Everything posted by danfling
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Miss Godlieb was one of the best soap opera producers, in my opinion. I also give credit to the writing of the two headwriters at the time.
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Somerset Discussion Thread
Linda Dano, who later played Gretel on One Life to Live and other roles, was also in The Montefuscos.
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Ellen Holly departed from the show during the early 1980s. Her character had been an actress who later changed careers to a medical secretary ( to good friend Dr. Craig). The character had always been interested in civil rights and events, so the news that she had graduated from law school and become a lawyer was not that much of a suprise to me. Ms. Holly had also been an uncredited writer on the show. When she returned, she had written a storyline which would have included a murder, and her character would have been involved in the story. The show accepted the story proposal. According to Ms. Holly's autobiography, the printed proposal was probably placed in someone's drawer and never really considered. Ms. Holly initially was given a story. Her character had a romance with football player Alec Lownes, played by the late Roger Hill. (The two of them, I understand, also were a couple in real life.) This, and her past marriage to Ed Hall resulted in the show's portrayal of Carla as a woman who was in the middle of a struggle as to which of the two she loved. In addition, the new character of Courtney Wright (Phylicia Ayers Allen) was attacted to Ed (who was also attracted to her. And, Sadie was certainly hoping that Ed and Carla could get back together. Alec was a player for the Llanview Cougers, a professional team owned by Asa Buchanan. (I had assumed that retired professional football player Tom Cudahy, on All My Children, had also played for that team, but I am have learned that this was never said.) Mario van Peebles played Doc Gilmore, a fellow player on Roger's football team. (Mr. van Peebles later appeared on All My Children.) Alec also began a nightclub, a part of the story that I had forgotten about until YouTube refreshed my memory. So, many of the scenes in which Carla appeared were in that nightclub. After the storyline with Alec Lownes ended, the show brought back the son of Carla and Ed, who had become a doctor (Dr. Josh Hall). The character of Courtney was dropped when Ms. Allen was cast in the primetime Cosby show on NBC. The conclusion of her storyline (what little there was) seemed very rushed and was shown only days before the premiere of the Cosby program. So, with Alec and Courtney gone, most of Carla's scenes were with Al Freeman, Jr. (Ed) except, of course, when she was shown practicing law. She was the attorney in the murder case you mentioned. I think that it was when Clint was accused of killing Dr. Marcus Polk, but I get some of the murders confused. Ms. Holly learned from Paul Rauch that her contract was not going to be renewed, and she wrote in her autobiograpy that she then experienced a not-typical-for-her drinking benge. She missed a taping of an episode of the show due to this, and her lines were given to Louise Sorrell, who also played an attorney on the show (Judith Sanders). Ms. Holly did return to the courtroom trial. She called Victoria "Victoria Riley" rather than "Victoria Buchanan." Although this could have been due to a bad memory, I tended to think that this was an intentional way to remind viewers and the show' producer that Carla had a long relationship with Victoria and the other characters. Before the murder storyline and the news of her dismissal, Paul Rauch had ordered Ms. Holly to do two things: to take voice lessons and to shorten her hair. Ms. Holly wrote that she had always in her career been complimented on her speaking voice, so it was insulting that Mr. Rauch would suggest that she needed outside help with this. I will say, though, that her shorter hair was very becoming and made Carla look more like a typical lawyer that she had previously. This is my own opinion, and it is speculative. Don't consider it as known fact: I think that the show's writing staff had originally intended much of the Sanders family's storyline to be given to Carla and Ed. That was before her dismissal from Paul Raunch. Carla was given a send-off, but I am not sure if the chronology that Ms. Holly wrote about in her autobiography was correct. What I remember is that Carla and Sadie were sitting in a restaurant. Carla announced to Sadie that she had been offered a judgeship in (I think) Arizona and that she was accepting this offer. She asked Sadie to travel west with her. I cannot remember if Sadie initially agreed to leave Llanview or not, but they rose from the table and were walking out of the restaurant. She passed by a table where Dr. Dorian Lord Callison was sitting. (Actress Robin Strasser, incidentally, had African-American relatives and may have been one of the friendliest members of the show's cast to the minority performers) spoke to Carla. Ms. Holly said "Goodbye, Dorian." (another reminder that Carla's history with the show was so lengthy and important). However, I have seen the scene that is on YouTube. I missed that scene back in the 1980s. I think that the writers had been leading up to that Dr. Josh Hall would be the person behind the dope ring that was using the women prisoners at Statesville Prison. He would have had the association with Warden Perkins (father of Allison). This part of the story was eventually given to Jamie Sanders, who was a medical student. As I recall, eventually Jamie took his mother as a hostage or a captive. I think that Josh would have taken Carla in the same way. The grandmother, Sadie, would have played a role in this story. Instead, Elizabeth Sanders was introduced. She was sympathetic to Jamie and shown to be evil. Sadie would not have been portrayed as a criminal or as siding with her grandson. With Lois Kibbe on the show playing Elizabeth, comedic scenes were more natural. I especially remember the scenes with Elizabeth and Tina. Both Josh Hall and Jamie Sanders had fathers with some influence (Ed, in addition to being in the police department, was also a former candidate for Lt. Govenor - as Herb Callison's running mate). Both Josh and Jamie had attorneys as mothers.
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Love Is a Many Splendored Thing
I had only thought that Love Is a Many Splendored Thing was the third daytime drama for Ms. Beesch. (The Secret Storm, The Edge of Night, Love Is a Many Splendored Thing - She appeared on Somerset later.) What were the other two shows on which she appeared?
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
I have been sent a message that Ellen Holly, an actress who appeared on One Life to Live for seventeen years, has passed away.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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This perfomer would have been good in that role
In my opinion, Leigh Lassen would have been good as Alice on Another World. However, I am glad to read your opinion about this recast. (I do think that Susan Harney was great in the role and am sorry that she did not remain on the show.)
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NBC Daytime
The show and network were trying to "attract a Black audience" or a general audience with all races of viewers?
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This perfomer would have been good in that role
I may be repeating an earlier post, but I think that Frances Sternhagen (who has recently passed away) would have been wonderful as Dr. Julia Hoffman (as well as the other roles that were played by Grayson Hall) on Dark Shadows. I think that I saw her once in a film playing a psychiatrist.
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"Secret Storm" memories.
The noted actress Frances Sternhagen has died. She played Jesse, the mother of Mark and Stace Reddin on The Secret Storm. Here is the obituary from The Secret Storm: Frances Sternhagen, Tony Award-winning actor who was familiar maternal face on TV, dies at 93 1 of 3 | FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen holds her award for best featured actress in a play for her performance in “The Heiress” during the Tony Awards in New York on June 4, 1995. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Richard Drew, File) Read More 2 of 3 | FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen attends the premiere of “Julie & Julia” in New York, on July 30, 2009. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Peter Kramer, File) 3 of 3 | FILE - Actors Tom Aldredge, left, and Frances Sternhagen celebrate the opening of their play “On Golden Pond” in New York on Feb. 28, 1979. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/G. Paul Burnett, File) Read More BY MARK KENNEDY Updated 4:29 PM CST, November 29, 2023 Share NEW YORK (AP) — Frances Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. Sternhagen died peacefully of natural causes Monday her son, John Carlin, said in a statement posted to Instagram on Wednesday. “Fly on, Frannie,” he wrote. “The curtain goes down on a life so richly, passionately, humbly and generously lived.” Sternhagen’s publicist confirmed the death and said it occurred in New Rochelle, New York. Sternhagen won a Tony for best featured actress in a play in 1974 for her role in Neil Simon’s “The Good Doctor” and a second one in 1995 for a revival of “The Heiress.” Her last turn on Broadway was in “Seascape” in 2005. FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen attends the premiere of “Julie & Julia” in New York, on July 30, 2009. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Peter Kramer, File) She was nominated for Tonys four other times, for starring or featured roles in “The Sign in Sidney Brustein’s Window,” “Equus,” “Angel” and “Morning’s at Seven.” In 2013, she played Edie Falco’s mother in the off-Broadway play “The Madrid.” “I have been very fortunate,” Sternhagen told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, California, in 2002. “And I think a lot of that is because I’m considered a character actor — which really means you can do a variety of things. It doesn’t mean that you can’t do leading parts, because I have. But you’re not limited to playing yourself.” In a 2005 review of “Steel Magnolias,” then-Associated Press drama critic Michael Kuchwara called Sternhagen “one of the treasures of New York theater, able to invest any role she plays with considerable sympathy. Here, she turns what could be a throwaway part into one that provides much laughter — and applause.” FILE - Actors Tom Aldredge, left, and Frances Sternhagen celebrate the opening of their play “On Golden Pond” in New York on Feb. 28, 1979. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/G. Paul Burnett, File) She kept up a flourishing career while at the same time raising six children. She always said her family came first — commuting from her suburban home in New Rochelle while acting on Broadway — but admitted that touring and movie and TV work sometimes took her away from home. “I remember telling my older daughter when she was about 13 that sometimes I felt terribly guilty that I wasn’t home all the time,” she told a Gale Group reporter. “And my daughter said, `Oh, Mom, you would have been impossible if you were home all the time.′ I’m sure she was right.” TV viewers knew her as played the rich grandmother of Dr. John Carter (Noah Wyle) in the long-running “ER.” On “Cheers” she was the know-it-all mother of postman Cliff Clavin (John Ratzenberger). “She was just impossible and great fun to play,” she told The New York Times. The role brought her two Emmy nominations. More recently, she had a recurring role in “Sex and the City” as Bunny MacDougal, the strong-minded mother-in-law of Charlotte (Kristin Davis), which brought her her third Emmy nomination, and played Kyra Sedgwick’s mother in “The Closer.” Soap opera fans in the 1960s knew her in “Love of Life” as Toni Prentiss Davis, who carried a gun and went mad. “I must say it’s fun to play these snobby older ladies. It’s always more fun to be obnoxious. I have known women like that, and I can imitate them, I guess,” she told the Los Angeles Times in 2002. Playwright Paul Rudnick on Wednesday called her “a wonderful actress, capable of the highest comedy and deeply moving drama.” She was, he wrote on X, formerly Twitter, “an indelible presence.” In “Equus,” opposite Anthony Hopkins and Peter Firth on Broadway in 1974, she originated the role of the mother of the troubled youth whose shocking act of violence against horses sets the drama in motion, earning her a Tony nod. In 1979, she appeared in the original Broadway production of “On Golden Pond” in the role of Ethel Thayer that Katharine Hepburn won an Oscar for in the film version. “I feel very close to Ethel,” Sternhagen told the Times. “She reminds me of my mother and I took to her immediately.” Sternhagen was one of three actors to handle the title role over the long off-Broadway run of “Driving Miss Daisy,” another stage role that became an Oscar-winner on screen, this time for Jessica Tandy. She made her film debut in “Up the Down Staircase” in 1967. Among her other movies: “Hospital,” “Two People,” “Fedora,” “Bright Lights Big City,” “Misery,” “Doc Hollywood,” “Raising Cain” and “Curtain Call.” Sternhagen was born in 1930, in Washington, D.C., where her father was a tax court judge. As a child she loved to perform — she recalled herself as “a shameful show-off” — but she never considered an acting career. She entered Vassar as a history major, but a friendly teacher suggested another direction: acting. “Even though I was acting in college,” she told the New York Daily News, “it hadn’t occurred to me to major in drama.” But when it was noted that she was doing “C” work in history, Sternhagen switched to drama. After graduation she taught drama, modern dance and singing outside Boston, earning $2,000 for the year before deciding to pursue work in the theater. “I thought I would try it, see if I liked it, and then get out,” she told the Times in 1981. “But you never get out. It’s an addiction, because it touches your emotions, because it’s where you want to live. ... I think those of us who can stay in it are just plain lucky.” She met her husband, actor Thomas A. Carlin, while appearing in a production in Maryland. He died of heart failure in 1991. She didn’t let her pregnancies interfere much with her work schedule, explaining that as an only child, “I always longed for a big family.’ “I was lucky,” she told the Times. “I usually didn’t show a pregnancy until the sixth or seventh month. I was afraid to stop acting, because if I stopped I would never start again.” “I can’t say it’s been easy. There have been quite a number of things I haven’t done. You make choices and have to stick with them.” She and Carlin had four sons, Paul, Tony, Peter and John, and two daughters, Amanda and Sarah. She also is survived by nine grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. “A celebration of her remarkable career and life is planned for mid January, near her 94th birthday,” said a statement from her family. “We continue to be inspired by her love and life.”
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Tony-award nominee Frances Sternhagen, who played two roles on One Life to Live has died. She played Eileen Siegel #2 (in between Patricia Roe and Alice Hirson), Judge Brismaid in 1984 and 1985 and Custody Judge Granger in 2006. She also appeared as Jesse Redin on The Secret Storm and roles on The Doctors and Love of Life, and her son appeared on Ryan's Hope. Here is an obituary from the Associated Press: Frances Sternhagen, Tony Award-winning actor who was familiar maternal face on TV, dies at 93 1 of 3 | FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen holds her award for best featured actress in a play for her performance in “The Heiress” during the Tony Awards in New York on June 4, 1995. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Richard Drew, File) Read More 2 of 3 | FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen attends the premiere of “Julie & Julia” in New York, on July 30, 2009. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Peter Kramer, File) 3 of 3 | FILE - Actors Tom Aldredge, left, and Frances Sternhagen celebrate the opening of their play “On Golden Pond” in New York on Feb. 28, 1979. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/G. Paul Burnett, File) Read More BY MARK KENNEDY Updated 4:29 PM CST, November 29, 2023 Share NEW YORK (AP) — Frances Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. Sternhagen died peacefully of natural causes Monday her son, John Carlin, said in a statement posted to Instagram on Wednesday. “Fly on, Frannie,” he wrote. “The curtain goes down on a life so richly, passionately, humbly and generously lived.” Sternhagen’s publicist confirmed the death and said it occurred in New Rochelle, New York. Sternhagen won a Tony for best featured actress in a play in 1974 for her role in Neil Simon’s “The Good Doctor” and a second one in 1995 for a revival of “The Heiress.” Her last turn on Broadway was in “Seascape” in 2005. ADVERTISEMENT FILE - Actress Frances Sternhagen attends the premiere of “Julie & Julia” in New York, on July 30, 2009. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/Peter Kramer, File) She was nominated for Tonys four other times, for starring or featured roles in “The Sign in Sidney Brustein’s Window,” “Equus,” “Angel” and “Morning’s at Seven.” In 2013, she played Edie Falco’s mother in the off-Broadway play “The Madrid.” “I have been very fortunate,” Sternhagen told the Daily Breeze of Torrance, California, in 2002. “And I think a lot of that is because I’m considered a character actor — which really means you can do a variety of things. It doesn’t mean that you can’t do leading parts, because I have. But you’re not limited to playing yourself.” In a 2005 review of “Steel Magnolias,” then-Associated Press drama critic Michael Kuchwara called Sternhagen “one of the treasures of New York theater, able to invest any role she plays with considerable sympathy. Here, she turns what could be a throwaway part into one that provides much laughter — and applause.” FILE - Actors Tom Aldredge, left, and Frances Sternhagen celebrate the opening of their play “On Golden Pond” in New York on Feb. 28, 1979. Sternhagen, the veteran character actor who won two Tony Awards and became a familiar maternal face to TV viewers later in life in such shows as “Cheers,” “ER,” “Sex and the City” and “The Closer,” has died. She was 93. (AP Photo/G. Paul Burnett, File) ADVERTISEMENT She kept up a flourishing career while at the same time raising six children. She always said her family came first — commuting from her suburban home in New Rochelle while acting on Broadway — but admitted that touring and movie and TV work sometimes took her away from home. “I remember telling my older daughter when she was about 13 that sometimes I felt terribly guilty that I wasn’t home all the time,” she told a Gale Group reporter. “And my daughter said, `Oh, Mom, you would have been impossible if you were home all the time.′ I’m sure she was right.” TV viewers knew her as played the rich grandmother of Dr. John Carter (Noah Wyle) in the long-running “ER.” On “Cheers” she was the know-it-all mother of postman Cliff Clavin (John Ratzenberger). “She was just impossible and great fun to play,” she told The New York Times. The role brought her two Emmy nominations. More recently, she had a recurring role in “Sex and the City” as Bunny MacDougal, the strong-minded mother-in-law of Charlotte (Kristin Davis), which brought her her third Emmy nomination, and played Kyra Sedgwick’s mother in “The Closer.” Soap opera fans in the 1960s knew her in “Love of Life” as Toni Prentiss Davis, who carried a gun and went mad. “I must say it’s fun to play these snobby older ladies. It’s always more fun to be obnoxious. I have known women like that, and I can imitate them, I guess,” she told the Los Angeles Times in 2002. ADVERTISEMENT Playwright Paul Rudnick on Wednesday called her “a wonderful actress, capable of the highest comedy and deeply moving drama.” She was, he wrote on X, formerly Twitter, “an indelible presence.” In “Equus,” opposite Anthony Hopkins and Peter Firth on Broadway in 1974, she originated the role of the mother of the troubled youth whose shocking act of violence against horses sets the drama in motion, earning her a Tony nod. In 1979, she appeared in the original Broadway production of “On Golden Pond” in the role of Ethel Thayer that Katharine Hepburn won an Oscar for in the film version. “I feel very close to Ethel,” Sternhagen told the Times. “She reminds me of my mother and I took to her immediately.” Sternhagen was one of three actors to handle the title role over the long off-Broadway run of “Driving Miss Daisy,” another stage role that became an Oscar-winner on screen, this time for Jessica Tandy. She made her film debut in “Up the Down Staircase” in 1967. Among her other movies: “Hospital,” “Two People,” “Fedora,” “Bright Lights Big City,” “Misery,” “Doc Hollywood,” “Raising Cain” and “Curtain Call.” ADVERTISEMENT Sternhagen was born in 1930, in Washington, D.C., where her father was a tax court judge. As a child she loved to perform — she recalled herself as “a shameful show-off” — but she never considered an acting career. She entered Vassar as a history major, but a friendly teacher suggested another direction: acting. “Even though I was acting in college,” she told the New York Daily News, “it hadn’t occurred to me to major in drama.” But when it was noted that she was doing “C” work in history, Sternhagen switched to drama. After graduation she taught drama, modern dance and singing outside Boston, earning $2,000 for the year before deciding to pursue work in the theater. “I thought I would try it, see if I liked it, and then get out,” she told the Times in 1981. “But you never get out. It’s an addiction, because it touches your emotions, because it’s where you want to live. ... I think those of us who can stay in it are just plain lucky.” She met her husband, actor Thomas A. Carlin, while appearing in a production in Maryland. He died of heart failure in 1991. She didn’t let her pregnancies interfere much with her work schedule, explaining that as an only child, “I always longed for a big family.’ “I was lucky,” she told the Times. “I usually didn’t show a pregnancy until the sixth or seventh month. I was afraid to stop acting, because if I stopped I would never start again.” “I can’t say it’s been easy. There have been quite a number of things I haven’t done. You make choices and have to stick with them.” She and Carlin had four sons, Paul, Tony, Peter and John, and two daughters, Amanda and Sarah. She also is survived by nine grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. “A celebration of her remarkable career and life is planned for mid January, near her 94th birthday,” said a statement from her family. “We continue to be inspired by her love and life.”
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
The second wife of Leslie Barrett, Ruth Livingston, played the role of Harriet McFadden on All My Children. She was also in a television commercial for Publishers Clearing House. Con Roche also auditioned for the role of Dr. Jeff Martin #3. Robert Perault was cast in the role. (This was around 1975,)
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All My Children Tribute Thread
Although Rene Jarrett may have been in demand following the cancellation of Nancy, she did return to New York. I know that she is in a mouthwash commercial with Diana Douglas (Love Is a Many Splendored Thing), and she played Ginger Kurtz #2 on Somerset. I understand that All My Children offered her a role, but she did not want to take it. She and her husband together were said to have been the highest paid, at the time, in daytime television had she accepted the offer.
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Love Is a Many Splendored Thing
How I wish that these early episodes had been preserved! I had never known that Phil and Helen had lost a child. I notice that Tom is called a "widower." Was he hiding the truth about Martha, or did the show change the storyline later?
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ABC Daytime
That was my original point - that she failed to mention the show at all.
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
Mr. Marland wrote for two thirty-minute daytime dramas, The Doctors and Loving. I think that he would have been a poor choice as a writer for Ryan's Hope or for any other show, for that matter.
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ABC Daytime
I was thinking that the show aired on that network. I guess that I should have considered that she was talking about the shows that the network owned.
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ABC Daytime
The article failed to mention my favorite ABC program, The Edge of Night.
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Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread
That reminds me of when Donald Briscoe was playing Chris Collins on Dark Shadows. He left the show aburptly (personal and medical reasons), and his scenes with Lara Parker (Angelique) were played by the show's assistant director (or producer), Ken McEwen. I think that Mr. Ewen was also sometimes credited as Sean Du Sullivan. The name of the character was Larry Chase, and he did appear on more than one episode. He also shared scenes with Lisa Richards as Sabrina.
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Whatever has happened to this soap opera performer?
I want to inquire about an actor who appeared on two soap operas: Paul Carpinelli. Mr. Carpinelli appeared as Lenny on The Edge of Night in the late 1960s and as Flip Malone on The Guiding Light from 1968 to 1969. I do know that he acted in two short films in 2014 and 2019.
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Somerset Discussion Thread
I had realized until I read the post above that NBC had two different character with the same name but different genders: Chris Kirby on How to Survive a Marriage (female) and Chris Kirby on Somerset (male).
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Somerset Discussion Thread
I had never heard of this film: Another Nice Mess You've Gotten Me Into. One of the featured performers on the movie poster was Dihan Williams (Crystal Ames of Somerset). Here is a review of the film: If online remarks about this obscure comedy are any indication, people were so eager to laugh at Richard Nixon’s expense during his campaign for a second term as U.S. president that the few cinemagoers who caught Another Fine Mess in theaters recall it fondly. Alas, time has damaged this film more than Nixon’s infamous CREEP (Committee to Re-Elect the President) ever did, if one believes allegations that CREEP helped prevent Another Fine Mess from being widely exhibited. Written and directed by Bob Einstein, who cut his teeth writing for The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour (Tom Smothers produced this movie), Another Fine Mess portrays Nixon and his vice president, Spiro Agnew, as old-time comedy duo Laurel and Hardy. Literally. The actors portraying Nixon and Agnew mimic the comedy duo’s slapstick antics, with Nixon incarnating the grumpy Oliver Hardy while Agnew represents the idiotic Stan Laurel. To hammer the analogy, Einstein periodically cuts to film clips of the real Laurel and Hardy. Stupidity reigns in Another Nice Mess. A running gag involves Secret Service agents disguised as ferns, and one bit features agents reacting to out-of-control flatulence. In the most elaborate scene, Agnew delivers so many offensive malapropisms during a state dinner that he causes a visiting dignitary to declare war. And in the “highlight” of the movie, Nixon and Agnew get wasted on pot-laced cookies. Throughout Another Fine Mess, the jokes are obvious, the performances are weak, and the production values are pathetic. It’s also confusing that masterful mimic Rich Little has top billing, since it’s not clear whether Little portrays Nixon throughout the film; the actor with the most screen time does a weak approximation of Nixon’s voice, whereas another actor appears as Nixon in brief interstitial bits, commenting on the movie as it unspools, and that performer gets Nixon’s voice right. Anyway, sorting out who did what isn’t worth the trouble, because this dated flick is a comedy footnote at best. Einstein later portrayed daredevil character Super Dave Osborn, and fellow Smothers Brothers writer Steve Martin plays a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it supporting role.
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Michael Ingram (Lt. Vinnie Woleck #3 on One Life to Live) passed away on September 20 of this year. Here is an article that about him that was published in 1979 by the New York Times: A Music Teacher Takes to the Stage By Lawrence Van Gelder April 15, 1979 “IGUESS I'm the latest of the bloomers,” said Michael Ingram. You see, back in the days when Michael Harvey Ingram was an undergraduate at Hofstra, people like Francis Ford Coppola, Lainie Kazan and Madeline Kahn were on the campus. And while they were making names for themselves in places like Hollywood or on Broadway, Mr. Ingram was mainly spending his time as a teacher of choral music in the Sachem School District in Lake Ronkonkoma. But lately, the 40‐year‐old Mr. Ingram has been making up for lost time, appearing on daytime television as Detective Vince Wolek in “One Life to Live” and singing and dancing at the Broadway Theater as Teo, the gentle pharmacist, in the musical “Sarava.” Performing has nearly always been a part of Mr. Ingram's life. “I always had a flair for getting up in front of people and being quick with words and jokes,” he said. The Brooklyn‐born actor remembers appearing in choral and drama groups at the high schools in Jamaica and Smithtown, where his family moved in 1955. When his father, a pharmacist, invested in a summer theater in Smithtown, Michael got a chance to work in professional productions. Still, he went off to Fredonia, a state teachers’ college, intending to become a music teacher. And his ambition remained unchanged when he transferred to Hofstra, which awarded him a Bachelor of Science and Music Education degree in 1961. That September found him teaching music in the Babylon school system, but after about two years, he went off to do summer stock, followed by a tour with the Robert Shaw Chorale. In 1964, he returned to teaching, spending the next “12 or 13” years in the Ronkonkoma schools — years during which he continued his studies in music and dance, did some summer performing, was married, became a father and was divorced. In March 1976, Mr. Ingram, who decribes his voice as a lyric baritone, received a contract to perform with the Detroit Symphony. “I went out there,” he said, “and realized: Hey, this is what I want to do again.” So in the summer of 1977 ne began making the rounds of agents for the first time in his life. “Within’ five weeks of being sent out by different agents, I got my first commercial — it was a beer commercial. And I came back to teaching in September of 1977 and lasted 10 days. I had so many calls for commercial auditions I just told the school district that I couldn't continue anymore. I wanted a leave of absence. I realized I had outgrown public school education. I was just too prepared to do too many other things.” He felt no hesitancy about what he was about to do. “Security is only within your mind,” he said. “It has nothing to do with a steady paycheck. I found myself entering into something that I might never work at but I felt wonderfully secure in attempting to work at.” Editors’ Picks When he looked at performers on television, he felt confident of his performing abilities. “It was not out of conceit,” he said. “It was out of self‐assurance.” His self‐assurance was not misleading. By November 1977, he was under contract for three years to “One Life to Live.” And in the spring of 1978, he auditioned for a workshop production of “Sarava.” “I didn't even know I was auditioning for Mitch Leigh, the composer. I was just myself.” He got the part. What's ahead? “People have talked to me and said I will probably be doing situation comedies or movies. I say: If that's the case, fine. I really just want to continue. I want to do good work in good vehicles and the medium is really unimportant,”
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All My Children Tribute Thread
I can imagine that the obituary information was submitted by a publicist or by his family. I cannot imagine why mention of his soap opera work (Love of Life, Dark Shadows, All My Children) was omitted. Or, perhaps his theatre work was list and was so lengthy that the television information that followed was dropped by the editors of the publication. Looking at his obituary, I am just realizing after all of these years that both he and the actress who played his second wife on All My Children were both born in Oklahoma.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Actress Dorothy Stinette, one of the actresses who played Rose, passed away on October 23. Here is an obituary from the Wichata Eagle: Dorothy Stinnette Obituary Dorothy Stinnette May 22, 1928 - October 23, 2023 New York City, New York - Dorothy C. Stinnette, born in Wichita, KS, May 22, 1928, passed away in her Manhattan apartment October 23, 2023. A private graveside prayer at White Chapel Memorial Gardens in Wichita was her final request. Raised in Kansas on a street called Broadway and with the name Dorothy, it seems early in life her destiny would be 'the yellow brick road'. Indeed, she excelled in theatrics at Wichita East High, pursued her bachelor's degree at Northwestern University, and began her acting career with a move to NYC in the early 1950's. Always proud of being a 'working actress', she loved the stage and the many roles she played across the country. Early in her career she had a part in Murder, Inc., served as a back up to Ginger Rogers in Hello Dolly, and was a permanent cast member in such television programs as The Edge of Night, Loving, and Somerset. She was hardnosed Mrs. Hatcher in the nostalgic McDonald's commercial of the late 1980's. Dorothy always gave generously of herself to her career and to her friends and family. Preceded in death by parents Owen and Stella (Smith) Stinnett; siblings Grace (Atherton), Owen Jr., Helen (Watson), and Paul; and beloved nephew Larry Watson and a niece Cherie Branson. She is survived by nephews Mike Stinnett and Danny Stinnett and his wife Cheri; Great nieces Deidra Branson and Emily Stinnett (Cruz) and Great nephew Graham Stinnett (Melica); and Great-Great niece and nephew Ruthie and Lionel Stinnett. Our thanks to the medical staff at Bellevue and NYU Langone Hospitals and Riverside Premier Rehab Center for the months of care needed so that she could return to her apartment. Caregivers from Home Instead watched over her 24/7 during her final month and Calvary Home Hospice provided additional support the final week of her life. We thank them for the compassionate care that fulfilled her wish to reach the end of that yellow brick road while in her apartment. Dorothy was well known for her love of animals. The ashes of her last two dogs will be placed in her casket before burial. Donations in her name would be welcomed at North Shore Animal League America, Port Washington, NY, a no kill shelter that she supported. Published by Wichita Eagle on Oct. 29, 2023.