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50 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:

Was Mamie from Dru/Olivia's mom or dad side of the family?

Mamie was Lillie Belle's sister.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

 

Wanda Coleman.

THANK YOU. My brain at 2am is not what it used to be.

10 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Also, Theo on DAYS. Rare black male (himself a DiMera legacy character) as desired sex symbol in a triangle with two legacy characters who happened to be white. Ron Carlivati came on, had him shot, paralyzed, and shipped out of town. (Black characters are also almost always most expendable during regime changes. Never allowed to build momentum, continuity, equity to create viewer investment.)

 

Now, the actor wasn’t great (nor are a lot of folks on DAYS), but his treatment spoke volumes.

Not to mention the entire storyline was written to drive sympathy for the white cop (JJ) instead of properly play the complexities that race played in his shooting and potentially having JJ come to terms with his own buried prejudices about black people, or said prejudices within the police force.

Hell, they had Abe come off as the heavy for laying into "poor sad Jennifer" while she cornered Abe at every opportunity to talk about how sad JJ was. No subtlety, no nuance to it, and then, in the end, OOPS ALL WAS FORGIVEN LOL NO BIGGIE.

Absolutely disgraceful way that story was handled. You're all right, the way black characters are handled needs to come from behind the scenes before it'll ever show on screen. It's funny, because when the Grants were introduced on DAYS in the mid-70s, they hired a very talented black writer and poet (whose name escapes me at the moment) to ensure their portrayal and story were accurate and authentic. Apparently this is too much to ask in 2019.

10 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I thought the chaos of Abby shooting Roy (on GL) after the judge dismissed the prosecution’s case against him was really memorable and well-orchestrated (starts at 1:25). 

 

 

That first year of B&E at GL was fantastic, before they gummed it up with that clone nonsense. Though, I gotta say, that blowback from the shot was a bit lolworthy.

As much as they've ruined Kristen in later years, I still am mesmerized watching this. Of course, this won her the emmy that year, and deservedly so. We don't get many moments like this anymore on any show.

ETA: This also reminds me what a lousy choice it was to recast the role this last go-around. SH doesn't hold a candle to ED.
 

 

On 1/24/2019 at 8:01 PM, Faulkner said:

Some personal faves! Enjoy.

Thank you for the Alex/Roger scenes. Beverlee McKinsey was in an entirely different league. Amazing stuff!

On 9/26/2018 at 9:18 PM, Faulkner said:

 

I stumbled on the full theme just now. Really gorgeous.

 

 

Fantastic! What a beautiful piece of music. Thanks for this!

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Surprised Jenna wasn't used more.

Only recall Jenna Norris on AW.

 

Once a character is established on one show, it's very rare for another show to use that name.

eg Valerie was on Secret Storm 64-74, so no one else used that name in that time. The next Valerie was on Days starting in 76.

If a name is used on another show, it's usually for a very different type of character eg Alice Horton matriach, Alice Matthews ingenue.

Larissa is a name that hasn't popped up, but is somewhat known and would suit a teen girl character.

 

Jenna Bradshaw on GL is the only other one I remember.

17 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

It sounds a lot like a name that would've been used on Passions.

I do appreciate their deliberate attempt to use names that were not common on soaps. Valerie and Esme are my favorites. I know ATWT had a Valerie in the 70s, but have there been any other major Vals (not looking at you, Mrs. Ewing...).

Valerie Grant on DAYS is the only other one I can think of.

10 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Published in Daytime TV March 87, so probably a few months earlier

1. Y&R 8.8 /31

2. GH 8.3 /27

3. DOOL 8.0/28

4. OLTL 7.7/26

5. ATWT 7.3/24

6. AMC 7.1/23

7. GL 6.6/21

8. CAP 5.1/17

9. SB 4.8 /17

10. LOV 3.9/14

11. RH 3.0/11

12. SFT 2.7/9

That's odd, where's AW?  Pre-empted that week?

On 7/5/2018 at 3:00 PM, carolineg said:

 

I know this is from 2 years ago and no one cares, but I always thought they were going to make Eric gay/bisexual and just backed out.  I think there was some fan speculation at the time agreeing with that theory too.

 

Fairly certain I remember a Soap Opera Weekly preview from around then saying that the disembodied boots following Eric around Salem Place was meant to be Eric's gay lover from Colorado, which seems to make sense considering the boots turned out to be some random person who was on for about two scenes before disappearing and Nicole very hastily being introduced. It all seemed very much like a rewrite to me, even at age 10, as opposed to the plan being to introduce Nicole all along. I do wish I could find that magazine to back it up, but I'm sure it's buried in my childhood home closet somewhere.

I always loved the final LOL opening, sorry if it's already been posted. Simple but very grand. I could see it having been used, in some variation, for many years had the show kept running.
 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

 

Marley going crazy and kidnapping Vicky could have worked if her motive was anger at choosing to marry her rapist instead of being loyal to her sister.. and being that she was no longer Vicky's identical twin... her sense of identity could have really be shaken.. the final nail in the coffin of her sanity.

 

 

That, honestly, is the only rationale that makes any sense to me.

I cannot for the life of me remember what they claimed WAS the cause?

2 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

Melba did much better on the R&B charts - at least one solo #1 and some hit duets with Freddie Jackson. She never made the Hot 100 - ever!! 😨

Far more popular in Britain, as well. A handful of Top 40 singles there. But, true, nothing extraordinary.

 

She made the Hot 100 twice, but, again, never higher than #47.

1 hour ago, Wendy said:

 

Oh, FFS. Will somebody PLEASE get a tranquilizer dart gun and then release Trump into a faraway forest? On Pluto?

Are you sure that's not exactly what happened mid-tweet?

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Why are there no ratings for this soap? I am looking at the archives and no ratings.

Was only on for the one season, it tied for 13th with Dark Shadows and Paradise Bay (according to Wiki, at least)

 

• 13. Morning Star 4.1 (Debut/Final Season: September 27, 1965 to July 1, 1966)

 

Usually those ones we see in our threads only go to the Top 10, and I doubt this show ever got high enough ratings to rank above 10, so...

I wonder what on EARTH happened in Nov. 78 to cause such a steep drop across daytime. WOW. AW and Family Feud lost half their audience in a year!

Has anyone ever heard of Postmodern Jukebox? They do covers of popular songs in retro style

LOVE them. My friend wants to drag me out to see them when they play Toronto next. Sadly, can't afford to go, but they've been giving me LIFE.

It's like 1992's come back to haunt us. LOVE this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyK1OFt7yIs

Camp as a row of tents but I can't stop.

That could very well be. Although I'm not overly familiar with Walther, she would be the right age and had previously played Patti Tate on SFT for a period and this would've been right before she was on another NBC soap "Hidden Faces". A very quick image search on Google turns up this photograph for comparison.

I would say that was almost definitely her. I'm still kind of stunned I didn't catch Lanna Saunders as the other niece as well! Such great actresses in such short-term roles. They really were spoiled in this era.

Already missing Bethel Leslie as Maggie. There's something so very mature, commanding, and yet so vulnerable about Bethel Leslie's Maggie that I find so very compelling. I hope Lydia Bruce wows me the same way once she appears. Quite tragic Kathleen Murray's story. Had she been struggling with her illness by this point, or did she rapidly deteriorate? Had she been diagnosed at this point, if anyone knows?

Rick Edelstein is listed as story editor. He became co-headwriter in 68.

Was it common practice on the 30 min shows for headwriters to actually write all the scripts or at the most have one sub writer?

Yes. It was essentially the practice for a long time for the show to hire the head writer, who would then be responsible to hire a team under them. I believe this changed after the 1981 WGA strike, as the production companies wanted to end what they saw as "the tyranny of the headwriter". There was an article from one of the soap mags in the 90s talking about this, and how it's basically meant all the soaps are written by committee and have lost all their individuality in the process. I'll see if I can track it down.

Thanks.

Look how close those soaps were.

That's an incredibly strong block for CBS. Essentially the same viewership across the entire afternoon! Amazing!

LOL @ Nick, talking about Steve "Old Rich".

Karen is such a stereotype of a hard, German woman. It's offputting when contrasted to the realistic writing for the others on the show.