I truly believe that David Kreizman and Ellen Wheeler are major reasons why GL is even still afloat right now, and sacking them would be an extremely risky move that starts a process of irreversible decline.

People like Paul Rauch, John Conboy, and Ellen Weston, despite apparent strong resumes, were driving GL off the tracks straight toward cancellation. San Cristobel; the mob; Maryanne Carruthers; Rick, Lillian, Holly, and Beth taken off contract ... Ugh.

Then Kreizman and Wheeler came along and reinvigorated the show with new experiments like the ITL episodes, while also returning GL more to its roots by, for instance, bringing back Matt and Vanessa, signing Rick back on contract, offering a contract to Blake and Beth, signing Billy back on contract, and bringing closure to the story of Roger and Holly by acknowledging Roger's death.

Long may DK and EW reign at GL. I feel safe in their hands. I hope the ratings go up.

oh my god! what are u smoking?GL ratings are sinking because of the horrible writing of david k...He is not a good writer at all...As for the other writers that you mentioned,yes they made mistakes but they always had several other winning stories despite maybe one weak storyline...Soap opera ratings go down becasue of bad choices in wirting-----bottom line.yes GL just won in several categories at the daytime emmys....But when all is said and done,the ratings is what counts,and the numbers are horrible!

2.8 for B&B - Awful! Kay Alden is needed right now!

DAYS: It's hilarious! Every time the ratings go down, there's always a reason: preemptions, Tennis on NBC, Golf etc.

How about this for a theory? The DiMeras aren't the ratings saviors so many of you think they are, people don't want to watch the redemption of a rapist, there is too much Sami, Doug/Julie never had that much of a fanbase. And, last but not least, the teen summer SL would have to be one of the worst yet. When actors as bad as Trevor Donovan keep getting cast, you know things really haven't changed that much on DAYS.

while i agree that days aint at its best for you to say doug and Julie never had that much of a fan base is ridicolous! Doug and Julie were extremely popular in their day and even made the cover of TIME magazine!

I agree - to an extent. However, GL's ratings have been hovering between sixth and 8th place for the past 20 years or so - even during its heyday in the early '90's. I don't know what it's going to take for GL to be the number one show again..but one thing is for sure - get rid of the current EP and headwriter pronto!

If you look at the entertainment venues that are the most popular across all media, you'll see that quality does brings in the numbers. SURVIVOR and ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIDTH GRADER? huge hits on television. The radio is filled teen-bopper pop-rock and bling-fixated hip-hop. The cineplexes are packing them in for mindless action films and shallow "love stories."

Popularity and success in our current media culture is anything but a definitive indication of any inherent quality.

I'm no Kreizman cheerleader, but Ellen Wheeler clearly has a passion for GL and her efforts to keep the show going have paid off in spades and it's due to her efforts that GL is now almost certainly assured several more years of life.

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You may be enjoying it, but the people who've been with Y&R for years and made it #1 are tuning out in droves. Latham came in and COMPLETELY changed the show. It was #1 as we know and to change everything that made it work was never going to be successful.

To top it off, Latham's writing is just awful and plot driven. She doesn't understand the characters with the vast majority of them acting like new people. It's no surprise people are bolting. As long as they keep Latham the show will continue it's downard spiral and Y&R will be in the same state as the other soaps.

What made the show so successful is that it was unique and such a step above the other soaps. Prior to Latham people could tune in and see Bill Bell's Y&R. Now? Dull reveals with no follow through, tons of dropped storylines, out of character behavior, Abbott's written out, tons of newbies, vets fired, Winters wasted and boring Brad and Pod!Victoria are shoved down our throats.

Her Y&R however fast it may be is very boring. She can't do the reveals and the drama and the catfights like classic Y&R. B&B is getting better and better now that they're filling the staff with former Y&R writers.

As a relatively new Y and R follower, I am stunned by all the changes Latham is making. I started following due to the Drucilla story. I am absolutely floored she'd let Victoria Rowell/Drucilla leave... as well as letting go Eileen Davidson at the just about the same time. I loved Amber on B & B, but she is more than out of place on Y and R. Latham is turning Y and R into a generic ABC soap...and I was tuning into Y and R to get away from that.

And there aren't very many vets on the show anymore. There is no warm, comfortable, familiar feeling about AMC, IMHO. And who can they bring back to the show?? They have written off/killed/destroyed Brooke, David, Maria, Edmund, Dixie, Janet, Travis, Leo, Vanessa, etc. I am sure I am forgetting a few characters. These faces were so important to the history of the show and now they don't have hardly any of that anymore. Who is left? Jack and Erica. Not enough. To me, it feels like there is no core or center to AMC anymore and I would not be surprised if they continue to drop in the ratings.

Exactly. There is NO core/center to AMC... they are doing the ABC Dance... getting rid of families and focusing on the kids... using the vets as props. They have also lost what was the historical AMC setting... the Main Line Philly socialite world, and the interactions and emotional struggles of FAMILIES in that world. Without the fully developed families, I can't see this show working. And with so few of the stronger vet characters left (they have a 'sampling' left from some families, but not whole families) I can't see this show coming back.