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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
Nikki has been an "executive" the way Jill was an executive when she first got divorced, except Jill actually learned the business and had a knack for it. We actually saw Jill in her office brainstorming. We've never really seen Nikki do anything that indicates she has the experience to do anything other than sit in an office whild holding a title.
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
Another one of their famous late 2000s "art" stories I completely blanked on 😅
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
What scene was that, I don't remember it. I'm behind and I almost want to watch now to see how uninteresting it is, if that makes sense.
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Bold and Beautiful August 2021 Discussion
You stole my line that they should just put the vaccine into their lip injections. 😄
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
I didn't know they were such good friends. Haley played Abby from 2008-2010 so maybe they know each other from Y&R. Wikipedia says Camryn was making brief appearances then.
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Bold and Beautiful August 2021 Discussion
I hope that wasn't just a personal visit!
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Bold and Beautiful August 2021 Discussion
That would make perfect sense... have them connection on social media and text each other, forming a bond, and since he doesn't know what Sheila looks like, it would work. She knows it's his wedding day and then shows up to surprise him and he stands by her. But that would involve planning and not making up storylines at the last second...
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Hmm, not sure. There's some discussion here. B&B was preempted Jan 24, 1995. https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/c/SkPaEKVmXp0/m/KBp26F1h-4gJ Looks like it did air Jan 25, but not at its usual time: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/c/U6vEEfN0m4E/m/uoPKPT8gX9kJ
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Thanks! Looks awesome. I looked into the OJ dates a bit since you mentioned that... what I have tracks pretty well with yours, except there was a show on July 11, 1994 https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/O-4q-J_fUSA/m/zZEeBzT-62MJ https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/bf0R8Orwig0/m/N3yidZqO8y0J
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
I'm a week behind, so maybe something happened in the meantime, but I thought the same. She's accused of a financial crime, surely she'd get out on bail and be able to take care of her son. Or are we supposed to believe that she was tried and convicted offscreen and is just in prison indefinitely now? Lol.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
@JellyBeanthat spreadsheet is so SLICK, I can't believe you color coordinated and put the logo too, that looks so professional! I would love if you uploaded it to the vault. I have asked about this before and the problem with imdb is that there were a lot of pre-emptions during the summer of 1987 for the Iran-Contra Hearings, so that sort of messes up the dates and episode numbers from the start. I know a lot of people have tried but I don't think there is a fully confirmed list out there. Even for Y&R, we only have estimates for the dates (check out here, as of episode #3597: http://www.feuxdelamour.com/guide.pdf ) and of course we don't know if they were always preempted on the same days. If you check out the Cancelled Soaps section here, there's a thread where someone has been doing this for ATWT: https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/56094-as-the-world-turns-full-episode-list/ Another resource is the Bell Script Archive which lists the dates and episode numbers on the scripts (I think this is how the Y&R guide was compiled) as of episode #83: http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/ucla/pasc/wjbell.pdf Those may be off due to unplanned news preemptions, but at least would account for planned sports and holiday preemptions. There are some episodes on archive.org if you search "bold beautiful 1987" "bold beautiful 1988" etc that can be used to compare against the episode #s in the vault to get a few milestones that are known to be correct. Episodes with commercials can be cross-referenced against TV listings for the shows advertised or compared to old recaps on Usenet (after 1990). The poster who does it for ATWT puts a little note next to the dates that are confirmed and the source, which is helpful. If you upload to the vault, then maybe everyone could colloborate with what they know, or maybe a separate thread would be better.
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Y&R: Old Articles
It's a stereotype in US television. Massage is associated with Swedish massage and they think all Swedes are named "Sven." Here is Phyllis doing an accent when giving Danny a massage in 1995: You're welcome! I have so many random clips I saved from YouTube over the years, but it's hard figuring out the dates. I'm grateful to the person who posted all those 1996 German episodes and to the person who uploaded those "Who Shot Victor" clips, which are almost complete as far as the Newman family scenes. It makes it easier to figure out the dates. I like to watch in order to, so its kind of an art watching trying to figure out the date without really getting into the clips! I have more from that storyline that are not dated yet. If you want I can upload them in a batch and maybe you or anyone else who wants to pitch in could help date them? PM or email me if you want That's the thing, when we look back at the 90s "lulls" in the show, there usually is at least one excellent storyline and the rest of the stories are solid. That storyline was as good as it gets. Olivia was always a difficult person, not a saint, but you felt so much for her because the stakes were so high. I never really liked Nathan, I thought he was pretty mean to her in a tough love kind of way when she was sick (like in the 1994 primetime ep). But to be fair I've not watched 1988-1992 yet and that's probably when he was at his best.
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Sorry to reply to this conversation so late but wanted to reply to @AlexGrimaldi and share some more Italian clippings from Y&R. I have seen some clips up to at least March 1986 in Italian (Jill's press conference and Lauren being saved from being buried alive), so then if they skipped the rest of 1986, 1987, 1988, that is strange since those are the years that the show started in France and Germany (and we have the German episodes almost complete through mid-February 1988). I wonder if they did that to catch up Italy to the rest of Europe? I agree that replacing Ashley, Jill, and Jack all at once would be a lot to take. Here's a clip of March 1986. I have also heard that Sony's licensing fee is high, so that may be why Y&R isn't broadcast is as many countries nor has streaming options like B&B. I wonder if it confused some people (when they were using pop music as the theme song) when Nadia's Theme would play during the saddest and most important scenes. I guess they thought it was just another sad music cue. I have never seen those openings other than "I Don't Wanna Fight." Cool! I didn't know that. Thanks! I saw a new Italian clip as well. It's from June 1991. Here are some Italian clippings that I have. They do make quite a few mistakes (a picture of Janice Lynde when they name Victoria Mallory). November 6, 1985 (Italian dates) June 27, 1987 August 22, 1987 October 3, 1987 April 16, 1994 (talking about the Grand Ball - clearly the photo of Nikki is way too old) 1995 article about the name switch to "Amarsi" and Sheila's past
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
I'm sorry to hear that and that this brings sad memories for you. Thank you for sharing the posts about Jess Walton's husband. Heartbroken for her.
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
LMAO too accurate.
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Bold and Beautiful August 2021 Discussion
So apparently Steffy never told Finn until today that her mother was premused dead for years during her childhood lol. And when he was all shocked about Sheila's crimes, I wonder if he is aware that Steffy has killed a couple of her cousins, or tried... I love that Sheila's back but the story is very forced. Feels like it was built around JMW as the star of the show. It's not organic. I wish they would have had Thomas become involved with one of Sheila's existing daughters. Even Daisy, who did not work on Y&R, could have been recast for B&B. The idea of Thomas involved with a chick who is even crazier than he is, and then having him go against Sheila, would be far more interesting than involving her with bland Steffy and Finn.
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Y&R August 2021 Discussion Thread
I hope they don't make Sally Phyllis' daughter. That would too GH. They should be able to write conflict without doing that. I'm still not getting what was so awful that Sally did. I'm not a fan of hers (I was probably the only person who was happy she was off B&B). She got Summer a really great job offer? That Summer easily could have turned down? And also if Sally had the connections to do that, and has been hoping for a new start, why didn't she just take that job herself? There's nothing keeping her in GC. The whole story is a flop as usual.