juppiter

^lmao @ "A New Day Dawning for Days of Our Lives."

An earlier iteration of "The Plan to Save Days." They have literally been saving Days for an entire generation now.

I really wish they had just let this die. She is the one who fought to make it the classic it was. I understand that they couldn't go on with her, but they really shouldn't have gone on at all.

While I'm curious about what happens to the other characters, this show is so dear to me that I'm just going to pretend it ended after last season's finale. It is up to Sara Gilbert now to do what Roseanne did on the original show and fight for a certain vision of a working class family that deals with real problems... I just don't know if I trust her to do that when she hasn't lived that experience and Roseanne has.

What are the thoughts on Peter Fonda saying Trump’s son should be locked in a cage with pedophiles?

If anything this merits a Brady Bunch style reboot where we laugh along with how dated everything is.

Hmmm.... love this show, but I don't think this works with a revival. It's just very 90s.

I really love your recaps YRBB. Keep them coming. No comment because I really hate this season and these storylines, but I’m looking forward to you getting to season 12.

11 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Channing Dungey is getting a lot of praise, but I bet she is STRESSED at having to make major changes to the fall schedule without any series that would really pop for advertisers. I don’t envy her one bit at the moment.

Please. 

Don’t sympathize with these suits. They are cunning. 

No, I don’t want a spin-off. Just let it die. Roseanne without Roseanne isn’t Roseanne.

Watching Ames McNamara WAS like watching young Sara Gilbert.... I think that’s the worst part. He was only going to get better. 

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

 

I wasn't praising them. I was just surprised. The way America is going I didn't think they would.

The cast wasn’t returning. There was no way to go on. 

54 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Of the cast I feel most sorry for those who hadn't worked a lot since the original show ended. Sometimes it's obvious why, but Lecy Goranson, in the clips I saw, was very good this time around. I hope she gets some work from this and isn't tarnished by Roseanne herself.

 

Like the tweet from Todd Van Der Woof (?) said, I'm surprised ABC cancelled it. Yes, the ratings were falling, and would have continued to do so, but that was from a huge height.

 

They made the right decision though.

There was no option. ABC shouldn’t be praised or criticized for the decision. It was simply recognizing reality. 

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think the original Roseanne is one of the best situation comedies in TV history. I think the Roseanne of that era was a talented, complicated, very difficult person. And I think aspects of that person still do exist in Roseanne today, but not enough to countenance what the rest of her - like so many other men and women of a certain age or background like her - have inexplicably become. Too much is said and done to let the rest go anymore. What they say and do eclipses who they used to be.

 

In a strange way, this entire revival was a microcosm of what some of us have gone through as a country in the last year-plus - we've struggled to reconcile how former friends, neighbors, family have turned to what they have, just as Sara Gilbert, the cast and a predominantly liberal-progressive writing staff have done with a person they've known and loved most of their lives. We tried to find an imperfect place we could come together like we used to. And then, finally, something so unspeakable happens that we can't let it be anymore. It's awful and it's sad and it's ugly but we tear the page out and walk away.

Wow. +1

I'm so heartbroken. I really think this would have hit its stride next season. But ABC pretty much had no choice. There was no way the show could go on.

I'm torn between wishing it had never come back at all so its legacy wouldn't be tarnished like this and feeling thankful that we at least got this short revival -- bittersweet as it was. 

I think Roseanne is an incredibly complex and flawed person but I will always have respect for her as an artist. I'm sure she probably did much worse than this in the 90s, and we just don't know about it. I'm wondering if the internet was such a good idea after all. 

Watching season 2 of Knots is just fascinating. I love what this show became, but watching season 2 I wonder what it could have been. 

I love the episodes that show show multiple couples in the same position. I just watched one where Valene is involved with Earl Trent, and Laura is involved with Scooter Warren, and Richard and Gary react in interesting ways. 

This is Show was great because The couples’ storylines have matching themes but they don’t beat you over the head with it.

I love all these characters. I adore the Karen/Sid dynamic and I think it works better than the Karen/Mack dynamic ever did. I am going to be devastated when Sid dies... he really is a loveable character.

Donna Mills steals every scene she is in. In the episode I just watched, with Laura and Val not cheating after their husbands cheated, she is a bit much with Gary. It is interesting that this show decided not to do the Gary/Abby affair before it did. 

They definitely need to address Andy just to give Laurie Metcalf more to do. The only big episode she had was the Bev episode, and it's just not enough. We need as much Laurie Metcalf as we can get.

My head backstory for Andy was that he was in and out of rehab for heroin and Jackie finally just cut him out of her life... and nobody mentions it because it is too painful. 

I watched season 4, season 5, and then I was so into season 6... and then it got deleted. And then MOST of it was re-uploaded, so I went back to it after a brief thirtysomething excursion...

And I saw Abby launch a giant floppy disk into a computer, only to find out that Valene's babies were Gary's, her perfectly made up, beautiful face reflecting in the freeze frame of the episode, beckoning me to go further into Knots' most-watched season.

And then the next episode was deleted by YouTube. Even though most of the season was there, I already knew how the season turned out. I wanted to watch the beats of it, which had thus far been fantastic. But knowing that would be impossible, I turned back.

Back to season 2 Knots.

And how fabulous season 2 Knots is.

This show is absolutely quaint, in the most possibly charming way. Everybody gets good moments. Don Murray gets good moments of being that impossibly good, moral guy. You root for him. He always wants the best in people and is just so kind to everyone. Karen is almost too pro-active for Knots Landing. This is a woman who knows what she wants and won't be denied. Valene grows so much in this season. She wants to be a good spouse for Gary, but also doesn't want to be a fly on the wall. We see a little bit of Lilimae when she tells J.R. how awful he is and to stay away from Gary. Laura is trying to make her marriage with Richard work for her son's sake, even though her husband is not offering much. Richard is tragically emasculated by Laura and lashing out at her. Kim Lankford is beautiful and talented as the doomed Ginger. Donna Mills is writing Abby's backstory before our eyes, stealing every scene she is in. Her chemistry with Larry Hagman is off the charts. Her feud with Michele Lee's Karen is bubbling under the radar. She relishes in getting called "such a slut" by Constance McCashin's Laura. Ted Shackleford's Gary is completely stupid, but understandably so. James Houghton is just there.

This season is just so well put together. You would not have Michael being learning disabled as a major storyline in today's shows. And in season 2 Knots, it is a major story, and it is so well done. You would not get Gary falling for Judy Trent over multiple episodes. You would not get Val getting her degree over multiple episodes. You would not get Abby clearly pining over Gary, but not actually making her move until the next season.

Knots Landing season 2 is a slowly plotted gem. Watching this, one wonders what could have been had this show remained Scenes From Four Marriages. They did it expertly in season 2. They nailed the nuts and bolts that most shows would ignore. 

I knew the Muslim neighbor looked familiar and I finally placed her. She was hilarious on Curb in the Palestinian Chicken episode. Hope we see more of them... 

On 5/4/2018 at 4:52 PM, Soaplovers said:

Of course, he wouldn't agree with that LOL

 

I'm going to say I never liked Carly with Jack.. I think pairing them was the worst thing the show did with her character.  She was a spitfire and entertaining pre-Jack.  Plus, while I thought she was a good actress.. I certainly didn't think she deserved all the Emmy accolades either, but I figure it's all in the eye of the beholder in terms of acting talent.

They had a spark in the beginning. The problem was when Jack lost his rough edges and became Officer Jesus. Then they were insufferable.

On 4/25/2018 at 6:26 PM, juppiter said:

Ugh... the apolune vaults channel got taken off YouTube. I had just finished season 5 and was 3 episodes into season 6 and super addicted.

 

please PM me if you know where else I can watch this show. I’m so pissed. 

Luckily this is now back online. Can I just say it’s disgusting that I have to stream this illegally? This is absolutely one of the best TV shows of all time.

i have caught lazy writing in it. Gary was ready to divorce Abby and changed his mind in five seconds. But this cast and these writers just sell everything so well. I forgive them. For now I forgive them: onward with season 6. There will come a time when I won’t forgive them (I know, because I’ve watched the series before, but not in at least ten years) but I won’t think about that yet.

14 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Ugh. If Democrats did take over Congress, unlikely as it is, could they do anything about Carson's plans? 

His plan requires legislative action no matter what (i.e. nothing will come of it no matter who wins congress.)

14 hours ago, Vee said:

White House has little idea what Scott Pruitt will say tomorrow on Hill. He's not returning calls. Many aides hope he fails. Really only Marc Short, a Koch operative turned WH official, is defending him now to Trump. Many see dismissal as matter of time. https://t.co/u9TEZqcsLd

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) April 26, 2018

🚨🚨BREAKING: HUD secretary Ben Carson announces plan to triple low-income families’ rents and take housing away from jobless workers. This is apparently his plan for “encouraging work and self-sufficiency.” https://t.co/3TNYJn2h17

— Rebecca Vallas (@rebeccavallas) April 25, 2018

This is spin. Only people paying the minimum rent (currently $50) would see their rents triple under Carson’s plan. And I say, good. Nobody should be paying $50 in rent...

Ugh... the apolune vaults channel got taken off YouTube. I had just finished season 5 and was 3 episodes into season 6 and super addicted.

please PM me if you know where else I can watch this show. I’m so pissed. 

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

It's not?  Well, I can't say I'm disappointed to hear that, because I never bought that twist in the first place.  If someone needed to be gay in that family, I thought, then it needed to be Jackie, or Darlene.

Well, we don’t really know, but it seems like anything from season 9 is stricken from the canon.

Just now, Khan said:

Now, Bev is someone I COULD see being a Trump supporter (despite her being a lesbian).

Of course she would be. Though I think lesbev isn’t canon anymore.

The Bev characterization was all wrong. That annoyed me. She’s supposed to be a total prude. I don’t know why I can accept Roseanne’s character as an evolution of 90s Roseanne, and not Bev, but it was just off to me.

The David plot was just too sloppy. This needed to be a two parter and they needed more dramatic moments and a better reason for David not being there.

i would have given him a drug or alcohol addiction. And I wouldn’t have had Darlene change her mind so quickly. This could/should have been a real tearjerker. But it was like foreplay that never led anywhere.

My least fave episode so far because it could have been so much better. 

9 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

 

I agree about it going against Roseanne's character. There's a few characteristics they're forgetting from the original. As you said, Roseanne was against spanking because her own father used physical violence against her (something they didn't introduce until the 4th season, but it still remained throughout the series). 

 

 

Old people do this though. When I was in my 20s my grandmother asked me why I had to move so far away. “Um grandmother, you moved across the ocean from your parents when you were my age,” I wanted to say. 

I remembered the spanking episode, and that’s what I took it as. Old people remembering things inaccurately/exaggerating to make a point.

people are taking this revival too seriously. Almost all of the media takes on it from both sides have been obnoxious.