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16 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:
Harding Lemay also was taught the elements of daytime by Irna Phillips when he was hired.. where he was quoted as saying he learned what not to write. It doesn't sound like CJ was given a lesson on the elements of soap writing... or paired with an experienced soap writer like Michael Malone was in the early 90s.
Right, Lemay was literally tutored by Irna, even though they didn't get along very well and he only tolerated her for a short period of time. Who was Malone paired with? I knew he got a lot out of his acquaintance with Gottlieb but she was an EP, wasn't she? When Malone was at AW he was on his own -- and it showed!
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On 10/3/2005 at 10:47 PM, Faer said:
Say Anything
And of course it was just awesome - classic!
Haven't seen it in years but I loved that long speech about not wanting to do or sell or make or whatever whatever, etc. when he's out front with the boom box on his shoulders.
Also love Some Kind of Wonderful with Jane Eliott in it.
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2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:
That's for sure. From what I've seen and read, it seemed like things moved way too fast, like she had no sense of pacing or characterization at all. And yes, it did seem like the show got very dark in 1982, plus that was the year that Alma was introduced.
Okay, I think we have her number! Harding "Pete" Lemay may have very well been lightning in a bottle. He could write plays & he could teach at the university level & he could write memoirs but he could write for soaps, too, bigtime! Doesn't seem like she had the capacity. Wonder who talked her into trying it.
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12 hours ago, Khan said:
Nah, they'll just hang some "Paris"- esque posters they found while dumpster diving at Walmart.
I don't want that. I hope that is not what we get for our Christmas wishes. But, at this rate, I am hanging on for dear life, as they say, to life for Julie and health for Hope as my Christmas wish!
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On 10/11/2019 at 6:01 AM, AbcNbc247 said:
I know CJ was quoted in saying that she hated working on the show, but my question is why? Was there behind the scenes turmoil or was she just an egomaniac that thought she was better than soaps?
Well, she was an Obie and Tony award-winning playwright, who was known for writing very darkly. I think she wrote short stories which were then anthologized, too. None of that spells daytime drama to me.
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On 10/11/2019 at 8:28 PM, Donna B said:
Lucy Johnson, Laurence Caso, Felicia Mini Behr, Kenneth Fitts, Angela Shapiro, etc. were all network execs. There may be more.
- Bob Short was a P&G man. It was Bob Short who called Pete Lemay to tell him of Irna's death.
- Lucy Johnson was at ABC & was then moved over to CBS.
- Laurence Caso was a long-term EP at ATWT.
- Felicia Mini Behr was an ABC person who was moved over to CBS.
- Kenneth Fitts was a P&G person.
- Angela Shapiro was a higher-up at ABC.
- Young & Rubicam was an ad agency that was involved in the first ownership of AW. So was Irna, her brother Arno, her secretary, Rose, and Bill Bell, etc. A whole year went by before P&G actually owned AW.
When people were moved over from ABC to P&G/CBS it was referred to as the abc-ification of the network.
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7 minutes ago, sheilaforever said:
Maria Arena Bill. Brad Bell‘s sister in law and one time Y&R head writer and executive producer who had a perfect start but then lost her way
Thank you. I remember her whole name and I also remember people speaking about her in a positive manner that then turned into a negative manner. I always wonder if one person is up to being both the HW and the EP. What stories did she tell? What's she doing now?
Of course now Y&R has two EPs where one of them is a HW, too. Pratt & Phelps. As it happens I don't care for either one of them. The soap press calls them the most polarizing pair in daytime. That's a phrase for them to carry on their backs!
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Fred Silverman was early at CBS Daytime and then moved to ABC Daytime. While he was at ABC Daytime AW had ratings in the 8s and GH had ratings in the 7s and he hired Gloria Monty as EP at GH.
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Great pictures of him! In addition to what you've shown I enjoyed him in Mulholland Drive. Wasn't he in Heroes, too?
What a loss.
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24 minutes ago, slick jones said:
We look for ACCURATE INFORMATION. You spam thread after thread with misinformation.
That's simply not true. For starters, spamming is not an issue of accuracy. And beyond that I post more accurate information than not. Since I first got here you've taken a dislike to me. Whatever your reason is for that, you're entitled to it. But, I don't have to see it without replying to it.
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On 9/30/2019 at 9:26 PM, slick jones said:
I obviously had done the same thing. I always appreciate information, from posters that don't spam threads.
Are you intimating that I have spammed threads? If so, you're wrong. I haven't spammed anything anywhere.
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4 hours ago, slick jones said:
One can only imagine how many restraining orders are out there.
No need to wonder; there are none.
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3 hours ago, slick jones said:
Is there a point to creating a thread for this? Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend? Hmm. Well, I thought there was a point. Mebbe not. I could've been wrong.
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25 minutes ago, StepBack said:
Yes, those scenes were great and heartfelt. I know people say that Braeden doesn't try as much, but he always hits scenes like this out of the park.
I had no idea EB had it in him. Good for him!
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24 minutes ago, John said:
Ron cant even write for GLBT characters properly and he is part of that community. So his inability to write for Persons of Color does not surprise one bit
Wait a minute here. Ron's gay? Oy! What in the heck is he doing with his scenes littered with inept young gay ones?!!!
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20 minutes ago, robbwolff said:
CJ = Corinne Jacker
Corinne Jacker was a disaster, wasn't she?
That year, (1981) Ms. Jacker’s career took a different turn when she became head writer for the NBC soap opera “Another World.” But she quit after one season. “I hated it,” she told Mr. Wishna.
On 10/10/2019 at 7:52 PM, Donna B said:And, before anything else happens, JFP fired Barbara Berjer for being too old, aka over 50. (Same for David Hedison.) I don't know how much it meant at GL for Barbara Berjer to be fired but at AW, she was always there to take care of Vicky's two boys!
I hope that both Jensen & Zimmer can both pull themselves up out of the deep holes they're in. It would be too much to imagine that they could work again, although Zimmer has worked some in theatre.
Watching Wednesday's Chicago PD
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13 hours ago, Donna B said:Lucy Johnson, Laurence Caso, Felicia Mini Behr, Kenneth Fitts, Angela Shapiro, etc. were all network execs. There may be more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Daytime
John Rohrbeck Vice President of Daytime Programming 1991–1996 Gave Another World another shot to improve ratings and offered them an extension on their contract and instead first, Generations was canceled in 1991 and then Santa Barbara, 2 years later in 1993.
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Brian FronsVice President of Daytime Programming1983–1991Under his leadership of NBC Daytime, he brought in several new game shows such as Dream House, GO!, Hit Man, Hot Potato, The Match Game – Hollywood Squares Hour, Time Machine, Your Number's Up, and Wordplay – all were canceled due to low ratings and neither lasted more than just one season. The only games that would make it pass season 1 or more were Sale of The Century (1983–1989; revival of the 1969–73 original, which also aired on NBC), Super Password (1984–1989), Classic Concentration (1987–91) and Scrabble (1984–1993). He canceled the long running daytime version of Wheel of Fortune (1975–1989). He also added a new soap opera Santa Barbara (1984–1993). He canceled Search for Tomorrow in December 1986, after it was on NBC for 4 years. Frons previously work for Search For Tomorrow, while working as the head for CBS Daytime. Frons appeared as God on Santa Barbara in a dream sequence involving Mason Capwell (Lane Davies). He helped Santa Barbara garner three daytime emmys for best drama series and brought the short-lived soap Generations (1989–1991).
Brian Frons appeared as god in a dream sequence on SB.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Daytime
Laurence Caso
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Caso
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9 hours ago, Donna B said:
Sheraton Kalouria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheraton_Kalouria
Occupation
1996, SVP Daytime programs, ABC
2000, SVP Daytime Programs, NBCU
2005, President, Broadcasting, MSLO
2010, EVP, CMO at Sony Pictures Television
2016 President, CMO at Sony Pictures TelevisionMr. Sheraton Kalouria is an American television executive based in Los Angeles, California, and the former President and Chief Marketing Officer[2] at Sony Pictures Television.[3][4]
Angelica McDaniel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelica_McDaniel
In 2010 she joined CBS as VP of daytime programming, overseeing the launch of the network's first daytime talk show, The Talk. In February 2012 Angelica was upped to SVP and became network TV's youngest Head of Daytime.
During McDaniel's rookie year as head of daytime, CBS nabbed 51 Daytime Emmy nominations and 21 wins, more than any other network.
In this newly created role, McDaniel continues to oversee CBS Network's top-rated lineup in the day-part (daytime dramas The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, game shows The Price is Right and Let's Make a Deal, and the entertainment talk show The Talk), as well as development for all new first-run programming at CBS Television Distribution (CTD), the industry's leading domestic syndication company. She is also in charge of developing new series across all traditional and new genres of programming for the syndication marketplace.
Angelica McDaniel was fired from CBS on September 5, 2019. So Angelica McDaniel is no longer the Vice-President of Daytime Programming at CBS, CBS got rid of her position altogether, so there won't be a successor for her position.
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16 minutes ago, Khan said:
Although Claire Labine didn't give Mel much to do in the "unearthing Dorian's past" storyline, I felt like she really invested a lot of time and energy into making him and Dorian a viable, romantic, older couple. It's a disgrace how JFP came along and just obliterated it all out of hubris and spit.
Oh, I loved Mel! Good actor!
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On Sept. 22, I said: Unfortunately, not much time passed before Brian Frons canceled SOAPnet, AMC & OLTL.
On Sept. 26, Raven Whitney said: In fact, worst exec in modern times should go to Brian Frons.
Susan Lucci Blasts ABC Daytime Chief Over ‘All My Children’ Cancellation As She Has Yet To Commit To Continue On The Show
By Nellie Andreeva
Nellie AndreevaCo-Editor-in-Chief, TV
@DeadlineNellie
September 3, 2011 11:01amAll My Children star Susan Lucci has some blistering parting words for ABC Daytime president Brian Frons as her soap ends its 41-year run on ABC this month. In a freshly written epilogue to the upcoming paperback edition of her memoir “All My Life” obtained by the New York Post, she blames the show’s cancellation squarely on “some very bad decisions by” Frons. Among them, according to Lucci, the 2008 hiring of Chuck Pratt as head writer, which led to “subpar” writing on the show (he was let go a year later), the 2009 relocation of the show from New York to Los Angeles, and the pushing out of AMC creator Agnes Nixon. “I watched Brian Frons’ decisions destroy the production of our show and the lives of people on both sides of the country,” she wrote, adding that he has “that fatal combination of ignorance and arrogance.” As for the soap’s cancellation to be replaced by a cheaper unscripted show, “an iconic show was losing out to greed,” Lucci wrote. “I cannot fathom any network executive choosing to alienate millions of loyal viewers in these economic times.” Frons recently told Deadline that the protests over the cancellation of All My Children and fellow ABC soap One Life to Live demonstrate that “we actually did a good job for all of these last 40 years. I think we’ve spent 40-plus years trying to keep the soap-opera audience happy. So in an odd way, (the outcry) is actually good. It’s just sad that we don’t have a solution.”
https://serialdrama.typepad.com/serial_drama/2011/12/serial-dramas-best-and-worst-of-2011.html
https://ew.com/article/2011/04/14/abc-brian-frons-all-my-children/
13 hours ago, Donna B said:Lucy Johnson, Laurence Caso, Felicia Mini Behr, Kenneth Fitts, etc. were all network execs. There may be more.soapfan770 Posted September 8
Actually glad to see Angelica McDaniel go the way of her predecessors Barbara Bloom and Lucy Johnson. Even better yet, like Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin(remember the MADD one?) at P&G her position is pretty much eliminated altogether. Micromanaging meddlesome exec's, whether it was Johnson or McDaniel at CBS, MADD with P&G, John Rohrbeck, Susan Lee, and Sheraton Kalouria at NBC, or Angela Shapiro and Brian Frons at ABC are all that helped kill the daytime soaps with their very short-sighted and self-fulfilling agendas.
McDaniel's support has always been suspect; championing the work of MAB, Pratt, and then pushing the Rosales family in to replace the Winters were all horrible. She will not be missed. ABC and NBC haven't had any specific daytime exec for years; the CBS daytime lineup, while ailing, will be fine without one. Sad to say, unless their are extremely drastic changes I just don't see the current CBS Daytime lineup existing in its current form beyond 2021.
Unlike GL which is the only soap I considered that really did die of natural causes as opposed to the typical shocking cancellation, Y&R and B&B still have a lot of life left in them but it would actually take a lot of drastic change, focus, talent, energy and even perhaps a change in format & delivery to save them, something I just don't see happening either unfortunately.soapfan770
Posted September 8Actually glad to see Angelica McDaniel go the way of her predecessors Barbara Bloom and Lucy Johnson. Even better yet, like Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin(remember the MADD one?) at P&G her position is pretty much eliminated altogether. Micromanaging meddlesome exec's, whether it was Johnson or McDaniel at CBS, MADD with P&G, John Rohrbeck, Susan Lee, and Sheraton Kalouria at NBC, or Angela Shapiro and Brian Frons at ABC are all that helped kill the daytime soaps with their very short-sighted and self-fulfilling agendas.
McDaniel's support has always been suspect; championing the work of MAB, Pratt, and then pushing the Rosales family in to replace the Winters were all horrible. She will not be missed. ABC and NBC haven't had any specific daytime exec for years; the CBS daytime lineup, while ailing, will be fine without one. Sad to say, unless their are extremely drastic changes I just don't see the current CBS Daytime lineup existing in its current form beyond 2021.
Unlike GL which is the only soap I considered that really did die of natural causes as opposed to the typical shocking cancellation, Y&R and B&B still have a lot of life left in them but it would actually take a lot of drastic change, focus, talent, energy and even perhaps a change in format & delivery to save them, something I just don't see happening either unfortunately.Micromanaging meddlesome execs were surely some of the worst of the 1990s and 2000s. Personally I don't slap a natural causes death on GL. GL tried too hard to be new & different & to win.
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3 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:
I really wish Lani was as strong and well defined as Gabi. This ''epic rivalry'' feels so one sided. I wonder if Lani will grow as a character during the Time Jump? The rumor is Lani will go bonkers. I miss how well AMC & OLTL handled AA and Hispanic character. ATWT also did a great job with Jessica and Tonio. Lani has never been fleshed out. Pitting Lani & Gabi could've been good with a way better HW. Gabi can easily wipe the floor with someone as meh as Lani.
The thing is this: Lani deserves better! Day in & day out, she just flat out deserves better. The HW should fix that!
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On 9/8/2019 at 1:08 PM, soapfan770 said:
Actually glad to see Angelica McDaniel go the way of her predecessors Barbara Bloom and Lucy Johnson. Even better yet, like Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin(remember the MADD one?) at P&G her position is pretty much eliminated altogether. Micromanaging meddlesome exec's, whether it was Johnson or McDaniel at CBS, MADD with P&G, John Rohrbeck, Susan Lee, and Sheraton Kalouria at NBC, or Angela Shapiro and Brian Frons at ABC are all that helped kill the daytime soaps with their very short-sighted and self-fulfilling agendas.
Look at all these names that go into my Network & Network Execs thread!
On 9/8/2019 at 1:08 PM, soapfan770 said:McDaniel's support has always been suspect; championing the work of MAB, Pratt, and then pushing the Rosales family in to replace the Winters were all horrible. She will not be missed. ABC and NBC haven't had any specific daytime exec for years; the CBS daytime lineup, while ailing, will be fine without one. Sad to say, unless their are extremely drastic changes I just don't see the current CBS Daytime lineup existing in its current form beyond 2021.
Who is MAB?
On 9/8/2019 at 1:08 PM, soapfan770 said:Unlike GL which is the only soap I considered that really did die of natural causes as opposed to the typical shocking cancellation, Y&R and B&B still have a lot of life left in them but it would actually take a lot of drastic change, focus, talent, energy and even perhaps a change in format & delivery to save them, something I just don't see happening either unfortunately.
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Days: October 2019 discussion 🎃
in Discuss The Soaps: Archive (2018 - 2020)
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Aye, that's the rub, right there! I'm into women so I don't even notice if he's got them stripped of their shirts. I'm just expecting them to act and flirt and romance. Oh, boy, am I off track! LOL