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On 4/29/2019 at 11:28 PM, watson71 said:
Another World premiered on May 4, 1964- 55 years ago this week. What do you consider the 55 most significant events in AW history? I created the list below in order of importance.
1. Rachel kills Janice Frame trying to save Mac.
2. Rachel tells Alice that she is pregnant with Steve's child.
3. The death of Mac Cory.
4. Mac learns that Rachel is carrying Mitch's baby on the witness stand.
5. Pat Matthews has an illegal abortion in 1964.
6. The death of Ada Hobson.
9. Donna Love learns she gave birth to twins Marley and Victoria
10. Felicia's friends stage an intervention for her alcoholism.
11. Grant shoots Ryan on the train trestle.
13. Crystal Gayle and Gary Morris sing the Another World theme at TOPS.
15. Carl and Rachel's courtship in New York City.
18. Hour long experimental episode- the wedding of Alice and Steve - 1974
19. The 25th Anniversary of Victoria Wyndham as Rachel Cory Hutchins
I have this on DVD & it is so oodly scrumptious! Special thanks to Eddie & other fans who came up with the clips to have it made. Wiping had done its due.
Quote22. Cecile is alive in Majorca; Sally and Catlin discover that Emily Benson is the killer
23. Sally and Catlin's wedding- Brittany is alive
24. Paulina Cory shoots Jake McKinnon
26. The death of William Matthews begins the continuing story of Another World.
27. Cecile almost marries Peter Love before he collapses on Carl's yacht
28. The double wedding of Mac and Rachel and Sandy and Blaine
29. Ada gives birth to Nancy in a late in life pregnancy
30. The 30th Anniversary of Another World- the 60s party
31. The Case of the Stolen Heart
32. Murder on the Honeymoon Express- The Vanishing Game
33. Lorna Devon is the daughter of Felicia and Lucas.
34. Vicky "dies" and is reunited with Ryan in heaven.
This is the best of JB. I could do without JB except for the Ryan & Vicky in heaven stuff.
Quote35. Felicia is framed for the murder of Jason Frame
36. Liberace entertains at Felicia and Zane's wedding.
38. Vicky is rescued by Ryan riding horses in the field
39. Iris gives Rachel the audio tapes of Alice and Eliot
40. The final episode of Another World June 25, 1999
Really, two days.
Quote41. Sally Frame Ewing dies in a car crash
42. Cecile kidnaps Cass and takes him to St. Thomas
44. Rachel gives Alice a nervous breakdown
45. The death of Wallingford
46. Amanda is pregnant with Sam's baby.
47. Jamie falls for Marley in the French Riviera
48. John Hudson is thrown from the lighthouse by the Sin Stalker- Dr. Alan Glaser
MDP loved writing serial killers & rapits. David O'Brien could act anything that was writte for him.
On 5/6/2019 at 4:54 PM, amybrickwallace said:Yes, I remember hearing that part and that Lemay found it unintentionally hilarious.
Easy to imagine! Poor Val Du Four.
Great list watson.
Is anyone aware of any vido clips of the KBAY Telethon or the "special" shows like Murder on the Orient Express?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcEWmeAD1rQ
July 4th Telethon Part 1
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6 hours ago, titan1978 said:
I think Gloria had an eye for talent, and could spot chemistry, and knew what to do with it. Because even when her show was not well written (outside of Marland’s tenure and both of Falken-Smith’s), it was still compelling and entertaining television.
As far as Luke goes- the Labine era made me love him. He was still dangerous (all that Frank Smith stuff), and wasn’t really a “hero”, but he had so many rich relationships and had chemistry with all of them. Sonny, Lucy, Bobbie, Lucky, Tony, Robin, Stone- not just with Laura. I loved his relationships with those people.
Another thing I've read about Monty is what she did first & that was re-light the show. If the set were all dark when she got there & the ratings were in the toilet, then, you know, morale was abysmal when she came on. I've always wondered if that "smart cookie" exec in the movie TOOTSIE was an intentional homage to Monty.
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So, today, we're looking at a heart transplant. Hmmm. Will Julie be strong enough to sustain one? Boy, Hope got to blubbering! I remember when she was a little girl & couldn't stand Julie because Julie wasn't her mother. She just needed Addie to be there or no one. Gosh, she was so spoiled then, which was all Doug's doing.
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9 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:
Yeah, Taylor Miller had two strikes against her going in - she wasn't Mary Page Keller, and she was too closely identified with AMC's Nina Cortlandt Warner.
Yeah, I loved and adored Mary Page Keller! Frankly, I love that they are still married! And,, I love getting to see her in an occasional guest shot.
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40 minutes ago, DRW50 said:
I mostly remember Smythe's Peter as a boo hiss baddie. Holder I think was probably a bigger villain, instead of just being under his father's thumb, but I think Holder was able to balance it off with his looks and charisma.
Well, this is going to sound tacky, but he just had such an enormous head!
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David Hedison, who was fired by JFP because of his age. (Barbara Berjer, too.) has 2 daughters. His daughter, Alexandra Hedison is married to Jodie Foster.
SoapDope:
This is the south. We are proud of our crazy people. We don't lock them in the attic. We like to bring them down to the livingroom and show them off.
Not the porch? LOL
I got the news last week.
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Here's a quote/unquote from a very old book about GH & Gloria Monty, etc.
Warning: There could be errors.
Inside the Soaps by Paul Denis © 1985
GH: Gloria Monty
GH began on April Fools' Day in 1963. The show kept falling in audience ratings so ABC network brought in a NY producer, Gloria Monty, in 1978, to wrap up the storylines and close out the show. But Miss Monty amazed ABC by saving GH, working closely with HW Doug Marland and focusing on the Luke and Laura storyline. Luke, played by Tony Geary fell in love with a married girl, Laura, played by Genie Francis. He was from the wrong side of the tracks. She was upper class. Her parents were wealthy doctors. He raped her, though she didn't resist too much. Instead, she fell in love with her rapist. And, apparently the show's viewer loved it so much that the show became #1 in the Nielsens. The Luke rape became the soaps' first "acquaintance rape," and Geary became the most popular actor on the soaps.0 -
On 8/20/2011 at 12:36 AM, Marco Dane said:
Love this scene of gh
http://youtu.be/YaIavruefVE?t=3m32s
Gyah! I have been trying to get on this thread since supper! Whew. For starters, yes, I agree but with some serious qualifications - I do not think she was brilliant. - I do not think she was a visionary. - She was a journeyman workhorse Director at a few soaps & then they grabbed her up & said, "Here, be a Producer," And, then, they said, we'll give you *this* much time & then we're cancelling this soap. They meant it too. Now, she also meant it when she said she didn't even like soaps! But, she knew how to do things & who to hire. People think that the biggest thing she did was to introduce the sci-fi element. Not true. Yes, she did do
that. And, she did point Luke & Laura on their way to romance & adventure. They didn't spend the night in that department store for no reason! And, she changed the narrative, which is huge. Compare the narrative to ATWT, GL and DOOL! Last up, she changed the pace of the show & literally flew with it! And, lo & behold, she had done it!
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28 minutes ago, DRW50 said:
The standouts for me were the scenes with Nancy, Ada and Rachel. Nancy is a bit insufferable, but Jane Cameron works so well with Constance Ford and Vicky Wyndham. There's something very natural and very special about Wyndham's interactions with Rachel's loved ones that she never really got credit for. Her scene with Nancy is so natural I almost wonder if parts were ad-libbed. And Ford is just amazing, as always. AW was so lucky to have her and I'm glad, for all the huge upheaval over the years, they always seemed to know that.
Grant feels like more wasted potential, which happened over and over and over with AW and their black cast in the '80s and early '90s.
Acting-wise, Taylor Miller is very good in the marital drama with Catlin, but I can see why viewers wouldn't connect to her. As for Catlin himself - something in the acting and writing has always felt a bit shaky to me about him, to be honest, although I can see why he was so popular.
Completely agree with you about Rachel, Ada & Nancy in all of this. Also about AW wasting black characters. Taylor, no, I don't see good acting in her. And, Ian, well, I always thought he was very talented. I'm not at all surprised that he still finds work.
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On 10/3/2005 at 8:48 PM, WTGH said:
Post what song you're currently listening to and whether others should check it out!
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1 minute ago, Xanthe said:
Peter was her second string if she couldn't get Catlin. Catlin was her first choice but he wanted to stay with Sally (as we see in this episode) even though he had cheated on her with Brittany.
Zane had been in love with her but fortunately she never tried to trick him into thinking he could be the father of her baby.
Thanks.
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On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:
The following are from Another World:
Victoria Wyndham- Rachel Cory Hutchins, Justine Duvalier
Tom Eplin- Jake McKinnon, Bunny Eberhardt, Doris Pepperdine
Marcia McCabe played Bunny Eberhardt, didn't she?
On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:Stephen Schnetzer- Cass Winthrop, Krystal Lake, Rex Allingham
Ellen Wheeler, Anne Heche, and Jensen Buchanan- Marley and Vicky
Often, they automatically said, "Krystal with a K Lake."
Rhonda Llewin and Cynthia Watros
On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:Joe Morton- Dr. Abel Marsh, Leo Mars
Eric Morgan Stuart- Chris Madison, The Love Lady
John Aprea- Lucas, Alexander Nikos
Lewis Arlt- David Thatcher, Ken Jordan
He was also on the Writing Team.
On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:Doris Belack- Madge Murray, Nora Simpson
Roberts Blossom- Bert Ordway, Sven Petersen
John Bolger- Dr. Alton Spader, Gabe McNamara
Carla Borelli- Reena Bellman Cook, Barbara Van Arkdale
J. Kenneth Campbell- Yohann/Herman Ludwig, Jordan Scott
Gary Carpenter- Ray Gordon, Michael Bauer
John Considine- Reginald Love, Vic Hastings
Elizabeth Franz- Alma Rudder, Belia Pirenko
Ed Fry- Mayoral candidate Chandler Haines, Adam Cory
Sofia Landon Geier- Donna Love, Jennifer Thatcher
She was also on the Writing Team.
On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:Robert Gentry- Detective Craig Morris, Philip Lyons
Christine Jones- Janice Frame, Amy Cushing
Robert Kelker-Kelly- Shane Roberts, Sam Fowler
And, a third, Bobby Reno, which we tended to pronounce like this "BobbaReno". And, while I'm expressing an opinion, many of us thought that if RKK wanted to come back onto the show that it should have been as Sam again!
On 8/19/2019 at 10:13 PM, watson71 said:David Andrew MacDonald- Jordan Stark, David Halliday
Beverlee McKinsey- Iris Wheeler, Emma Frame Ordway
Lenka Peterson- Helen D'Angelo, Marie Fenton
Peter Ratray- Christophe Boudreau, Quentin Ames
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On 1/30/2018 at 11:24 PM, Soapsuds said:
Listening to music as I post on SON. Love finding hard to find music online.
Like what?
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22 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:
I think I may have said this before, but it's like the character of Brittany underwent a complete change under every writer. It was like they didn't know what to do with her.
Thanks for posting! Always great to see rediscovered episodes.
Maybe that's why I so disliked Brittany. Who is her #2 man? And, yes, thanks for posting. Who uploaded it? AW 12-17-85 in 3 parts.
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On 10/3/2005 at 8:48 PM, WTGH said:
Post what song you're currently listening to and whether others should check it out!
I posted a clip of Diahann Carroll RIP singing the lead in the musical "No Strings" in her death thread. Wow, everyone should hear it! She was an amazing singer & performer!
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20 hours ago, Donna B said:
Excited this morning to run into ex-SPW Editor Mimi Torchin's FB post about Diahann Carroll:
So sad to learn that the great Diahanne Carroll has died at 84. I saw her in one of my earliest Broadway shows, No Strings, and fell instantly (that voice, that face!) and lastingly in love with her. She was a great talent and a trailblazer, and she will be missed.
Yes, trailblazer, there's another adjective we can add to the long list that begins with legend & icon.
https://worldofwonder.net/remembering-diahann-carroll-rip-in-no-strings/
Remembering Diahann Carroll (RIP) in “No Strings”
By Stephen Rutledge on October 4, 2019 12:45 pm
Carroll and Kiley, 1962, via YouTube
Remember when Americans thought France was simply swell? When there were books, movies and Broadway musicals devoted to celebrating la différence between Parisians and Americans?
No Strings (1962) is a musical, which among its many novelties, features both words and lyrics by Richard Rodgers, a composer remembered mostly as part of a team, first with Lorenz Hart and later with Oscar Hammerstein; and the orchestrations that call for no string instruments. No Strings returns to the Rodger’s swinging pre-Hammerstein days of the 1920s and 1930s, when urbanity was considered a virtue. But this musical is important because Rodgers showed that he was savvy about social change.
No Strings, with a book by Samuel A. Taylor, is about an affair between a young fashion model and an older novelist. It presents romance as a sparkling, yet stinging thing, with a score that is equal parts mordant and moody, from the hymn to hedonism, Eager Beaver, to the dark, wistful Sweetest Sounds.
It is pre-Hair, the sort of musical where its drop-dead gorgeous female lead is mentored by a French connoisseur of women who demands no sexual favors in return; where she says sincerely: ”I still have so much to learn about wine and art.”
When No Strings was being produced, the issue of Civil Rights, voter registration for blacks, integration, and fairness and equality in the workplace, was starting to gain momentum in the USA, but it was a topic rarely tackled on Broadway.
Neither the book nor score make mention of race, nor does it impact upon any decisions made by the romantic couple, but Rodgers still addressed the issue. Other than the model’s reference to her growing up north of Central Park (Harlem), there is nothing in the script to suggest she’s African-American. It was only in the casting of beautiful Diahann Carroll and masculine baritone Richard Kiley as lovers that the subject of interracial romance surfaced, but any production of the show easily could be cast with two leads of the same race without changing the content in any significant way. The casting was socially progressive at the time.
Rodgers got the idea for casting a black woman as the lead after seeing Carroll on The Tonight Show. He had seen her perform and knew he wanted to work with her and had her audition for the lead in Flower Drum Song in 1958, but she didn’t come across as Asian, as the role required. Can you believe that? Rodgers felt that the casting in No Strings spoke for itself and any specific references to race in the play were unnecessary. Rodgers:
”Rather than shrinking from the issue of race, such an approach would demonstrate our respect for the audience’s ability to accept our theme free from rhetoric or sermons.”
However, the characters’ reluctance to discuss race was just as controversial as the casting. The casting formula was repeated when Barbara McNair and Howard Keel replaced Carroll and Kiley in the run, Art Lund and Beverly Todd in the London production, and every revival I have ever encountered (No Strings deserves more revivals).
The musical opened on Broadway in 1962 and ran for 580 performances. It received a Tony Award nomination for Best Musical, Rodgers won for Best Score, and Joe Layton won for his choreography. There was also a Tony win for Carroll, a first for a black woman.
Ironically, a couple of years late, Warner Bros. discussed making a film version of No Strings, and Rodgers did nothing when the studio wanted to have Asian actor Nancy Kwan as the lead. Carroll found this out reading the morning paper.
Before No Strings, Carroll had appeared on Broadway in the much misunderstood but exotic musical House Of Flowers (1954) by Harold Arlen (music and lyrics) and Truman Capote (lyrics and book), based on his own short story.
Carroll appeared on stage in projects previously considered the territory for white actors: Same Time, Next Year (1977), Agnes Of God (1983), Sunset Boulevard (1995), and On Golden Pond (2004).
Diahann Carroll was taken by cancer on Friday, October 4.
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5 hours ago, katie_9918 said:
The only time I really care about from what I’ve seen so far is when he was with Paulina.
Jensen Buchanan’s Vicky, to me, was a complete villain protagonist and I just can’t get behind Jake and Ellen Wheeler’s Marley in 1999 because of the history there. And unfortunately the writers post-Jensen thought Jake was useless without Vicky.
I liked Jake with Molly on ATWT, part of the good things Hogan Sheffer did with that show (along with what should have been a crack pairing but wound up pretty good as long as it lasted Hal and Emily).
But I’m really sorry I can’t find that 1984 episode. It really was cute.
Of course, I’m also sorry there’s so little of Paul Stevens’ work as Brian Bancroft before 1981.
To me ENDGAME was Jake & Paulina. not Paulina with Ian Raines, not Paulina with Joe which is where she ended up. And, again to me, ENDGAME for Jake was Paulina not Vicky. However, Jake with Molly actually did work. JB's Vicky only worked with Ryan and that's why Vicky in heaven with Ryan worked so well! Michael Malone wrote Vicky and Jake as if they were living in their past. The show spent too much money and resources on JB! Tom Eplin had a real romance going with Lesli Kay, not the first time that had happened between him and a co-star. Tom took advantage of fan content, too. He got into trouble for being with a 16-year-old fan in Toronto. thinking she was 25.
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3 hours ago, victoria foxton said:
I liked Taylor Miller as Nina on AMC. But she was badly miscast as Sally. She had no chemistry with a yummy Catlin. It so weird seeing Peter being so nice to Brittany. Since he would later abuse her. Donna was such a snob. Got to love Brittany for standing up to her. The mother/daughter stuff with Ada & Nancy was well done.
I wasn't watching AMC when Taylor Miller was on there, although, of course I recognized her as being a non-Sally. We just had so many dang Sallys. Donna totally cracked me up. This was an early scene where she went from zero to bitch in 60 seconds and she was so over the top about it. She should have made one comment & then let it slide. However, good grief could Brittany not pick up a huge hint laying in the road?!!! Mebbe not. About that time Peter decides to get into it. Oy vey!
Yes, good stuff with Ada & Nancy.
35 minutes ago, Franko said:Thank you so much for that context. I was just going off of what was happening in that episode and decided Brittany seemed too dull for my liking. Donna may be a snob, but she's *my* snob, darn it!
Also, the next episode would be the last for this Peter, according to AWHP. In just over a month, Michael arrives. Reginald and Mary won't show up until next summer.
Wait a minute! She's my snob, too! I took it one step further: she's my bitch!
Xanthe: or someone, give my brain a Sunday night break since I have to go to bed soon & tell me who the other man in Brittany's life is. (I knew I would regret not paying more attention to Brittany! But, I just didn't like the lady.)
1 hour ago, katie_9918 said:There’s an episode from, I want to say 1984, because Carl was involved before he went completely nuts, that had a surprise party for Larry and included a dinner party involving Cecile, Peter, Mac, Rachel, Carl, and I think Felicia, that got booted off YT.
Larry was cute, busting on himself describing how he was practicing his big surprised face, only for Clarice to troll him for a scene and then Mayor Brian called up to troll him over the phone to get him to his real surprise party.
There was possibly also stuff going with Quinn and a blow-up clown in her car that was surprisingly terrifying and effective, if I’m not mixing up episodes.
I do hope that episode makes it back to YT, because it was delightful.
At some point they took down all the videos of Jake's funeral because of music rights. Remember it is set around that Rolling Stones' song, "You don't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you just might get what you need."
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12 hours ago, Donna B said:
Okay, from what I've found out, Bruce Barry directed this scene. That man was good. And, of course Grant & Crystal were.
A little more about Bruce Barry: he got to retire from soaps so he could go into theatre and indie projects. We can watch out for him! Oh, and his colleagues love him as much as we the fans do.
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3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:
Unlike many, Lenny Kravitz actually knew Carroll, for most of his life. Anyone who remembers the film Claudine may remember that his mother, the late great actress Roxie Roker was in Claudine.
CBS Sunday Morning - 2 we lost this week
American Black Film Festival
Our hearts are heavy today with the loss of a Hollywood icon and our friend Diahann Carroll. Her charisma, poise, and gracefulness will always be remembered. Thank you for sharing your talent with the world. Rest in peace.
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2 hours ago, victoria foxton said:
I don't think this has been on you tube before. Always wanted to see Grant Todd's death. Thanks DRW50
I never liked *this* Sally. Not keen on that Peter. Not keen on Brittany. Loved Catlin. We had *so* many Sallys! Overall, I am enjoying watching, though, even with it being chopped up into 10 minute clips. LOL. "I don't want her relish." Crack me up. I haven't seen this either.
20 minutes ago, DRW50 said:I wasn't being sarcastic. I was glad you hadn't seen it. Most of these episodes are reuploaded to death so I wasn't sure if this was one of them.
reuploaded to death?!!!
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Hmm, okay, did not work.
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On 12/3/2005 at 8:09 PM, WTGH said:
The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants: Some stories worked, others didn't.
I think they're planning to do a 3rd one of this.
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Another World
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLxyftmauTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nL_Sb91Gw
They used to provide Victoria with a car & a driver. Sometimes Charles rode with her. When they were together, they ran lines during the ride. When she was by herself she was reading scripts &/or writing scripts.
I don't know if people realize it but Vicky & Charles wrote for the show & worked with the younger cast members on their lines. Especially Maggies, of which there were 3. One Maggie was helpless. She just draped herself on the furniture, not really capable of doing any acting. She should have been employed as a model, not an actor. But, they tried to help, no matter what the level was.
A-yes! I say again that she went from zero to bitch in 60 seconds! Gyah, I loved Donna.