Maybe I'm wrong. I watched a feature earlier this week where they interviewed the men who were held captive with McCain. At the end, they said one thing they all, including McCain, believed was that torture was not good. People who are being tortured will say anything so it does not provide information. Also, if Americans torture, then Americans can be tortured, they said. I assumed McCain also opposed torture.

By he way, I do not support McCain for president, but the man went through hell.

One thing I've noticed about the GOP speeches is that they are all cookie cutter. We could all sit here and right one because they have little basis in fact. It's just buzz words, liberal, bureaucracy, taxes. Oh well.

One final note. I started laughing when Palin said as governor she got rid of things the state of Alaska should not be paying for. Then there was this pause, and I though hmmm, yeah, she got rid of her brother-in-law and the man who would not fire her brother-in-law.

I believe I've heard McCain say he was against torture. I just think he might have changed his mind again since he wants to be president. Of course he doesn't put ambition ahead of what's right, except when he's putting it ahead of what's right......and he's not ambitious like Obama since he's only running for president out of the goodness of his heart.

The book banning thing baffles me. Was she SERIOUS?

Unfortunately it was never released what books she wanted. I was hoping for some Harry Potter myself. I have an extremely conservative cousin that won't let her son read those.

Edited September 4, 200817 yr by bandbfan

According to Sarah Palin unless you in favour of torturing terror suspects, you are a Democrat. I was thoroughly insulted by alot of her comments tonight.

She was refering to Obama's support of giving terrorists a fair trial. Many feel that because terrorists violate the rules of war that they should not be allowed imunity. The republican ticket are not advocates of torture.

Edited September 4, 200817 yr by Casey008

She was refering to Obama's support of giving terrorists a fair trial. Many feel that because terrorists violate the rules of war that they should not be allowed imunity.

I don't think it really matters what specific issue she was referring to. The basic picture....being a democrat and wanting a strong America is an oxy-moron.

The book banning thing baffles me. Was she SERIOUS?

Unfortunately it was never released what books she wanted. I was hoping for some Harry Potter myself. I have an extremely conservative cousin that won't let her son read those.

I read an article accusing her of going after the librarian but they didn't interview the librarian and there wasn't any specifics on the books. It said something to the effect of some parents being against the books and she wanted to have them banned.

I believe I've heard McCain say he was against torture. I just think he might have changed his mind again since he wants to be president. Of course he doesn't put ambition ahead of what's right, except when he's putting it ahead of what's right......and he's not ambitious like Obama since he's only running for president out of the goodness of his heart.

Sometimes I forget he is only running out of his sense of nobility and not ambition. :lol:

I read an article accusing her of going after the librarian but they didn't interview the librarian and there wasn't any specifics on the books. It said something to the effect of some parents being against the books and she wanted to have them banned.

I'm sure it was LGBT books she wanted banned!

Okay, maybe someone here can give me some backgrounder... It was briefly discussed today at work, and I'm not sure I have gotten the full story about William Ayers and his connection/friendship with Obama. Does someone have the facts on this?

Going back to my earlier comment about Rudy.....

I think Rudy Giuliani is a by-product of running an election on fear. He's obviously not a social-coservative. Yet he's a Repubilican. As far as I can tell, his stance on the war is the only reason he is one. (Feel free to point any other issue out). So WHY is he one? Because, you can't want a strong America and be a democrat at the same time.......apparently.

Edited September 4, 200817 yr by bandbfan

Going back to my earlier comment about Rudy.....

I think Rudy Giuliani is a by-product of running an election on fear. He's obviously not a social-coservative. Yet he's a Repubilican. As far as I can tell, his stance on the war is the only reason he is one. (Feel free to point any other issue out). So WHY is he one? Because, you can't want a strong America and be a democrat at the same time.......apparently.

He is also a strong fiscal conservative. He greatly lessened the expanse of government in NYC.

Sometimes I forget he is only running out of his sense of nobility and not ambition.

He makes it sound as if millions of Americans wrote and begged him to run. He's sold his soul. He should change the Straight Talk to Ridiculous Lies and stop pretending.

He is also a strong fiscal conservative. He greatly lessened the expanse of government in NYC.

There are a lot of fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal people out there. He just kind of strikes me as an opportunist. (Ignoring the fact that 9/11 happened in his backyard.) I think that if we weren't in a war, he'd be the Joe Liberman who can cross over. He's NOT comparable to Palin or Huckabee, who are the social heroes of the party.

Edited September 4, 200817 yr by bandbfan

Okay, maybe someone here can give me some backgrounder... It was briefly discussed today at work, and I'm not sure I have gotten the full story about William Ayers and his connection/friendship with Obama. Does someone have the facts on this?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checke...connection.html

There are a lot of fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal people out there. He just kind of strikes me as an opportunist. (Ignoring the fact that 9/11 happened in his backyard.) I think that if we weren't in a war, he'd be the Joe Liberman who can cross over. He's NOT comparable to Palin or Huckabee, who are the social heroes of the party.

Joe Lieberman crossed over because the Democrats don't want him but Guiliani seems to be welcome since he spits out the company rubbish left and right.

I don't know, I guess I just find Giuliani very ironic since he was essentially surrounded by people that are VERY different from him. Yet he was trying to appeal to them. And social issues are a lot of what Republicans use to scare the country with.

Edited September 4, 200817 yr by bandbfan