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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
Jill was supposed to be John's young wife. Brenda Dickson and Jess Walton are 16 years younger than Jerry Douglas. Eric Braeden has 15 years on MTS, 18 years on Eileen Davidson, 19 years on Signy Coleman, 29 years on Sharon Case and 31 years on Raya Meddine. Peter Bergman is 36 years older than Courtney Hope. That's one of the biggest age gaps they've ever had.
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
It's such a bizarre relationship in general. The whole relationship is them sitting in the coffee shop talking about something they just did and how cool it was. They went ice skating, bought a car... oh, and once they opened the scene with lipstick on him so they must have kissed! Then she brought him a wrinkly sample shirt yesterday and he was excited, like he's not a millionaire executive....
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
That's how she plays it and I can't tell if it's intentional or bad acting lol. It could have worked to have him play a charming man and then slowly reveal his nature. My biggest advice to JG would be: SHOW, DON'T TELL. He spent months having characters tell us this guy was Ruthless and sooooo scary. It's lazy writing. It's supposed to give him insta-vet status so we understand that he's Victor level because we were TOLD. Why not portray some nuances and let us decide for ourselves?
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
I don't know if you watched them yet, but the marriage therapy scenes were infuriating... turning it around as if Rey is the one carrying baggage and is too possessive. Why didn't the therapist ever ask Sharon why she feels the need to maintain a relationship with a man who stole her baby?!
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
I try to keep up with the wonderful soaps of yesterday blog from @will81 which catalogues 80s soap columns, and I've seen multiple articles about Beth that are basically saying she's not as frumpy in real life as she is on the show, that they made her wear padding and baggier clothes, and she just can't wait until the day they let her wear more makeup and be her true more attractive self (and indeed, she did look fantastic later in the 80s). It's sad, not so much the storyline about Traci's weight, which was great, but that someone - either she, her publicist, or the show - felt that it was so important to make it known that she didn't really look that in real life. As for AL, I wonder if it was a combination of both things that got her let go. They needed to shoehorn Sursok somehow, AL had gained weight, the character was a brunette of similar age, and there you go. I didn't even care that they killed off Sursok, but hate that we had to lose the character of Colleen forever. What a waste. AL was really good.
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
In those scenes where she did her presentation to Ashland she was just so bad. Couldn't pull off either the business part or the flirting. It just looked goofy. I always thought it would play to her acting style if they wrote Victoria as developing anxiety or an eating disorder. She has kind of a nervous energy. It would work in her history of sex therapy dating back to Ryan and the more recent JT abuse stuff not to mention all the Billy BS over the years. If we're supposed to buy her as the superwoman who runs an international conglomerate, is a romantic heroine, and an involved mom, she's just not believable.
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
When I watch old clips I'm constantly thinking "wow, they would never have gone with that choice today!" Remember when KSJ adlibbed that line "you're gonna wish you'd never messed with this black man" when Neil was confronting Kevin? KSJ talked about Greg Rikaart being shocked because it wasn't in the script, but they left it in and today I'm sure they would have cut it. They are so afraid now to lose any little bit of their audience to anything "controversial." They were even afraid to have Chance say the word "period" when he was talking to Abby about her not being pregnant. He literally said "aren't you on your ---" and they cut away before he said it, I was laughing so hard, like it's not 1950. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy because the show is so stale and boring that there's no new viewers coming in or old ones coming back, so they have to fight even harder to keep the little audience that's left, so they become even more afraid to do anything that might offend anyone...
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
Traci lost her daughter (who was Lily's best friend) and Lily lost her mom. I haven't seen the scenes yet but Traci giving Lily advice always made sense to me. As far as Traci's history, it's one of the cleanest of any soap character, she's only been married a couple of times and hasn't done anything too crazy (and hasn't had any storyline in like 20 years so plenty of time for reflection).
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Y&R: Old Articles
It's really funny when Nina jokes about Phillip calling Katie for a date, cause he actually did end up dating Chloe and Nina hated that. Meanwhile Abby won't be born for almost another 10 years but now they're all kind of the same age! It's like the JT becoming an abuser storyline. Does a new writer have the right to have a character do something evil that is totally out of character for them after the character has been established for many years? At least they gave JT a tumor as an excuse. I can't help but still like the Paul from the 80s and 90s. I was thinking it felt like an ABC show too. What I had forgotten is that he's mad at her for dating Michael - another man who tried to rape her (and came really close, like he was literally on top of her and PAUL was the one who saved her). So she is being raped by a man who is upset she wants to be with a scumbag who tried to rape her... that was another horrible story. Christine forgiving Michael was one thing but having her go into practice with him was a huge stretch, and then I thought they'd never go there with them having a romantic relationship.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Yes, that's the one. I'm hoping it's not too much to ask if one of the angels with access to videoland could repost episodes 503 and 588? Those episodes had music in them and the versions in the vault come from the Amy Silence channel. YouTube muted the songs, so the versions downloaded from there are muted. We do have the German, but it would be nice having the full episode in English direct from the source, if it's at all possible.
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I don't think Rick Daros and Eve met until 1984 though, when Cole was already a child? Anyway, here's another batch of videos from the Y&R Anonymous Angel to kick off the week! They are in the vault too. 2/19/96 Nick & Sharon's wedding, Soap Classics version (in vault only) July 4, 2001 Ryan & Victoria clipfest. The individual clips are uploaded in the vault as well. July 10, 2001 November 2, 2001 - Clip Tricia takes Victor to bed November 27, 2001 - Clip Ryan's Death
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Y&R: Old Articles
I'm like this too. I'm currently stopped at 1988 cause I'm hoping more will pop up. I actually have not even watched a lot of the things I've uploaded yet. It's the year before I started watching, so it's in that sweet spot of stuff I've yet to watch and have never seen, other than scenes like the Masquerade ball. Thank you so much YRFan23! Also, someone has been uploading a ton of 1998 and 1999 videos to the vault. Thank you to this person as well
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Y&R March 2021 Discussion Thread
They lack basic sets. Hospital is replaced by the tiny waiting room and exam room in Nate's clinic. Courthouse scenes are replaced by receiving texts from their lawyers and meeting with their lawyers in the coffeehouse. They don't even use a conference room anymore; Theo's negotiation with the Abbots took place in their living room. They also dumped Tessa and Mariah's tiny apartment. From that to some scenes on the tiny plane set while Tessa was on tour (might've been pre-COVID), and now if they're seen it's at Sharon's house.
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News & Gossip from the mid-1980s per The Soaps of Yesterday
Yes! How many of them start out with "settle a bet for me..." These 80s ones are MUCH snarkier than the Soap Opera Digest ones I'm used to. I don't have it handy, but there was one where the question is whether Nola's daughter was mute in real life, and how does the child actress manage not to talk when the writer's own daughter babbles at that age. And the answer ripped her apart! Definitely comes off as someone creating a strawman of "ignorant 50s housewife" and then having fun beating up on it.
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Y&R: Old Articles
Another batch from the Anon Angel. This time mostly clips. 2002 Daytime Emmys - Michael Bolton presents Y&R montage No More Drama March 4, 2002 Victor remembers Julia & Nikki I posted that Christmas clip already Jeanne Cooper - CBS Scrapbook 2002 Y&R Bloopers John McCook & Melody Thomas Scott Behind the Scenes at CBS Television City Studio - I like the banter between them!
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