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48 minutes ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Could they afford that now lol

I assume not, since it would now be a tough budget choice between a  necklace or a set.

18 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

 

 

If they're smart, it'll be John's baby with Danielle Tremayne, but considering who's writing this show, it'll be another retcon alien baby from Mars or Kristen's Parisian miscarriage being undone. 

ETA: Just re-read this. Another retcon baby for Marlena? How does one woman have so many holes in her memory without being institutionalized??

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Like so many of Days' writing regimes, they started off strong and then they just fell apart. It's just they fell apart a lot sooner than others did. I actually liked Madison and I didn't want them to get rid of her. 

 

Ian, I barely remember what his deal was. He was the son of Stefano's father's mistress or something like that and he was plotting to steal the Dimera fortune so he faked written letters that said that Stefano wasn't EJ's real father or something. And that caused Stefano to turn his back on EJ. It was a very piss poor story that's better left forgotten. I can see why Joe Mascolo didn't like it either.

I remember everyone just wondering why, after Tony, Kristen, and Peter, suddenly NOW blood matters to Stefano? It was incredibly bizarre, especially for someone who was part of the writing team when Kristen, Peter and Tony were there like Marlene had been. 

2 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Yes, but her story went nowhere too. It makes you wonder how much behind the scenes interference there was.

There definitely was there too. I remember how she was meant to be a powerful rival to Kate, and all she did was hang off Brady like an extra appendage and be scared of Ian. Remember her ex-husband Ian with the Phoenix on his cane (I think), and he was somehow tied to Stefano, and THAT got buried. I suspect that had something to do with the conspiracy against Sarah Brown, but that's, again, speculation.  

I consider that year a "lost year". The only thing that really lasted from that era was Sami as a businesswoman, John & Marlena being back in town, and Horton Town Square. You could feel so much potential and it was all just lost.

5 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

It's time to Kill useless Katie off.  They have nothing for her to do and there's no reason she needs to survive this!

Oh they do every year around this time. Have an organ fail so someone and sob through their botox at her for a couple weeks. She's quite useful in this regard!

Just now, DRW50 said:

 

I don't remember her AMC run having anything especially notable with gay characters, although it's been years. 

 

I will admit I just never got the hype with that team, period, so I'm biased. 

Not with gay characters, no, I just sort of meant more of a generally more provocative, modern type of story being told there, while at DAYS she seemed incapable of getting any story moving at all.

1 hour ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

Just as importantly, Pat Falken Smith was fired as head writer, and a stream of hacks took over, initiating all sorts of campy (i.e. STOOPID) plots which started to drive even the most patient viewers away.

The Corringtons seem to have been lured over to replace Racina after The Ice Princess ended. The month they took over, the show instantly collapsed in the ratings, and seems to have taken OLTL (who's been a solid #2 under O'Shea/Hall) with them. This appears to have caused ABC to panic, since shortly thereafter, O'Shea is out, and Henry Slesar's in at that point.

Just now, Soapsuds said:

I wonder if thats why her Days was so boring...boring as hell. All her stories were shut down. Remember all the promises she made in that interview with Errol? None of them happened...

Exactly. And the feeling I got watching it every day was that a story would start, barely start to build, then it would either be totally dropped or would disappear for six weeks, and be resolved in one episode. Remember the online gambling ring story with Will, Sonny, Chad, and co.? I remember it just starting up, the casting calls were made for the hackers and suddenly this one episode happens about a month in, where these never-before-seen clips started the show as being "previously on Days of Our Lives", and the whole story was literally wrapped up in the rest of that hour, never to be mentioned again.

The Johnny-goes-missing thing was another weird one. It seemed to be building that Johnny was going to be kidnapped or something big was gonna happen to him, and a full week into the story...oh he's hiding under the table at the pub, we just missed him! LOL STORY OVER. It just reeked of stories being squashed as they were going to air, and frankly, considering what she was able to do at AMC, I can't lay the blame for that at MMP's feet.

6 minutes ago, juppiter said:

 

Tale as old as time, the frauen just didn’t have Facebook back in the day! 

 

Still astounds me though that these same women claim they've been "watching since 1965", sat through two Horton women fall in love with immediate family (at least Doug and Julie were step-father-and-daughter, but still...), an entire decade where every woman was brutally raped every six months, a devil possession, and a partridge in a pear tree, but TWO MEN BARELY TOUCHING EACH OTHER ONCE A WEEK is a step too far.

Pandering to this lot is what's gonna get this show canned. Their ONLY chance at this point is if they really go hog-wild with the controversy, but I doubt that's gonna happen and instead we'll just get a bi-monthly cycle of "who did Rolf reanimate this week?" until the show ends. 

42 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think there ever would have been a plan to have EJ and Will sleep together. EJ was one of the show's main leading men. I feel like they mostly just saw Will's sexuality as something to pay lip service to, rather than some bold story choice that was stomped out by Corday and/or Sony and NBC.

I suppose not officially, no. The only things that lead me to believe they were heading that way was down to how CM and JS played off each other during Marlene McPhereson's tenure, plus her run at AMC which was far more daring, what with the sex trafficking story and whatnot. I recall her wanting to push DAYS in this direction of being more daring, and modern, but it never showed on screen, presumably due to the interference.

But of course, it's purely speculation on my end, and Corday, of course, wants to take exactly zero risks with the show, lest he offend the cranky old hens who complain in all caps on Facebook about "smut on their screens". 

10 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

If an actor playing a gay character isn't willing to actually kiss another guy on the lips, it's time to recast. It's not like Freddie and Chandler are anything special in the acting department anyway. Will and Sonny have horrible chemistry and the chin kisses make it even worse.

Oh come on, it works for Shawn Mendes and Camilla Cabello, why not them? 
 

But in all seriousness, I am pretty sure the intention was to "go there" with Will and EJ, but it was probably part of the interference Marlene McPhereson went on about when she left in 2012. Can't have your leading man kissing boys, you know!

Yeah, that's enough of that, goodnight.

4 minutes ago, te. said:

 

I swear they will have Jack die from a meteor crashing on him, him crawling out of the fire pit and getting attacked an mauled by a tiger (while still on fire) before accidentally landing in a guillotine and getting his head chopped off. Then you have Jennifer walking around with said fire burnt, tiger-mauled chopped off head around Salem for three months before Jack turns up alive again.

I'd say "don't give Ron any ideas" but they'd never have the budget to do anything like this.

2 hours ago, te. said:

This is Days. No one believes Will is dying, or even if he was he'd be back within three months.

 

As other people said, if they were going to pull this trainwreck of a storyline they could've at least made it enjoyable.

Yep. The worst thing this show ever did (and that's saying a lot) was have Rolf invent that zombie vaccine. There is literally no stakes to death anymore, and this is coming from a show that killed and then unkilled 70% of their vets not 15 years ago.

No impact whatsoever. I would love it if the Rolf diary mysteriously disappeared in the DiMera fireplace, and the hospital server is corrupted and no one ever speaks of the damned injection ever again, but even then, it's too late for this show. They've reached a threshold where they've shocked their way into audience indifference. Nothing matters and nothing has any impact and no event, no matter how big, inspires the audience. All because they worked so hard to be SO SHOCKING, so EXTREME with their shocks and twists, so often that there's nowhere to go but down.

I would say "my" shows were DAYS (obviously), GL, OLTL, GH, and Y&R. When I first started watching soaps, it was GL that hooked me first, and then DAYS that really stuck with me. I was never a traditional male, and frankly, I was never bothered by it. My mom and grandparents were fine with just letting me be me, bless them.

I don't really watch DAYS as much as I used to (frankly, Ron's writing exhausts me), and Y&R bores me to tears, I can't sit through an episode. But I check in, and love to read about what's going on.

IMO, the half hour is entirely B&B has remained as successful as it has been. 25 minutes and a smaller cast are way easier to get sucked into every day than a full hour commitment. The writing is also (usually) better. Unfortunately, this isn't the case for B&B, but...

On 4/3/2019 at 3:48 PM, amybrickwallace said:

 

I never saw Patrick Muldoon when he originated the role, but Austin Peck's take on the character was that he was always dumb as a post. How many times over the years did Sami pull the wool over his eyes?

I'm watching 1992 right now (thanks to a dear friend), and Austin started off smart enough to pull off a gambling operation out of Johnny Angel's, and he was (to my surprise) a gifted jazz musician (as was Curtis, who was supposed to be dead at this point? That obviously was retconned under JER).

I do wish they'd kept that part of Austin's character as the years went on, as he became a complete himbo without any real interests or personality during JER (and every regime thereafter). I could see Patrick Muldoon having some heat with KDP once Eve came back (I could see Austin playing piano for Eve at Club TBD/Doug's Place and they get cozy while Carrie and Rafe have an affair).

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

I could be crazy but I think they broke up Don and Marlena because they wanted to give DH a younger love interest after she became super popular.   The early 80's had so many casting changes and I feel like they were beginning to start phasing Don out.  Giving him B stories like the Maggie romance.  Once WN's Roman caught on there was no need to go back to Don and Marlena.

Conversely,  they hired Eileen to give Drake a younger love interest because TPTB thought Deidre was too old.  JER is the one that went full force with J&M.   I honestly never thought Marlena looked older than John.  I think Deidre looked pretty ageless until the last few years.

Actually, I just figured JER needed someone to fill the spot Isabella held in the Roman/Marlena/John/Isabella quad. She filled the same duties in the story (daughter of an enemy of John's, though by that point, Victor had been defanged). The only real difference is that I can't see Isabella becoming the desperate villain Kristen became, though I'm sure fighting Marlena for John's affections for that many years could potentially do it to anyone. It could have proven a much more compelling story had Isabella gone to the dark side, given the more extended history, as well as the added leverage of Isabella also having John's child. Long term, that rivalry could have carried over into Brady and Belle, though, knowing Reilly, he'd never go into it with the depth that kind of storytelling would require.

4 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Haha I'm glad you're a fan of my work, and I'm glad the psychology of Y&R's music is working on you! Just goes to show how influential Y&R's rich music history really is. If I had the necessary experience and education, I would work by Mike Dobson as Y&R's assistant music director (or something like that) in a heartbeat.

In fairness, I was always more of a Y&R fan than a GH fan anyway (though I've enjoyed both shows in my time). For me, Y&R's intensity is what really draws me in, and you manage to harness to heighten that quality in  the GH scenes. Can't wait to see what else you come up with.

Can I just say, the music added so much to the scenes. I felt myself getting sucked into the story in a way I know I'd never do if I were watching the show unedited. You've got a real talent!

On 8/28/2018 at 4:47 PM, Soaplovers said:

I had heard that Oakdale was stationed closer to Peoria in Illinois.

And to further confuse the issue, I just watched a 1980 episode of The Edge of Night that cited Oakdale as a suburb of Monticello!

6 minutes ago, Khan said:

I am so damn sick and tired of people taking it upon themselves to dictate what is and is not appropriate for this-or-that thread, as if they own this godforsaken board.

 

You don't think this is the right time or place to discuss TPTB's treatment of KSJ, Victoria Rowell or any other African-American actors, in daytime or in general?  Fine.  Duly noted.  Now, either ignore the ongoing discussion, or participate in a different thread.  Either way, shut the hell up -- because, frankly, my dear, no one gives a damn.

 

 

Believe me, if KSJ has gone to "a better place," then he's resting just fine.

7 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

It is. DAYS airs nationally on the Canadian Global Television Network.

Yeah, it's been on Global for decades, and we get it on NBC affiliates via cable/sattelite as well.

33 minutes ago, BellaCuore said:

 

I never said you couldn't. I just felt there is a time and place as this is his thread to honor him that was all....

 

I guess we just see it different as this is about his resting in peace thread. I guess you don't see it that way but that is OK.....

 

I may not agree with you but it that is OK.....I also may not agree about certain other things but I am for civil rights for ALL people.... was brought up that way wouldn't ever change that.... then again even if I wasn't I know my heart and mind would have been that way already....I also may not agree that everything had to do with race …..but I am I really good and fair person who doesn't label races EVER and loves people who are good nomatter their race,  religion.

 

No point in carrying on, I am sure you get my point....

 

May Kristoff rest peacefully

You know, you don't HAVE to have the last word, right??