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David Fury was not my favorite writer on that show. I would even say he was the weakest so I was worried about how it would be written. So I was happy to see that he did Cordelia Chase justice. She...FIT. Exactly for the reasons you said. Which is why she probably shouldn't have been in Season 5. lol. But there is not a frame of camera in that episode that looked at Charisma and was not stunning. She gave look after look after look. And like I said, that ending HIT. So it was definitely a case of writing, directing, and acting coming together to make something special. Yes with older eyes, I can see the burnt-out. Even when I was younger, I was thinking he's so involved with 3...cuz FIREFLY was in the mix...shows...shouldn't he get some rest? And that does show in Season 6/7 of BUFFY (though I liked season 6 better than season 7 though the coda/shoutout at the end of the first episode of Season 7 was great). And while I still love some good Buffyspeak and speak it well...times do change. That is great to hear about J. I still do not know all of who has tweeted...I feel like just about everyone has in support except for...Alyson and/or Alexis?...but it is VERY clear that Charisma was loved on both of her sets. And yes, she and David have always seem to have a great professional relationship so good to see that that extends to their non-working life. If Joss did something to Gal...just thinking it makes me see red. Pun...unintended.

I don't know if I would say together, but following the Dr. Phil storm out, he did do a follow up episode if I'm not mistaken to deal with his demons. Seem in a better place the last few years. @Cat So you never saw S5 YOU'RE WELCOME? That was prime Cordelia Chase...and regardless of the situation...very well done IMHO. Charisma post-baby body was perfection and gave new meaning after Season 4 to the phrase revenge body. That said...I've been meaning to step in here when this dropped a week ago and a friend of mine who became a big fan of BUFFY and knew I was one dropped the tweets on me. As a ANGEL fan, I had heard about what happened during Season 4. It was nice to FINALLY have it confirmed. Wow. It was a case for me of you don't know what you got until it's gone and Charisma Carpenter was that for me. Loved her in the shows and how she is one of the few characters that got a complete arc. I loved her in VERONICA MARS even if it was a bit of typecasting. And my aforementioned friend knew me well enough to know I would want to know of any new things she was in in case I missed it (I'm binging the CW show PANDORA partly cuz she makes an appearance I heard). As a fan, yeah it hurts. But I guess for me I am much much older now than I was then. Buffy and Angel I was in high school and leaving for college. I have fun memories. But over the years, I definitely don't have Joss on a pedestal like I used to. He is too messy and problematic. So hearing confirmed what he did on Angel Season 4 which could have been a great season...kinda is...is disgusting. Does not take away from my love of ANGEL. Or DOLLHOUSE. Or FIREFLY. Not sure if I could sit through BUFFY at the moment. But it's good I can seperate his work from the man. I loved Charisma's statement and why she did it. I love that so many of the cast have come out to support. And I hope nothing, but the best for all of them. Because it is a brave and the RIGHT thing to do. And as for Joss? I feel something big is coming and his days are numbered.

Great sandwich to start off my morning.

Bye, Lola.

OOoooo....good to hear. I'm behind, but CW has already started to give hints of crazy Annie Dutton at the start of the month so I look forward to more.

Same. And awwwwww at all the ABBA love. Stumbled on this on Twitter last night...and I do want to support the Kpop fans given how much HE#$ they gave to the Orange One... Same. And awwwwww at all the ABBA love. Stumbled on this on Twitter last night...and I do want to support the Kpop fans given how much HE#$ they gave to the Orange One...

You're welcome @Gray Bunny. The name. Her tagline. It just fits her so well. Like I said from Episode 1...she is everything Erika Jayne WISHED she could be when she does icy. And the money to back it up. And I agree with @Soaplovers. She would make a better villain going forward. And Jen can go the S2 Camille Grammar route. Meanwhile...that tea on Chicago!!! So He's going to try AGAIN with it? I would be down for that. Whether it is a spinoff of Tinsley and Dale or a new cast with the city vs suburbs angle. It would be cool. I agree with you and Soaplovers again. I agree as well. It's akin to Kenya leaving after Season 10 in a good place with her man and her baby on the way a la a happy ending to her thoroughline throughout (having a family). And we see how that turned out. I soooo want to see the binder. And I still love Monique. But this should have been done with Gizelle at her weakest. Too much time has passed so it looks desperate. Well allegedly there now appears to be a reason for the dramatics from Brandi. But I feel the same. When did KAMERON start to have Kary, Brandi, and Stephanie's side? Stephanie??? Yeah, at least Tiffany is trying. Tryhard or not. And I still feel her tryhard comes from a real place like you said versus SLC's Jen or RHOA Latoya. NJ OOPS!!!

I am sure I might feel differently once I see the whole scene...and I don't like Tiff making it about her though I like her as well...HOWEVER, Kary...

Well, I heard and read that Nelle's intro started good enough...it was just the reveal (Jax paid Frank) that sucked.

RHOA I think Latoya said it best at dinner...this is about to go left. And left it went this Sunday. It's clear that rather than show the scenes they showed in flashback in order to get major impact (because this version of the Marlo vs Kenya would hit different if we saw in the previous 8 episodes how Marlo was talking behind Kenya's back to Latoya vs flashback), the producers are just going to milk Strippergate for all that it is worth. I definitely found a lot to laugh about this time around. It was fun watching the Aunties go out of their way to NOT be Aunties as they hanged with the Nieces. And it was all a good vibe. We even got Kenya apologizing after a proper dragging from Kandi. However, Drew took a page from RHOP S2/3 Ashley and subtly stirred the pot between Porsha and Kenya and that was just a mess. I think it's a shame that it does look like little things are what is leading to Porsha vs Kenya. Lauren's disinvite (and Cynthia hold off for weeks unseen). Drew mentioning the private jet. Porsha mentioning Latoya, Kenya, and Drew's wig. Now Drew picking on how the bipolar dynamic. I loved the scene with the Breonna Taylor verdict. That was so real. And I had tears as well as Porsha. There was just so much depth in that scene. And it was perfect for what flow we have gotten with the season so far. KENYA. I love that she apologized somewhat. And realizing that she was not in the right headspace, she let Kandi and Latoya take over the trip. I could see why she would not be upfront with the ladies. Why would she? The majority do not like her. But she should have told Cynthia and Kandi about being stressed. And she deserved every bit of that dragging she got from Kandi. She even tried to move forward after apologizing and have fun. But...alas... KANDI. I saw the Kandi v Kenya and went DRAG HER, KANDI!!!! It needed to be said. And Kandi is good at getting it ALL off her chest. And I don't like a one-sided friendship and I have felt for a while that these two don't have that. Just like she did last season in Greece, she held Kenya accountable. And even at the dinner, she stayed doing that. Because clearly this situation with Brooklyn was just a case of miscommunication and now it's just messy drama. But the looks Kandi was giving all night were telling. CYNTHIA. I laughed at her bagging up food for Mike. And nice she was being a mediator just like Kandi at the dinner. DREW. I see you, girl. I understood what she meant by the weird dynamic. But that's why you stand back and observe a little bit in your first season. So now I am wondering if she is just trying to keep that peach secure by starting subtle mess. As payback for Latoya and Kenya talking about that wig. I do like she was upfront at the dinner with all this so I can't say she is being completely sneaky. Real woman vibes. PORSHA. I really didn't want to see her cry. I continue to love seeing the activist side of Porsha and how she has grown. And how she has been acting since she has been out and about. And it's also nice to see Fun Porsha is still in there as well. I can see how over Kenya's antics she is. However, Porsha has some antics, too. So that dinner went left quick. If I have to pick on Porsha for anything, it's that she is so easy still to be someone else's puppet *cough*Drew*cough* So far...good episode and going into this new round of Kenya vs Porsha, it really is giving me shades of Monique vs Candiace in that going forward, I can see both sides of this and the factors leading up to the drama. Curious to see how I feel once the drama leading to Tanya (bye, hoe) departure starts. PS. SHAMEA AND HER WORKOUT IS A WHOLE MOOD. LOVE. RHOD So...here is some juicy gossip for ya. It would seem that people are giving Brandi the Phaedra side eye right now on her new baby. It would appear that maybe Brandi threw up at the dinner due to her being preggers at that point vs the crickets. And ladies online are counting back from day of birth. And it would seem that when that was filmed she would have already been preggers. And same at Kary's birthday party. So people are wondering if she knew, how she knew, who (side-eye at Stephanie) knew. Because drinking...well... All allegedly. We will see soon in the next few episodes if Brandi says she is pregger on air. He still is kinda fine. Have you seen him shirtless? Yes, I looked. Wow. I REMEMBER THAT TOO!!! SHE WON!!!

Well...NY and BH finished filming their latest seasons today and yesterday respectively.

I meant to get back to you sooner, but yeah...Season 1 is slllow. It really doesn't click until Season 2 and by Episode 5, it does not let up except for one episode in Season 3. I haven't seen the last two seasons (I don't have Amazon Prime so I have Season 4 on hold by dvd and Season 5 just ended...which is based off of a popular book in the series). But it is definitely worth sticking in. Also a great series, but I'm an uberfan. It was part of the reason I seriously started to write. I liked history when I was younger so all the alternate history interested me. Season 1 and 2 are great seasons. Season 3 was the last with the creator and was good for the most part as well. Season 4 and 5 (the Sci-Fi Channel years) are a different beast. I liked them for the most part and been curious to see if they would hope up now that I'm older.

Same.

That's their defense? Again? John Fugelsang on Twitter: "Go ahead and make Madonna jokes, but if Madge told lies that led to 7 people getting killed at least she'd be able to afford a real defense team." / Twitter

Same. I think Shelly started it, but it was clearly a rewrite. I still would have loved it if Nelle had been Carly's ACTUAL sister so that karma could have truly and utterly hit Carly in the face. Count me in as well that Nelle is probably still alive. I see how everything is being setup to give her a trump card when she resurfaces a la old school Sami Brady when Sami's plot would be revealed, she ALWAYS had a trump card that allowed her to wiggle out of it without jailtime (or very little of it).

SLC 'I smell hospital still.' ME: In a word: WOW. For me that was worth the wait. And so much going on. There were so many moments. But I think my favorite easily was the moment after the 'Does Mary's name triggered Jen?' talk where Mary and Jen stared daggers at each other. They did it so perfectly at each other. And I just thought they should be back for Season 2 (which Bravo is ALREADY advertising during the reunion) cuz their rivalry has legs. MEREDITH AND LISA FELL OUT??????????? When? Where? Why? So many questions there. Maybe in Part 2. Maybe that is even why they are sat separately. I said it during the OC reunion and I believe the RHOP reunion as well, but I'll say it again...some what of the ladies wore look soooo much better on screen than it does in pictures. Cuz...Meredith...DAMN. LOL. I loved looking at her through out. The styling of the hair. The earrings. The rings. That dress. How she holds herself. Just breathtaking to me. So funny given how plain and bad that picture of her pre-reunion looked. Easily Mary OWNED Part 1 of the reunion. She proved her tagline without breaking a sweat. I can't wait for @Chris B to see her. JEN. I'm going to get this out of the way first. Why? It seems like someone FINALLY clued Jen in on how she was looking on screen. Or that perhaps she is not mixing her meds with her alcohol. Which is a GOOD look for her. NOW she seems like she is finally reflecting. OR she is duck and covering. Which judging from online...is working for her. Also she knew the others would be coming for her. So she had to play nice. I think the only times she was being RealJen was 1) when she apologized to Heather...I actually did not feel that was fake even if it took her a year...STOP BEING MESSY ANDY!!! and 2) all of her attempts to not get triggered by Mary. And Mary STAYED on her neck throughout Part 1 and you could see she wanted to get into it with her and was fighting everything in her power to keep to the 'Zen' image. In the first part of Meredith vs Jen, I also feel unless producers produce a receipt that in the Brooks battle Meredith is lying so TeamJen on that. And the producers were producing receipts throughout Part 1 so more reason to believe Jen. For once. LISA. I said it best when I say B I T C H. Clearly, Lisa is jealous of the fact that Rihanna is one of the many fans who has fallen in love with Heather. Heather IS the breakout star. She is sooo relatable AND has her own business and money. She is everything that Lisa is, but NICER. And that BURRRNS Lisa up. Clearly, she and Jen have an alliance going on so Lisa is just being the guard dog for her. For now. I love that my Fabulous Ice held her own against everyone coming for her. Mary dogwalked the h#$% out of her. Whitney tried it. Meredith gave her points. But Heather draggggggggggggggged her at the end of Part 1. While all of this is good TV for Lisa...sorry about the fandom...it looks like SHE needs some self-reflection right now like Jen is doing. Either that or she needs to MEREDITH. Yeah, I understand that she wants to stand up for her child like any mother. However, it is clear to everyone that your son was looking for a moment. It also looked like Jen told no lies by saying he was white and prevlieged. #facts And he acts it. Also JEN DID NOT KNOW. So it was not her fault. Other than that I was curious about the fallout between Meredith and Lisa. They are finishing each other's sentences at all. WHITNEY. Girl, you need practice. lol. That faked receipt. SMH. But that said, she did good during the reunion. Her and Heather double-teamed Heather beautifully. Both got their turn to point out how Lisa had wronged them and the fact that she really is not a nice person versus she might just be too blunt. I am a blunt person and know when I am being a d&*(/diva/bitca vs when I say something that is to the point which can shock people with my straightforwardness. And someone who can see that difference KNOWS when they are doing so. So I loved Whitney saying the difference. I loved Heather saying the same. But it just fell on deaf ears. HEATHER. YOU DRAG THAT TRICK, HEATHER!!! You explained. Whitney explained. Even Mary...an actual friend...explained. And Lisa STILL does not get it. You tell her the truth since she is so straight forward. A straight forward person can deal with it. Lisa CANNOT. She's a bitca. that's jealous of you. GET...HER. And how dare Lisa blame her for the fact that the audience is attacking her on SM. I loved how much shade she threw at Lisa. 'Jen wanted to upgrade to THIS.' I was DEAD. Lisa barely recovered. MARY. MVP. Heather vs Lisa was close, but for me Mary coming in and owning EVERYONE was a thing of beauty. And if people came for her, she did read them like a scripture. I LIVED. Especially how her heel stayed on Jen's neck. STAYED. Someone online suggested that it seem like Mary did not watch anything, but her own scenes this past season so she was hearing all of what happened at the reunion in real time. And that made all the difference. She was giving her honest opinion with honest reactions. And she STILL threw shade, gathered people (mostly Lisa this time) and dragged (Jen) so effortlessly. She spared no one's feelings. Even her wigs'. lol. Her ShebySheree kookiness has to come back next season. ETA: Messy Andy wants to be a HW so bad. Thankfully he's more controlled so far.

RHOP Oh, lord...who done pi@#ed off Monique now? Sounds scorched earth to me...

SLC LET HER KNOW, MARY!!!

Thank you. I completely agree. I didn't realize how much talking was going on and saw the bold. Like @Gray Bunny I also felt Alison was the heart of the show. And like @Soaplovers said, I would have not have her leave the show without Billy since they had them set up to be together and go through so much mess from Day 1. And as a regular viewer back then part of the appeal that kept people going was that the first season did soooo much to leave the groundwork for everything that followed. Right down to the introduction of Amanda.

Uh...I would only believe that if Willow was introduced under the JP and SA and not the current writers.

NJ NEXT WEEK!!! The ladies are BACK!!!

Boo!!!

Hmmmmm...I...wouldn't mind.

Thank you. I had seen Holly's coda scene (and foine-as-he-aged Ethan), but I had no idea if it was a dangling plot thread. Good for Scorpio for the delay since he is mixing it up now by being in the Ned/Olivia story AND the Anna/Finn/Jackie/Chase story. Add on Peter. And the sky is the limit on possibilities where his story could go.