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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion

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Has anyone identified the earliest television soap opera to use orchestrated background music (rather than organ music)? I was very surprised to notice the 1951 episode of Hawkins Falls featured orchestrated background cues. And 1951 was pretty early for daytime television. Did any TV soaps use orchestrated music earlier than Hawkins Falls?

And another question -- did any radio soap operas use orchestrated background music? I'm assuming the answer will be no.

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1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

Is there a Hawkins Falls thread? Maybe years back. I think every show should have it's own thread. HF was long running in it's day.

A humorous look back at 1978.

Readers give own version of daytime Emmy awards By LYNDA HIRSCH TV/Radio Week July 23 1978

Now that the official daytime Emmys have been handed out, it’s time for us to bestow some awards in categories the TV Academy didn’t see fit to recognize, categories that were suggested by readers of this column. Now for your total enjoyment, we present the Daytime Column Readers Drama awards.

And remember what follows is the opinion of this column’s readers, not necessarily that of the columnist.

Drug Pusher of the Year — Denise Cavanaugh (played by Holland Tyler) on “Edge of Night.” Her supply of pain-killers makes its way into every tea cup in Monticello.

Can't Say a Line and Hold a Prop at the Same Time — “Edge of Night’s” Nicole Drake (Jayne Bentzen) wins this one. Seems the actress dropped the top of an ice bucket while stumbling over a line.

Nobody's Indispensable — “Ryan’s Hope,” for recasting the roles of Frank, Mary and Faith — within a few months of each other. But it’s not over yet. Mary Carney, who replaced Kate Mulgrew as Mary Ryan Fenelli, has recently left, and may have been replaced by the time you read this.

Most Fertile Town — Genoa City, the site of “Young and the Restless,” where every one night stand results in a pregnancy, including those stemming from the short-termed but fecund love affairs of Philip and Jill, and Lance and Les.

Smallest Electric Bill — “Young and Restless,” for having the darkest sets on television.

Medical Breakthrough of the Year — “Another World,” specifically to Pat Randolph (played by Beverly Penberthy) for having twins after a botched abortion had led to a hysterectomy.

Fountain of Youth — John Randolph, also of “Another World,” since he looks as young as his children. Although John lost a grown daughter nearly 10 years ago, before he fathered twins who are now over 21, John himself has hardly aged a day. Don’t you wish they bottled the secret?

Widowhood Is Bliss — “Search for Tomorrow.” In 27 years, Joanne Vincente has lost three husbands and one longtime boyfriend due to violent death. Her friends, John Wyatt and Stu Bergman, are widowers. Stu's daughter Janet is also thrice a widow. Jo’s recent admirers, Chris Miller and Greg Hartford, can consider themselves lucky to have left Henderson with their skins intact.

Best Brief Appearance in Established Role — Bernie Mclnenerny, who had the misfortune of stepping into a part created by matinee idol Farley Granger. Despite viewer rejection of bis portrayal, he gave a really fine performance as Will Vernon on “One Life to Live.” He deserves another shot at daytime stardom in amore appropriate role.

What a Difference a Day...or Year...Makes — “General Hospital. In one month, the part of Monica Webber has aged several years while Diana Taylor became younger by an equal number. Next year they may decide to bathe Audrey in their fountain of youth and Rachel Ames (Audrey) and Leslie Charleson (Monica) can simply switch roles.

Diana also gets the “Stella Dallas Mother of the Year” award, since no character in recent memory has consistently wanted motherhood more, while enjoying it less.

Don’t Take My Gusto Away Award— “Young and the Restless,” since more beer is consumed on that show than on any other. Where characters on some shows talk about their problems over a cup of coffee, these folks simply reach for a six pack. To compensate for this indulgence, they are fanatical about people not smoking.

Once again, thanks to all of you who responded. We must get together like this next year

I think there was a thread but if so it is locked.

Thanks for the article.

I'm confused about the Pat reference. She'd had her twins over a decade before 1978.

Michael M Ryan was a handsome man but he did NOT look the same age as his kids.

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Thanks Paulraven

So much lost potential

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28 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I'm confused about the Pat reference. She'd had her twins over a decade before 1978.

Michael M Ryan was a handsome man but he did NOT look the same age as his kids.

First, I have never before read that Pat had a hysterectomy after her abortion. She was told by doctors, in vague terms, that she would not be able to bear children. But after corrective surgery around 1970, she did give birth to twins. Nothing particularly unbelievable about that.

And regarding Michael Ryan's youthful appearance on AW in the mid-1970s -- this may be an unexplained reference to John Randolph's deliberately aged appearance (with make-up and gray tinted hair) during most of the 1960s, when John was said to be significantly older than Pat, with a daughter (Lee Randolph) just slightly younger than Pat. Soon after Lee died, attempts to age Michael Ryan with make-up were halted, and all references to John being older than Pat were dropped. By the time the twins were born, John and Pat were played as contemporaries and the previous age difference was never mentioned again.

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19 minutes ago, Tisy-Lish said:

And regarding Michael Ryan's youthful appearance on AW in the mid-1970s -- this may be an unexplained reference to John Randolph's deliberately aged appearance (with make-up and gray tinted hair) during most of the 1960s, when John was said to be significantly older than Pat, with a daughter (Lee Randolph) just slightly younger than Pat. Soon after Lee died, attempts to age Michael Ryan with make-up were halted, and all references to John being older than Pat were dropped. By the time the twins were born, John and Pat were played as contemporaries and the previous age difference was never mentioned again.

That would make sense when you say it. Puzzled me in the article.

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