Barack Obama Elected President!

[Roman]

He has no chance of winning in November?

Lord.

And......what momentum? She got her head handed to her last night, in a state that her higher ups were saying she would win. Also, wasn't it posted that she was up by 12 points in a state she won by 2 points?

With all due respect, I'm just alittle tired of every state Obama winning either not being big enough or important enough when he wins them.......but they are important when she wins.

Let's ee how important these states will be if she pulls some backroom crap and steals a nomination that rightfully belongs to Obama.

[DevotedToAMC]

No I said we have no chance of winning states that he is winning right now.

The momentum is going to continue with Hillary since the next primaries are West Virginina and Kentucky...she will blow him out of the water in both. Montana will easily be hers, odds are Puerto Rico will be a win, I see her coming from behind to win Oregon. She has the majority of the rest of the primaries going for her.

She also cut into Obama's big lead in North Carolina...that took momentum to do

[Wales2004]

When someone says: im canadian and im going to go to oregon and start campainging for her...this is getting stupid...she was the favourite with the media until obama came from nowhere...truley you guys want someone with no experience runnning the white house??? running your country...it will be a country run by advisors and people he asskes what should i do lame.. I can either take it to mean that the system isn't working because the media allowed Obama to usurp her or that Americans are stupid? Maybe I should have taken it to mean that Americans are stupid since we guys want someone with no experience running the white house and running our country. I mean gosh we need help trying to figure out what is good for us right?

[DevotedToAMC]

He did not say Americans are stupid but that what is going on now is stupid with the way the media is portraying with Obama as electable when, in his opinion, Obama has no experience. The system is not working entirely since the electoral college is outdated and has been called to be abolished. Again, there is nothing in the post that indicates Americans are stupid but that the contest is since he feels Obama is not qualified to be president.

I, on the other hand, like Obama and think he has it in him to be a great president

[Wales2004]

So bad press is the same thing as momentum now? With all the bad press, she should have been the one to win so uh no, she didn't accomplish any such thing. She was all gleeful making the rounds as if she had him buried and lo and behold that's not how it worked out. Momentum should have blown him out in Indiana if she had it. Maybe she would have done better had NC been open like IN but alas it wasn't. You were the one that said she cut him down to single digits per the reliable accurate poll so maybe you should concede that based on the poll he got momentum and increased his lead.

[DevotedToAMC]

I don't have to concede to anything, especially to you. There were other polls that are reliable that had him ahead by double digits but I go by Survey USA, which showed differently. The most important poll is obviously on election day.

The bad press did cut his lead down in NC but he still won it, just like bad press hurt Hillary in the wake of Geraldine Ferraro but she still held on so it does not equate to a loss at all times.

She did not really have a chance of winning NC since it has a high African American population and Obama is pulling in those votes. Where you get the idea that she should have beat him there is beyond me.

I said she is going to have momentum in the next coming primaries since she has a huge lead in West Virginia and Kentucky...odds are she will manage to come back in Oregon and win there (she is making ground there) and Montana she has a big lead as well, same with Puerto Rico. That is pretty good momentum if you ask me and might be enough to help her out big time with superdelegates, not to mention she is beating McCain by bigger numbers than Obama. But the good news is they both are beating McCain

[Wales2004]

You don't have to say something for it to be implied. Otherwise what I'd get is that the media is the one putting Obama in the position he is in. You're the one saying the electoral system is not working and maybe the person for whom you're speaking could have stated that in the first place but that's not what I got. It goes the media has thrown over Hilary Clinton for Obama (which isn't at all true) and that the media is determining the outcome of the primaries which isn't at all true. This is from someone who was upset that CNN was able to project Obama as the winner of the NC primary relatively shortly after the polls closed and felt they were stalling the IN results in hopes that the vote would swing Obama's way despite the fact that they were quite peeved with the mayor of Gary because the results took too long to get from the one county.

But do explain for me how Obama who this poster feels is not qualified to be president is winning votes without someone not being smart enough to detect that he's unqualified. Whether it was intended or not, it still implies that the people who support him are stupid since they cannot see he is unqualified.

[Jess]

First Hillary Clinton has no more experience that Barack Obama. She was First Lady and not president.

Second, Obama beat her by 14 points in NC. That is a walloping. She didn't cut into squat. If anything, she has so little momentum she almost lost a state that was in her column.

Third many of the states that Hillary are winning will not go Democratic in the fall. Texas and Indiana are Republican states and regardless of who gets the nomination, they are still going to be Republican states. That is probably true of Missouri and much of the South.

Fourth, Hillary Clinton staying in the race is embarrassing. It has come to the point where the best thing for her own interests would be to drop out of the race. Right now she looks desperate for attention and selfish. It is also becoming very clear that her top priority is herself. I'm coming to question her commitment to things that she has said define her -- things like the Democratic Party. Her backtracking on Florida and Michigan re-enforces everything negative about the Clintons: there is no rule they won't break if it suits their personal ambitions.

She is not going to win the nomination. Every day she stays in the race and continues to harm the party's prospects in the fall is another strike against her future with the party.

[DevotedToAMC]

I am well aware you don't need to say anything for its implication but I did not see him implying that people are stupid for supporting Obama. The media somewhat has something to do with how they portray the candidates and it has been mostly positive for Obama.

I don't get where you are saying tha tHillary is being thrown over by the media for Obama...sure they had her picked as the nominee but they are also crucifying her at every chance.

You and I will have to agree to disagree about this poster's sentiments on Obama voters because that is not what I am concluding at all.

[DevotedToAMC]

Uhh I definitely count her years as First Lady as experience, plus she has more since she has been in the Senate for a longer period of time. Most people consider Hillary as co president from 1993 to 2001 and I happen to agree. She was not just some First Lady but she transformed the role and had a major position in how policy was shaped.

I don't consider 14 points as walloping when he had a 25 or so point lead just maybe a month ago or a month and a half so she cut into it pretty good to limit the lead to that number.

Let's see on Hillary's winning states that will not go Democrat this November: Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, maybe Indiana.

Let's see on Obama's winning states that won't go Democrat this November: Alabama, Alaska, maybe Colorado (they have more Democrats than Republicans in their delegation to U.S. Congress but they have been going red for quite some time), Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Carolina, Utah, Virginia.

*Right now, toss up states are Missouri, Indiana, Colorado, Arkansas, Ohio, Florida...Obama has only won one of those states*

Why should she drop out of the race when she is the one who is beating McCain by more points than Obama? She has a pretty significant lead over him while Obama has minimal. She is appearing more formidable that way and is also more prepared and knowing of the Republican smear campaign. I don't consider her staying in so that everyone gets to vote as appearing selfish. Obama can come off as selfish as well with his bitter comments

Obama is not going to win the nomination either by just pledged delegates. It is going to come down to superdelegates. With her momentum of the remaining states (I think Oregon will switch her way) and the bigger lead over McCain, that could very well persuade many of the remaining ones to go in her favor.

[Wales2004]

It was a figure of speech since I would never expect you to concede anything, especially not to me. You implied that based on polls Hilary Clinton would beat John McCain and now today we're seeing that the poll that you went by meant nothing.

I can't even believe this comparison. What he went through does not remotely compare to Geraldine Ferraro and whatever weak reaction came from that. Not even her Bosnia sniping lie had as much traction as the commotion of the word "bitter: and Rev Wright.

I really think you should back off the black thing because it's ridiculous. If black people are following him so blindly then what's going on with the women? She's one and women outnumber men so what's the problem? Are the black women confused because they're women but black and don't know who to follow? Are the white men confused because she's white but not a man and they're not sure either? I don't know where I got the idea......

She won't have the momentum until she actually wins them but what does that matter? Since Obama only won NC because he's black and there are lots of black people there let's move on to places that really matter and let's ignore everything else and focus on those polls that show her beating McCain. I'm only shocked that you haven't offered up the vice presidency to Obama today but I guess that's coming with the momentum.

[Wales2004]

Oh so that wasn't him that I saw under attack for saying the wrong thing. I guess I was mistaken when I saw them constantly predicting doom for him and saying he looked beleaguered.

That's because I wasn't saying it. The person for whom you were responding said it.

I guess we will.

[Roman]

I also guess he won Missouri because he's black.

Even though the state is 70 percent white.

And........he was not up 25 points in NC. He was up by the same margin he won by......14 points. And that came from every single poll I saw.

[Adam]

I hope Hillary drops out so it can just end this madness and bickering.

[Wales2004]

For stupid reasons like she's destroying her party and she's behind in the delegate count and popular vote and because she's not going to be in a much better position after the primaries. John McCain isn't scared of her....please. To whom does she look more formidable?

It's so lame and like you to refer back to Obama's bitter comment for which he's apologized many times. Especially when he said it was a poor way to phrase what he was trying to say.... as if that doesn't happen to people everyday....maybe not to you though. How does that come off as selfish? You seem to reach an awful lot in your defense of all things Hilary Clinton. But that's quite a stretch. I mean obviously when he uttered those words he did it with the intent of hurting people and gaining what exactly for himself?