Frankly even the GH girls have more spark (especially since Willow began porking Drew). But I get why they didn't hire a major daytime vet, like Eden Riegel who I'd mentioned. Plus they seem to be going for a lot of new ATL talent. I just hope they recast (or dump both characters) unless she suddenly turns around and amazes me.

Maybe this is a regional thing. I'm in the US and it absolutely shows up as free on Prime for me on my computer.

I think Malone teased him with both Blairs, as well as of course playing him with Angela Holliday (or as Cord called her 'Ain-gela') and maybe even Luna briefly. But I agree he never got a firm handle on Cord for A-story, which is too bad. I have heard that before Todd Cord was considered as the endgame for KDP's Blair. Maybe it would've worked. But yes, John Loprieno is and was so underrated.

I've seen the Maggie Vega they ended up with after Santiago passed. It's not hard to realize why that died.

LMAO I just noticed that. Maybe they renewed their vows? I'll take my cut, Michele Val Jean.

It is wild that they actually brought on a lovely girl to play Amy, Penny Hughes' long-forgotten Asian daughter in this England storyline with Frannie and (AFAIK) did not bring her back to Oakale or put her on contract. It's such an obvious move. I wish more of this key period was available; this is where the uploads for '86/'87 get thready for awhile.

Did Dr. Ted clock the Thomases at the hospital elevator? They were much better at home than in that painful meet cute at the hospital explaining who they are and what they do. Andre did not have to come back to the blindingly white hospital hub just to have the same exact scene with Ashley as yesterday, followed by the duty nurse giving more exposition lol. Martin is very cute, but he didn't exactly put over much of his often clunky dialogue. The civil rights discussion with Vernon was worthwhile but Martin continues to approach scenes as though he is informing Southwest passengers where the emergency exits of the airplane are. Of course, most of his dialogue was pure exposition. So far he's more wooden than Mike Manning, but hopefully the actor can find a groove. Nor did they need to keep talking about Martin's mysterious dreams vs. just showing one (as AMC 2.0 did early on with Celia Fitzgerald, whose mystery will sadly never be solved). The rest of the show flowed better, was more organic dialogue-wise and performance overall. Karla and Tunie got much stronger dialogue today and KM had nuance for me. Daphnee carried as mentioned and her dialogue with her husband and poor Hayley, while at times explaining plot, still felt much more organic and natural than Day 1. Solid enough for me. I did crack up when Hayley doffs her leopard print coat to reveal a transparent titties-out top for work. They may be dressing her as the homewrecker but to their credit so far she is not being written as one.

Once again the Token Whites tank a segment with the worst expository dialogue of the day - talking to Great Value Laura Wright as her mom about how hard she worked to provide for her, here in this hospital that we are currently standing in. Jen Jacob is flat but the introductions of the Thomases at the hospital were also painful. I'll be that guy: If Eden Riegel was a little younger (and she still looks it) they shoulda got her to play Nurse Ashley. Viewers Black, white and plaid would follow that woman anywhere. But she's a big enough name that she'd overshadow some of the new cast, so I get it.

I am mid-show. Nicole's potentially evil husband is insanely hot and very, very good with her onscreen. They both make expository dialogue sing a lot better than Day 1 (and the dialogue itself is better, in almost every segment so far except Martin giving Epcot Center greeter while talking with his grandfather). If Dr. Ted turns out to be the next Carnation Killer, Jingles the Clown or the Carver from nip/tuck I would snap him up to play a slightly younger Justus Ward on GH (opposite Brook Kerr's Portia) before his last CBS check cleared. The Dani/Anita scenes are also quite good, and better for both of them than yesterday.

Don't go there with me, Errol! I'd just gotten over Daphnee not heading up OLTL 3.0 with Dan Gauthier!

If Smitty dies in a Ted Brent car crash in the first 13 weeks I'll never stop laughing. He's cute though.

Oh, she gave me plenty from the jump. Daphnee has always had a core of real integrity and intelligence as well as grit, which served her very well with a very resolute character on OLTL who had previously been diminished and demeaned under past recasts. Again, I don't think the Kathryn Hays/Kim Hughes comparison is far off. I'll cover the rest of the ep in a bit but I am not going to jump to any conclusions on the gays hugging, lol. They still let the boring lesbians, etc. kiss on Y&R AFAIK and they certainly did with Luke and Noah's tiresome stories on ATWT years ago. I don't think we're going back to the Matt Fielding era here, and I think P&G/CBS are smart enough to know the pushback they'll get if they tried while touting all their progressive bonafides during the current media blitz. As for the teen kids, while I still think many of both the str8 and gay couples on the show are too young for so many older kids they're just leaning into the obvious celeb trope of famous gay couples adopting 2.5 children.

As she noted in the specials, Daphnee went out for Dani but the role was always earmarked for Karla by MVJ IIRC. I don't have a problem with it. As many of us have noted, Daphnee comes off like she has already been running this show (with the elders) like a young Kathryn Hays for ten years.

You get a good idea of why longtime viewers might've been put out with the big change in the show - I think the very obvious riff on Steven Soderbergh's then-recent sex, lies and videotape in the 9/24/91 episode, with Megan and "Heinrich"/Cain filming each other on videotape in confessionals, is inspired, introspective and well done and clearly comes from a producer immersed in Hollywood, but you also have to imagine veteran viewers are kind of wondering wtf is going on here with Megan and this guy who's back again wearing a fake mustache and muttonchops. But the show had also been in a malaise already for awhile at this point pre-Gottlieb, so I can't fault them for breaking the mold as I think the early changes (Luna and Tina's mischief, the country club subplot with Sheila, Jason/Stephanie/Kevin/Lee Ann, Bo's "Haunting of Sarah" etc.) are all pretty good. I do wonder if Gottlieb was hedging her bets on Jessica Tuck renewing here. Yes, they had clearly already begun writing Megan's lupus into the show as early as late August at Hunter and Andy's wedding (before Malone's name was officially on it) but you get the sense they were also chemtesting her and Christopher Cousins as well as obviously her and Bob Krimmer. Interesting to see Cassie's first meeting with Andrew too. IIRC they did not hit on putting them together until mid-'92, after their initial plans for Andrew (supposedly the Maggie Vega character, intended for Saundra Santiago who backed out) flopped and they realized RK and LB had chemistry. Cord's sudden massive dose of chauvinism is jarring in these episodes, but also not exactly alien to the show after the Rauch years. It's nice to have it addressed, particularly in Cord's own fantasy sequence (among Malone's first of many, many, many I think?) where he imagines himself as Ward Cleaver with Tina as the doting wife. I don't think it needed to go on for maybe 5+ minutes and end with Cord having learned nothing and stepping up hard on Luna. Yes, Loprieno had most likely given his notice by now but this stuff could be softer. I assume Cord will get his comeuppance and reconcile with Tina shortly, though I also know Mia Korf's Blair and her targeting Cord is just around the corner. Very weird to see the Gottlieb-era canvas shaping up in the old Llanfair set. @DRW50 would know better than me but the old foyer always looks exactly like the Old House from Dark Shadows to me. I assume it can't be the same given OLTL was on-air before DS was off, but IIRC many DS BTS personnel (Henry Kaplan, Gordon Russell, Sam Hall, etc.) went on to various ABC shows. Pretty sure I have an idea of what Asa is freaking out about in his private papers from Du Ann. It is very strange still to see Asa and Renee talking about Little Al as their grandson, who NuMax basically left to them despite feuding with Asa - and Asa still calling Max his 'son' despite knowing the truth and having this obsession challenged by Renee, Cord, etc. since the writing change. As I noted before, Asa and Max's love/hate relationship would continue to circle each other (most pointedly with the tired JFP remake of this storyline) until the end of their tenures in town, and beyond the end of Asa's life - Max's final return to the show comes for Asa's funeral. But it's interesting that Cain would later almost take up part of this mantle in Asa's world, IIRC - Cain is fascinated with Asa now re: his grilling of Megan, and later I believe he tries to or succeeds in getting close to him for a time, being another version of Asa's protege and surrogate corporate tycoon son a la Max. Anyway, I didn't realize JdP is back so soon- I think he is maybe only a week or two away, less than 3 weeks since Nicholas Walker's hammy final airdate on the start of Malone's first full week (9/16).

I was not a fan of KM's work on GL and I thought what little I saw of her on B&B was mid, but I haven't seen much. I was pleased with her yesterday, but it's too soon to know. Dani is a very outsize character so far. I don't think she's incapable of showing nuance.

Tamara Tunie confirms she will sing on the show.

This I have to know about but it's totally the wrong thread, lol.

Incredibly exciting to have an all-new, very different soap to look forward to daily, however it turns out. Exploring other famous periods like ATWT '86, or rarities like GL/GH in the '60s, or the long-lost Linda Gottlieb/Michael Malone handover on OLTL in 1991 has been wonderful recently, but those are all bygone times. To have something totally new for soaps that you also feel the creatives actually have a sense in pride in is the rarest thing of all today.