NothinButAttitude

Why do you want Home Farm gone?

With the Whites leaving, can we please get a family at Home Farm that this as wealthy, fabulous, & scandalous as the Wyldes, Kings, or Tates?

NY: Bethenny is draining. I've grown tired of her even when I feel I should empathize with her. She needs to keep a therapist on speed dial. I get she had a hard life and marriage, but she has to stop playing the victim. The second that she grabs hold her power and wield it accordingly, the second she gain control in her life. It was so obvious that Lu, Sonja, and Ramona voted Trump. None of them would own it and they seemed ashamed by not telling the truth. In the words of Rinna, "Just freaking own it!" You voted for him. So what. Your silence spoke volumes. Fans are gonna express their distaste regardless. I was surprised that Bethenny voted for HRC as she gave me vibes that even she would vote Trump. While I like Tinsley, I have no respect for someone that sat out during the election. She had no excuses. I am glad that Dorinda and Carole dug into her a**. Tinsley needs to grow up; she's too childish. Also, I believe she would've voted Trump too as she got so defensive.

Yep. She cozy up to Vicki onscreen, but would get someone (like Meghan) to secretly come for Vicki at all times. She'll constantly plot Vicki's demise b/c she wants the position Vicki is in. And this is what makes Shannon stupid. She's allowed Tamra to put her in a corner when it comes to Vicki that she won't be able to get herself out of it unless she learns to let go and come clean about David, which she won't. Shannon is all about appearances and she's allowed Tamra to instill so much hatred towards Vicki (in the process) that she won't be able to reveal that Vicki was telling the truth all along. Her hatred toward Vicki won't allow it. Whether she knows it or not, Tamra is gonna be the cause of her downfall, not Vicki. Speak of the OC, Meghan feels that this season is "too boring." Funny coming from her when Meghan is one of the boring cast members this season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shannon fell on the sword this year. If TamRat gets wind that it is either her or Vicki, she'll make amends with Vicki real quick. Watch. She knows that Vicki will be there till she chooses to leave as aforementioned.

I don't think they even care to even develop anything consisting of Leyla as of late. She seems to get the scraps of everything. Priya too. Sad because I find those 2 to be the most endearing women on the canvas beside Laurel and Bernice, who barely gets anything too. I'm a Cain/Moira fan, but I was all for Pete/Moira for the time being. Especially, if it was tied to Emma unraveling and it revealing her secret. Emma going into a tizzy over Moira taking another man in her life (this time her son) would've been epic. I think the climax would've been good too.

True but I don't pity TamRat at all b/c she's done the same to Gretchen and Alexis and their men, and she expected them to forgive him at the drop of dime. It's pure karma. She's dished it out. Now she has to take it.

Vicki didn't start the "Eddie is gay rumors" though. Fans on Twitter have been saying that since he popped up back in s7. A story about him being adopted as a grown by some old grown man and taking his last name (if I am right) is the reason why people drew conclusions that Eddie could be gay. I do think that Eddie prefers the company of men (i.e. David for one) over Tamra. I do believe that he and TamRat are a marriage of convenience--just a business deal. Every scene of Eddie/TamRat consists of him being passive-aggressive towards him and slyly insulting her. When he tries to be loving, it is forced. I feel like the only time we see David be his true self and light up is when he is with David. Eddie is just like Brooks--a con man and a user. He's just slicker than Brooks was. I don't see Andy ever firing Vicki. If she goes, it'll be on her own terms. I think that Bravo needs to get over their worries about getting rid of TamRat and Vicki. What happened to NYC was one instance, and looking back at it, it was the right choice. Had the show kept the cast from s4, it would've been a toxic mess like NJ is now. Now NYC is creme de la creme of the housewives. We lost NeNe as the anchor on RHOA for 2 seasons, and the show did fine. The only reason those seasons fell flat was b/c of casting choices and the need of new blood. If the OC alleviates us of Tamra and Vicki, and finds a plethora of new housewives with chaotic lives, the show will be fine. I feel the same about BH now too. If this season doesn't blow me away, then I feel that LVP and Kyle need to go too. I've been saying that LVP needs to stick to Vanderpump Rules and doing other cute spinoffs with her businesses; she doesn't need Beverly Hills housewives anymore. I think most fans would be content with dropping both Vicki and Tamra as people are tired of the toxic relationship between them. Tamra bring nothing to the show, but stirs drama. Vicki is too much of a mess now that it is unbearable to watch. Both of them need to go.

Finally sat down and watched the jewels that @DRW50 posted. Again, thanks for them. These episodes basically highlighted all that is wrong and missing on B&B as of late. Kristen, Thorne, and Felicia are so missed and necessary on this show. There is the absence of family relations missing on B&B. While there was a bit of awkward tension between the Forresters during the episodes, you could still sense some warmth; you could still see they care for each other in a sense. Now they are all so isolated that it is sad. Seeing episodes of Teri Ann Linn's Kristen again was good. I loved her Kristen, and I do agree that she was very similar to Brenda Epperson's Ashley. She also reminds me a bit of Kim Simms' Mindy on GL too. There's just this natural sensuality about her and she is gorgeous. I just never cared for Tracy Melchoir's Kristen the same way. Seeing Margo and Clarke with Mark just reminds me of all that is missing on the show. Mark should've been a mainstay on the show, and I miss Clarke's goofy butt too. He would fit in so well at Spectra with the current crew. God I miss B&B when it was well written and had A, B, and C stories all airing at the same time.

Just found this channel, which has tons of videos of GL from the late 90s onwards.

^ This. I've always felt Vicki found out midway, panicked, and had to keep playing along b/c she didn't wanna be made a villain or fool. Instead of coming clean instantly that Brooks made a fool out of her, which would've made her a victim even more, she continued the lie b/c she hates to be alone. Vicki is a co-dependent personality. Her greatest fear is dying alone. Until Vicki conquers that fear, she is gonna continue to be a mess. I don't think that relationship with Steve is gonna be any better either. It's cute right now, but it is gonna spiral into a mess too. I agree too that unless they clean house with this show, we're gonna hear cancer-gate to the very end of time. IMO, I think that removing Vicki AND Tamra will be the solution to the problem. MegaNeck can go too. While Shannon is deeply involved too, we need someone to be the new center of the show and as crazy as it sounds, Shannon might need to be it. Keep Shannon and Kelly and dump the rest. I'd suggest bringing back Jeana too to soften the blow over the loss of Vicki. Make her the new heart of the show. I'd bring back Lizzie for the simple fact that she was the total pack of what this show needed: a cute, classy, bubbly, intelligent woman with a handsome, rich husband and adorable kids. Also, Lizzie was not scared of confrontation. Bravo then needs to seek out 3-4 new women (preferably a group of friends) and blend the 2 together.

I think Pete with Moira is the most dramatic and would've been the best route to continue with as Emma's secret is coming out. I think it would've been genius to have Moira seduce Emma's son, and it drives her even more mad to the point that Moira concluded Emma killed John.

I didn't see anything special about Gordon, but I didn't care about them retconning him into a child molester after all these years. Such an odd story for us to simply feel pity for Aaron & for Danny Miller to get material for the BSAs.

It is becoming a problem that this show (or any show for that matter) uses rape to reunite a coupling. I find it sick in some way. Especially, when the characters don't have long-term affects from it. It seems once they are reunited with their "true love" that all is forgotten about the horrendous assault that occurred to them. With RobRon, I am over Aaron constantly judging Robert. At times, it makes me wish that Kate Oates would've put him with Finn instead. Aaron unnerves me at times. He'll be righteous once second and does heinous, destructive acts himself the next. He's literally the male version of Debbie. He can do bad things and justify his actions for it but will look down on you for doing the same. Back to Pierce, I've always said this show should've made him a lothario that all the women in the village had a "good time" with. Rhona should've used Pierce to get her groove back then once she realized she wanted to get back with Paddy, she should've simply broke up with Pierce. Pierce could've went on to be a perfect love interest for women like Leyla, Bernice, or Chas in the future. Jonathan Wrather was wasted.

^ This. The show lost steam for me once Ashley passed away. I feel like Emmerdale placed the bar so high with the writing and performances of everyone that all that is going down afterwards is dreadful. RobRon at odd for the 1000th time (due to Robert) is boring. Priya boning Pete came out of left field for me. What happened with him going after Moira? That just seemed to drop if you ask me. Emma getting discovered is long past due. I feel like she won't get discovered till Christmas (as usual) and everyone will be over it by then. Rhona's story with Pierce turned me off. I hate how Pierce had to be sacrificed so Rhona & Paddy could consider reconciling. I just need the show to tighten up again like it was last year. Emmerdale was must see then. Now it isn't.

RHONJ trailer:

OC: Tamra just keeps showing how much of a hypocrite and piss poor mother she is. Tamra is hard-headed--just tone deaf. Sidney had told her time and time again not to use her as story and Tamra keeps on doing it. I've said this previous weeks and I am gonna repeat again. Tamra is gonna push Sidney to brink where she spills all of Tamra's dirty laundry to get her off of her. Sidney gave a little sip of tea with that Facebook post a week or 2 ago. She is gonna unleash unholy hell on Tamra the more this season passes with Tamra constantly mentioning her. Tamra needs to leave the damn girl alone! She doesn't want to be mentioned on the show. Respect her wishes! If Tamra is fishing for story then start another business. Use Ryan's weird a** for story. Continue doing what you do now and stir the pot. Moving on, when Trailer Sue said that she can't forgive Vicki for bringing up her family, I laughed hysterically. For one, isn't she a "Christian?" Aren't they supposed to forgive, forget, and move on? Like Peggy pointed out, Tamra dwells on sh-t for too long, and she does it b/c she has nothing to contribute to the show when you think about it. Tamra is too toxic. I also had to laugh b/c once again I had to rethink of all the times Tamra brought up other cast member's personal info like: - Bringing up Slade's child support & his relationship with his son/ex-wife. - Digging into Gretchen's past & trying to coax her ex to come on when she was married to Jeff, who was dying of cancer at the time. - Bringing up Alexis' incident when her child supposedly almost fell in the pool while strapped in a stroller. - Bringing up Lizzie's son punching her in the face. - Along with MegaNeck, digging into Brooks' info. Why must people not talk about her family, but it OK for her to do the same? It was tactless to see her and Shannon talk about Peggy in the last scene too. Shannon goes even lower next week questioning now if Peggy had a cancer gene. Seriously... Shannon needs to focus on her "marriage" with David and do some digging into that. It was obvious tonight that they still have issues in their marriage as David was shading her about wanting to start a restaurant. DALLAS: I find this show to be so lighthearted and a breeze compared to the OC. Stephanie is sneaky. Very sneaky. @Chris B, I do believe that there is more to the story that isn't being shared. If I have to guess, I believe that Stephanie puts on for the cameras and is totally different off camera. I think that annoys Brandi and that's why she wants no parts of Stephanie. We did get a peep of Stephanie's evil side when she got confronted about the text. She was trying to set Leanne up as the villain again and it failed. Stephanie loves to play victim, but everyone is hip to her shenanigans again. Stop doing crap behind the scenes, and grow a backbone. You wanna go toe to toe with Leanne then do it. As my mom always says, stop playing p*ssy b/c you're bound to get f*cked. Kameron's Elle Woods act has gotten old now. Her cute husband seems to be over her too. He obviously wants her to just be a trophy wife and tend to the kids. With all that money he got, I'd just play the position and live comfortably. She's wasting time trying to do a damn dog food line that will go nowhere. Stephanie is another one that needs to just shut up and live comfortably. Travis bought the house. Oh well. Move in and get over it. You don't like the pool in the living room then fill it up, or put a pool cover over it. That's what I'd do. As long as he's continuing to give me the 3 f's (feeding me, financing me, and f'ing me), I'd be content. D'Andra's mom, Dee, is a trip. She better get with the time and utilize social media and technology or their empire is gonna fold real soon. D'Andra made valid points to her mom, who has deaf ears at the moment. Leanne in that damn hot dog costume... I just cannot take her seriously. She is a train wreck in a good way. I didn't care for Cary and Mark's story. It was odd. I thought Mark did plastic surgery. Why is he trying to go into fashion or some mess? Boy, stick to your money maker and leave that other mess alone.

Thank you, @DRW50! I'll watch it as soon as I can!

I don't even think it'll get to that point. While I am not much of a conspiracy theorist, I wouldn't be surprised if something unfortunate happened to Pumpkinhead before it got to that point. This is Washington D.C., and I've always compared them to Slytherin in Harry Potter. Those bitches engage in the "dark arts." I would not be surprised if Kumquat Man was "removed" in some eerie manner.

Oh sh-t. He better chill out before Secret Service turn on his a**.

People are saying that the trailer might be released tomorrow morning. We shall see. I agree that it is f-cked up that Danielle is being given the Sheree treatment when we all know that Danielle is gonna most likely carry the entire season single-handedly. That aside, I cannot take Leanne seriously in this damn wiener costume. That aside, I believe Brandi. Stephanie has always been a sneaky, passive aggressive twat. I really think she is about to be exposed this year. I am glad Leanne called Stephanie out about her not coming to Leanne about their beef. She always goes to Brandi and Cary about it to stir the pot.

RHONJ cast photo: Apparently, Danielle is a friend of the housewives this season. The word is the trailer is supposed to be released some time this week.

He does, doesn't he? I hope they bring back Steph and reunite the 2. Andy and Steph were such a cute, innocent couple that I wanted to have a happy ending. Not uh. Oliver Farnsworth looks a mess with that beard. Ooo and don't put that in the stratosphere. I don't wanna see Michelle v. Carla over Robert. Nothing but a whole bunch of tears and screaming between the 2. Plus, as much as I don't care for Michelle, I did enjoy her friendship with Carla. Can there be one female friendship on soaps where they don't fall apart over penis?