6 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I hated Lily. But the show was so good back then that when she died it did feel shocking and was I was sad for her. She was no angel, she manipulated things several times while pretending to be the better person. The men were all clueless!

In hindsight though, I think Lily was the better choice for Sonny as a wife. She wanted to be close to power but she really didn’t want it for herself. She was manipulative but not headstrong. She understood the game having grown up in it. She would have been a stabilizing influence on him rather than creating chaos. She even accepted his feelings for Brenda with resignation that their marriage would just not be that kind of relationship. Even with all that I think Sonny would have continued to be pulled towards Brenda. Maybe people that didn’t watch back then don’t understand it, but it was very dramatic, toxic, and yet you still wanted them together. They paired all that angst beautifully with a couple of 90’s Chris Isaak songs for their end of show music montages GH used to do so well.

Brenda was always complicated when it came to Sonny being in the mob. It’s part of the wire storyline, she made illogical decisions because she wanted to be part of Sonny’s whole life and resented he was keeping things from her. During her last return we saw a Brenda who finally realized that her basically until then unspoken dream that he would give it all up for her wasn’t enough for him. He wanted power more than anything, even Brenda, the love of his life. And Carly was just impulsive, reckless, and volatile and a terrible choice to be that close to danger all the time. Carly, especially SJB and TB were like introducing an unstable element to an already volatile mix.

I would 100% agree Lily would have been the better wife for Sonny and Jax would have been the better husband for Brenda. There are actually a lot of nuanced scenes where it's quite clear these partners would be the rational and healthy decision.

Lily was just too passive on everything to be likeable. Brenda is and was obnoxious, but stood her ground. Lily was more so 'fine' with everything it was annoying. I hated the way everyone (especially men) were so bamboozled by her being nice and polite. She was very beautiful so I get it. She had no female friends which should be a clue.

I always felt if Sonny wanted an equal partner he should never gotten involved with a nosey teenager. I will always die on the Sonny/Brenda hill, but was it actually smart? No? Especially if the end goal was power. The toxicity was bad. Sonny saying he wanted to hit her more than once would never fly today.

Also, love those Chris Isaak songs. I think "Things go wrong" was the main song they used lol.

36 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Good one. I “met” Roger pretty much after the fact, and all his big moments still worked for me. Minus the silly masked man when he returned. But the hall of mirrors, falling from the cliffs, all the stuff he did to Holly, the Mindy/Alex story culmination. It’s all good!

When you watch all his crimes against Holly in his first run though, it’s kind of hard to fathom them sleeping together again like they did in the 90’s. I know they built it up carefully, and Holly is very neurotic, but still.

The rape sequence is very disturbing, which is why a lot of fans had trouble accepting Holly would ever sleep with him again. I chose the Hall of Mirrors though because I had heard so much about it, I didn't think it would translate as well now. But it does.

20 minutes ago, P.J. said:

The rape sequence is very disturbing, which is why a lot of fans had trouble accepting Holly would ever sleep with him again. I chose the Hall of Mirrors though because I had heard so much about it, I didn't think it would translate as well now. But it does.

Oh I agree, it’s one of those soap moments you see after the fact and it’s still great.