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I first saw her as Felicia's grandmother on GH so she'll always be that in my mind. She really elevated what could have just been a thankless role. What a career and legacy.

There have been a lot of really beautiful tributes to Diane Keaton over the past week- the Jane Fonda, Meryl Streep, and Goldie Hawn remembrances were especially poignant- but these two really stood out to me: Her and Pacino clearly had a long complicated past as an on and off couple until sometime in the 90s (a lot of photos/letters/videos from when they were a couple have gone viral this week) but there was obviously still a lot of affection and love there

Samantha Eggar was way, way overqualified for that ludicrous mess on AMC, but she was just wonderful on TNG and in so many films. I'm a big fan of The Collector and The Brood, along with The Seven Per Cent Solution with her, Robert Duvall, Vanessa Redgrave, Alan Arkin, and Laurence Olivier. Very 70s and of the era where they just threw a bunch of stars together but still very enjoyable.

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He was stuck there in limbo without her on and off a lot. The show was just able to cover for that better in the beginning than they were as time went on, and I do imagine that got irritating. I feel like 2006/2007 is just when they both got tired of Luke and Laura and sort of became the end of the road for that. She was just able to cover for it better, obviously mostly because she was off the show. He just decided to lean full into the Tracy romance (which was fine, but I hate that it's now the de facto love story for her) and turned Luke into a drunk sleaze. I do wish the show had had any sort of interest in getting Laura a good solid love interest in the years since then. I don't know that I would have stuck her back with Scott, but they could have done something. Now she's stuck with Kevin and that was a cute stopgap a decade ago but has really run its course at this point. I know they've enjoyed working together but she really deserves better than a c-level relationship with someone the show has little interest in.

Irreplaceable and one of a kind. One of the greatest.

Other than a few Nathan and Maxie fans on twitter, I don't see anyone happy or excited about the Obrecht clan being back and in full force. Nathan nor Britt are worth all this and neither of them can carry a story, much less a front burner one. I do find the show pretty enjoyable these days and feel it's in good shape, but the Obrecht family just is not it. I always enjoyed Sam but in hindsight, cutting her loose was the right move. However it's now been over a year and Dante and Lulu still aren't close to being back together. I dread the thought of them making her keep Nathan afloat until whenever Maxie comes back. I'm not going to go back and quote a bunch of people, but I don't remember Tony having disdain for Luke and Laura until around the mid-2000s when the Skye and Tracy stuff started up. Before that he always seemed okay with it. I know the hookers and affairs had a started a little before that, but it wasn't until around the Laura coma return that Luke basically became Bill. I do that the show has been interested in Lucky and Lulu in the past, even if they're not that interested now.

JMB's Lulu was also able to do romance stories in couples people liked and she had a real connection with Tracy, Luke, and Laura. I also thought she was able to sell being the heavy in stuff like the Georgie and Dillon mess and when she thought she was going crazy. Eden has done basically none of that. Best I can say is that she can be amusing and does work well with Laura Wright.

Totally. Again, letting people like Mac, Ned, Lois, or whoever linger and hang around is one thing. But heaps of these others need to be gone. I still can't believe how long some of these people have been standing around doing nothing. I swear that it felt like back in the day they got the Jenny Eckerts of the world out of there in a few years and they didn't have these flops just hogging up space after almost a decade. It's been over ten years with various versions of Jordan! About Joss, I know they love her over there and probably know she's a lifer. But she's just not a leading character or actress and their insistence on pushing her as one is wrecking their younger scene. I don't know what the answer is since she's not going anywhere, but her as a WSB agent is not it. It's the same problem they ran into with Maxie and ER version of Lulu where they pushed them for years and years despite both of them running their course years ago. But their younger female scene has been in shambles for almost two decades now. Outside of the Trina and Emma situations, they finally got a good Lulu and they don't do anything with her.

This is crazy to me because of all the shows, you could always count on GH to recognise when something was hitting with the audience and then run with it. You can say whatever about how it helped turn GH into the Sonny show, but once they saw they had something with Sonny and Brenda, they had them on constantly. Same with Robin and Stone, or even Georgie and Dillon. About Ava and Nina, I don't mind either of them at this point, but I wouldn't really miss them if they were gone. I do feel like GH also used to be better about cutting the dead weight and not letting people linger around for years doing nothing. Letting people like Mac and Ned hang around is one thing, but most of these people who showed up in the past decade could leave and it have such minimal impact on the show.

GH has been borderline toxic in some ways and cliquey backstage for decades lol. A lot of the people that were divas and in cliques back then are still there! I think most of them have settled down though (Steve included) and are just happy to still be on the show and used, especially after the JFP era. i do think there’s a lot of drama involving a few of the actors no longer there and two sides to these stories.

They definitely realised they went too far and backed off it pretty quickly. But someone really should have been allowed to call her out on that. It's crazy it happened and just nobody said anything and all the vets just treated her like they always did. Yes that's the one. I think Laura was there too! I forgot it ended up there. Since you mentioned Sean before, I think that was the same story where Luke and Holly tracked down his daughter for some reason. Or maybe that was some other nonsense. I just remember them going to find her for some reason that's lost on me now.

Yes! She helped let Tony die and you mean to tell me Bobbie, Felicia, or Lucy never once brought that up to her over the years! Or Anna even! Plus, wasn't she involved with whatever that mess was where Luke had been poisoned by polonium somehow? They had to trek around (with Laura at some point I think) looking for Jerry Jacks and a cure. It's been so absurd for years lol.

I forgot about that. That was around the time GH let Tony Geary add in whatever he wanted so we got tales of Luke with prostitutes and that he'd been running out of Laura and Lucky for years to meet women. Good times. Of course about David Vickers lol. Holly's had some of my favourite ridiculous stories, both onscreen and off, over the years. There was her and her lookalike sister or cousin that was a South American freedom fighter in a fake country. Her years long pregnancies. Her stint as a bioterrorist during the monkey virus (RIP Tony). Then she was somehow involved in one of the latter day Frank Smith plots. Not to mention how many times she's been kidnapped. She's really been through it lol.

The Sasha timeline is so stupid that I just have to laugh. I can ignore it though for the most part because while Sasha isn't anything to get excited over, I feel like that was something they did for ES and TR knowing that was probably their last big story. But honestly, none of Holly's offscreen time has ever made much sense to me. I still don't know when and how Ethan came about and when she met up with Luke! Is Sasha older than him? Was he born during the time they thought she was dead and Luke randomly knew she was alive? It's confounding. The Mac and Dominique secret love child still takes the cake for me of craziest retcon. I actually really like Cody and I don't hate the idea of a Mac child but....we never saw Dominique offscreen from the time they met until she died lol. She moved on from Mac pretty fast as well and spent the last few years running around with Scott, Lucy, and Julia and then up and died. Why they didn't just make him Mac's child with some offscreen woman, I'll never know. It's like they just looked for women Mac was with and picked a name they thought most fans would recognise but not think too much about timeline wise. Plus I'm still confused on why she hid a baby from not only Mac, but also Scott and Lucy.

I'm sure they'll do something for Lesley, probably more in line with what they did for Lee and Gail than the others, but definitely something. Felt like Laura mentioning her the other day was a set up for that in the future. They've gotten to the point- and it's totally welcome- where they address the deaths of anyone who was a fairly big part of the show. Other than Lesley and Robert, there are a few others I'm sure they'd address if/when those happen. I love Skye and think some appearances to show up and snipe at Tracy or to drop off Lila Rae would be fun. She's not a Quartermaine however and it's not like she's some glaring omission during these things. Anyway, I don't really know what the point would be since she belongs to such a different era for the show. There's no Luke, Alan, Monica, Edward, or AJ for her to visit and Jason and Tracy don't give two [!@#$%^&*] about her. I guess she could say hey to Ned? lol.

It's crazy because they act like we see Robin so regularly and like it was some big snub. I can't even remember the last time she appeared- when Epiphany died maybe? We went through all this when Bobbie died too. I'm sure they'll work something out though for when they do a memorial for Tristan.

People do this every memorial. It's exhausting and it's always about people the show can't do anything about. GH can't force Luke, Frisco, Robin, Brenda, Skye, Tony, Scott, or whoever onto the set if they don't want to come. A lot of fans need to accept we're not going to see some of those people again until the show ends (and probably not even then for some of them). I saw people mad about no ghost Emily. That was fine by me because it would have been Natalia Livingston and I'd rather keep the Amber flashbacks we got than have to deal with NL's ghost version. I guess I wish they'd had Mac, Anna, and Lois at there but that's just a small gripe. The flashback choices were wonderful. The Lucy, Laura, and Felicia ones were unexpected and great.

I'd love Lois to be on more as well and to be integrated back into the Quartermaines. I do wish they'd give her something to do personal or career wise. Working at Deception with Lucy and gossiping with Luna Moody is....cute, but frankly a waste of all three of them acting wise. I kind of like the Lucy and Lois work relationship since they were both so close to Brenda. They have a real romance problem with basically the older women, especially Laura. Her and Kevin have been a nice enough couple, but it's also a little beneath her at this point and has kind of run out of runway if he's back to single digit appearances a year. She really needs a new love interest and so do a few of the other women. I hate that the situation in that age range is so dire that Martin is now making the rounds between all the women because I reckon they're going to try and him Tracy! At least Felicia locked down Mac before they got the idea to try him and Alexis again. About the memorial, I thought it was lovely and well done. Pleasantly surprised they shelled out for Alan and Emily flashbacks. That wall is getting so crowded sigh.

I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I want to say thank you to whoever over there had enough self awareness to keep Sonny and Carly far away. That would have been so insulting. I still get war flashbacks of them both being shoved into Alan and Lila's funerals. The Lois scenes yesterday were lovely but I wish they'd gotten both her and Anna over there for the memorial.

About the Tony discussion from a couple of pages back- I've been mad at them killing Tony for almost two decades now, but I'd just leave it alone. One, because I do think he got a great and iconic death in a pretty well regarded story and I'd hate to lose those goodbye scenes between him and Bobbie. Second, with no Bobbie, I think it's not worth it because the show went pretty hard on having people keep mentioning them being reunited so I'd just leave it alone. I wouldn't mind the suggestion of a look a like cousin or other relative lol, especially since it'd bring in some family for Lucas and Felicia and could be a fun romance option for a few people. Also, I do get people being gun shy about the memorials given GH's past history. However, this isn't the era where they ignored Jessie. It's certainly not the JFP era where they either had Sonny and Carly at the centre of every memorial or had to fly in people for five minutes to shore up a group for Lila's funeral. They've been pretty committed to memorialising basically anyone whose died both onscreen and off (other than Alan which was a mess because he'd been dead for so long onscreen) and I've thought all of them were tasteful and well done. They even had Jax remember his mother when that actress died. I know we're only a few days in but I've thought everything from Monica's has been well done so far. Rory Gibson and Alexa Havins, along with the Emma recast, have been a real shot in the arm for those characters and the show. No comment on the Faison family's new introduction. This is all so pointless and I just don't know who this is for.

It's funny you mention them raising her baby because as a kid, I remember thinking that's where it was going. Like another Monica and Jason scenario.

That was such a great Monica and Tracy scene. The Quartermaines were so nasty and basically used for comic relief and Jason worship by the time she got back in 2003 so that was probably one of the last real moments we got between them for decades. I think the next time we got a few good scenes was around the time Tracy was sick and when she left for a bit around 2017. Side note, skimming that episode is reminded me of that Jessica Holmes stuff with Sean and Tiffany. I loved them as a kid (and hate that their health problems kept them from being more involved during the Frank years with the other vets) and I remember enjoying some of that story at the time. Watching it now, I really have no idea what they were going for, especially since they randomly had I think Ryan kill her and then they were back together like a month later. Plus even in that episode, it just made Tiffany seem so pathetic and idk sad and desperate in a way that I don't think worked for that character. Really cute Mac, Felicia, and Maxie scene too.

I know they tended to lean on Felicia, Lucy, Mac, and Kevin for a lot of comedy during that era, but Madame Maia was a real low point. I feel like it went on forever too.

I think he was also responsible for that psychic that Lucy and Felicia got involved with and that they were too dumb to realise was conning them lol.