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So corday gave an interview on Aussie TV...
This is why this man should retire. FFS.
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3 hours ago, Khan said:
DAYS needs to get realistic about their budgetary concerns and, in the words of Steve Martin, "think small." Stop trying to tell these outlandish storylines that require bigger casts and more or larger sets in order to be successful. Get back to telling stories about people -- three-dimensional, relatable people -- that feel rooted in the everyday. No more brainwashes, and no more back-from-the-deads.
The only person who seemed to understand the constraints of the production model was the person who created it. Tomlin's run as HW, for all its problems, understood what kind of story would work within the constraints of the model and wrote to it.
Even the initial run of the model, when DH was writing under Tomlin, managed to make it work, and they were initially rewarded in the ratings for it, much like Tomlin's first year or so as HW. Sure, the wheels eventually fell off the wagon both times, but there was absolutely a sense that they knew what they could and couldn't do that has really fallen by the wayside since the 50th anniversary. Beginning about then, I started noticing more and more scenes that felt needlessly cut, moments that seemed simple to shoot but were not shot.
I remember during the Orpheus redux a few years ago, where they were planting bombs all over Salem, and one went off near Marlena's penthouse, apparently breaking the window and knocking Paul unconscious. We didn't see the explosion in any way, just Paul laying in the middle of the room with some ketchup on his forehead, then Sonny running in, Paul wakes up and EXPLAINS what just happened. All it would've taken was a flash of light, a window to smash, and add the explosion sounds in post-production, but apparently this was too much for them. That was when I realized they really were overreaching for their production constraints when they couldn't even pull a scene like THAT off.
If you have to TELL the audience the action in your story instead of showing it, you might as well not bother.0 -
3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
Julie saying Chiquita all the time and the way she would poke at Gabi with
the pronunciation of Hernandez....really hit a nerve with me. I never said anything about it on here because no one really brought it up and I found Julie's behavior very offensive and racist.
It's rubbed me entirely the wrong way as well, but I tend to very rarely run my mouth here, I save it for Twitter, largely. But I have finally had it. I get that they wanted to have that moment where someone important to the audience would have that awkward conversation with their family etc. But Julie was way OTT and the entirely wrong character to take in this direction. It's stupid.
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2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
Just so they can give racist Julie his heart.
No not trying...just a horrific mess.
The writing of Julie, along with the ridiculous writing for Lani and Eli in this story has been egregious, and a prime example of exactly why you need non-white faces in your writing rooms. Julie has been written as a cartoon character shlubby suburbanite Trumpette under Ron, and it's offensive. Particularly when contrasting to Julie in the 80s-90s, who grew into a sophisticated club owner and businesswoman. Now, granted, what I saw of her mostly was her 1990-92 run, so I'm mostly going off that, but I adored her during that run, and what I've seen from before then is more or less in line with that. Julie today is absolutely NOTHING like the Julie I've been watching in any other era.
Yes, Julie could be written as racist, but in my eyes, it would be that subtle, microaggression-heavy bourgeois racism most would barely notice until you pointed it out, and even then you'd have a bit of a moment where you weren't really sure. Obviously, Ron doesn't deal in subtlety, so we get everything short of Julie in a MAGA cap.
Then having Eli and Lani have to tiptoe around her to spare her precious feelings when calling her out, then spending all their time handwringing over whether they were too mean to her when they barely ever addressed the problem in the first place? Nah, miss me with that. Ron has gotta stop trying to do racially conscious stories if he isn't gonna hire more PoC in the writing room. At the very least getting folks in there who better understand the nuances of what's going on in the world, or nuance in general.0 -
1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:
That those he said saved had 1% life in them left or something like that and Stefan had 0% life. I mean when you die there is no percent of you alive....lol
LOL they aren't even trying anymore. Pathetic.
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15 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
I had to laugh at Rolf explanation on why he couldn't save Stefan. Just awful writing.
What was it? I've given up on this show for the foreseeable future, but I just wanna know the loophole they're using that they'll forget about in three months.
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Just now, Soapsuds said:
Ikea? Nope....anyways I need my check...if they are going to use the likeness of my bedroom as their set I need to get paid here...
Haha, I only make that crack as I work for Ikea and I have definitely recognized pieces in more than one set. Besides, consider DAYS' budget nowadays, that one check could probably singlehandedly bankrupt the entire production!
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7 hours ago, Franko said:
Interesting that LOVING's not included. Did it not count because of the 11:30 a.m. timeslot? I'm so fascinated by how many of these shows were able to shed, then regain, viewers. I wonder if audience members did a lot more sampling or casual viewing in those days.
I'm guessing because of the delay between the release of the ratings and their press time, the October issue was likely for the week before Loving's premiere? it's either that or they just forgot them that month LOL
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Just now, Soapsuds said:
I noticed that Gabi and Stefan's bedroom ensemble is the same as mine. Shouldn't I be getting some kind of check?...lol
I dunno, there's only so many ways to arrange Ikea furniture
No shade intended, I promise.0 -
Apologies if this has been answered before, but I genuinely forget. Did Phelice Sampler quit DAYS or was she fired? I suspect the latter because of the rumours she was hell to work with on set, but honestly, as much as her murder would make sense after this scene, I see so much more potential for her character. Her trying to exact revenge against Alex, and a long-term triangle between her, Tony and Anna would've been great to watch.
It also doesn't help that Renee's murder kicked off one of the dumbest serial killer storylines of all time and introduced the magical DiMera mask that alters people's heights, a trope we're still stuck with in 2019.0 -
1 minute ago, ChitHappens said:
Oh hell no!
I just find Laura Wright's Carly very shrill, whereas I could actually feel something for SJB underneath the layers of nasty.
Jason still needs to face consequences tho. I'll never be able to get behind a hitman who doesn't know what a smile is being the hero of the bloody show.0 -
11 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:
Oh no...can we keep Carly and Jason
Only if we recast Snarly back to SJB and either finally give Jason his memories back or have him actually face consequences.
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All I want is Sonny, Jason, Franco and Carly gone. They may be mostly vets at this point, but IMO they're irredeemable, and unpleasant to watch, so much so that even if Pat Falken Smith herself rose from the dead and took over the writers room for the next ten years, I don't think she could save them.
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Yes. We mentioned it on Page 64 of this very thread, in fact.
I suspect Vanessa wouldn't have been inspired to post what she had had you not posted nearly 650 times in the past 20 days. I think we all appreciate your passion but maybe try to cool it a bit. We would like to also read others' perspectives as well.0 -
3 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:
The consensus seems to be that Hogan was strong in his first year then things went south.
Maybe because he (and a lot of other modern writers) forget that soaps go on and on and what might be a great story for the here and now doesn't work over the longer term.
Hence the many retcons and past events being ignored because they contradict or repeat what went before.
I remember Dena Higley expressing frustration when she presented a storyline to TPTB and being asked 'then what happens?
There is also, I find, a tendency in modern writing across genres to deconstruct. Guza did this a lot with the initial Carly/Tony/Bobbie story on GH. The extreme fall from grace that "changes everything" and "lives get torn apart". It's entertaining, it often mines the history of the show to drive it forward, etc.
But then they forget that once it's broken, it needs to be either pieced together again, or rebuilt into something new, and I don't think a lot of these writers are particularly interested in any type of building. Their energies go 98% into the destruction and the aftermath just sits there, and that's not fun to watch, to me anyway. There's no growth, there's nothing that makes me hopeful, happy, or inspired.0 -
1 minute ago, Bright Eyes said:
Vivian and Eve are exiting the show.
Give them six months, they'll be back.
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Face it, Bonnie is his replacement for Roxie, and he's just giddy at having Blair and Dorian back. I'll be shocked if Florencia Lozano isn't playing Hope by next year and in a bitter triangle with Eve over Brady, now played by a finally-fired-by-GH Roger Howarth, of course.
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48 minutes ago, Faulkner said:The restoration of testosterone to the show's men is one of Sheffer's most urgent concerns. "When I first started here," he says, "I used to sit and point to the list of male characters and say, 'No dick, no dick, no dick, no dick, no dick.' It's one of the reasons that daytime shows go south -- the men are turned into whining idiots while their women run amok. You can't write scenes where the men say, 'Why don't you love me? What can I do to help you?' It's horrible." Sheffer was trying to figure out ways that men could demonstrate attachment without talking about it. There had been a lot of daring rescues lately.
See, this is the stuff that bugs me. Because, yes, the men shouldn't ALWAYS be weak. But when that's your main objective is that NONE of the men can EVER be weak...well, that's just pathological. I appreciate that Sheffer would amplify the female writers' voices in the writing room, but his particular concern with the strength of the men was always offputting to me.0 -
22 minutes ago, Wendy said:
I don't care what actors want. Bonnie is a f-u-c-k-i-n-g CARTOON. Adrienne actually has a great back story and history. The writers are just too damned lazy to spice her up.
And they can't be bothered to write a character based story with an inch of depth, which would allow Judi as Adrienne to shine. There's only campy hijinks left, so I guess its a paycheque.
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3 hours ago, Bright Eyes said:
His original plans for DAYS were very promising. I also enjoyed his beginnings on Y&R. And whatever good or bad he did to ATWT, he definitely gave the show a jolt of energy and a watercooler buzz.
I can't help but think of his brother who I enjoyed on One Tree Hill. Rest in Peace.
I'm unfamiliar with his plans for DAYS, though I know the outcome. What were they?
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According to SoapHub (and, from the looks of it, Tom Casiello's twitter) Hogan Sheffer's died.
https://soaphub.com/young-restless/hogan-sheffer-veteran-soap-head-writer-passes-away-at-61/0 -
Seriously. Enough. Not every thought that comes into your head needs to be posted. I'm sorry but please just stop.
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I'm sorry I'm being really blunt here but why are you posting blog posts in the discussion forums, while going into nearly 15 year old blogs by long-deserted posters and leaving unrelated comments on them?
I know you're as passionate as the rest of us, but I'm really confused by your behaviour around here as of late.
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2 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:
Has days always been campy like this? Or was it taken more seriously
It was...in 1979.
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Except it didn't, really. They'd been consistently #5 ever since Carly was buried alive. The story wasn't necessary, it didn't affect anything long term, and it ended up running too long and negatively impacting their ratings for the first part 96.