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Ah okay, I understand. Well that would make sense especially for stories which were not popular. Those should have been just finished off screen and new stories should start.

Ah okay! Thanks! Thats what US soaps should have done as well.

Thank you for your insight! I always thought Bauers were there from the start!

Well this is much better than blow-up dolls, right? This looks completely real! Nice job, UK soaps! So EE will acknowledge the corona virus. Good for them. On another note, while I haven't watch EE in AGES, I kind of remember reading somewhere that once EE returns from the covid break, they will have sort of a reset with the stories? Did that happen? How did they do it? They just dropped whatever was happening before covid and just started new stories?

No worries. It was also visible on the Youtube video title that you posted I completely forgot that he was on GL playing Bill until you reminded me with your post That was a fun fact to see see

While I do agree that there are some great creative people here, I would not only blame today's writers for the state of soaps. I think a lot of them don't get to write what they want. Us here writing our own little projects, we don't have budgets or corporation managers to approve our stories. I think it is not that easy to be a soap writer these days. I would actually blame more the network managers for the state of soaps than writers. Although I am sure some of them at least are useless and stuck in the past. Sounds fun the way you did your stories I mean, making up actors and interviews, must have been fun. I never did that part. I just "cast" already known actors in the roles on my show. In the beginning I was casting almost exclusively actors from soaps. But as they got cancelled one by one, I had to extend my casting pool to other tv shows or movies

Hm, that's interesting. I would hate that kind of a move to a new location, to be honest. I know it's not a big deal, but just renaming the town overnight, it would irk me And it is annoying when they do things like that (e.g. Alan buying a house on screen, but later referring to it as that always being the Spaulding home). Don't they have have (or at least back then) people who are there to spot continuity errors? lol Oh do I get this correctly that then Bauers did not appear on the show prior to the move to Selby Flats? I thought they had been one of the Rev Ruthledge church members, just not as prominent characters. I am asking because you mention that the only characters to move to Selby Flats are Claire and her husband. But indeed I agree that this sounds like a much better transition than the one to Springfield. That one is just ..... yikes! Oh wow, Billy Abbott... I never liked him that role. Him or Kelly Kruger as Mac. Neither of them was Billy/Mac to me..

Yes, I think Roger did call her Chrissy. I thought others used that name more when she was a kid and that she became Blake only when she was SORASed. Obviously, this was only my assumption Thanks for the reply. Oh, interesting. Flood is an interesting way to change locations. In regards to Springfield move, I wonder how they explained multiple characters moving to a different city just because Bill changed his job. Or was it just the Bauers that moved and then all the other characters stayed behind while Springfield brought on new characters? Do you happen to know which year this happened? EDIT: I found more info on wikipedia, I don't know how I did not see this before when I was googling this earlier today. haha Thanks anyway

I have another question for the historians I see that GL changed locations from Five Points to Shelby Flats to Springfield. How was this done? Did characters move or did they just mention casually the new name of the town? Does anyone know when the changes happened? Thank you!

I see that in the last year they had a character named Christina on the show. And I know that Blake has not used her "Christina" name for a while, but was there ever discussions back in the day about this when this new Christina appeared? I am just curious, because it struck me as odd when I saw it the other day. And yes, I am aware that more than 1 person can be named Christina, but just usually you don't have people with same name on the show at the same time..

Wow! You guys did a really good job! Really nice!

I still write "Life" as well, but not as much as I would like to. I usually get inspired at bedtime.. story ideas just start coming in and I am so excited that I want to go and write then and there, but alas I cannot because well I have a day job and have to sleep haha Then by morning, I forget half of those wonderful ideas I had the night before. OMG I totally get what you are saying. I never thought I would writing my show for such a long time, so I crammed A BUNCH of stuff in the beginning. There was so many murders, marriages, divorces, babies, miscarriages, just tragedies in general.. Anything that I write now, I try to pretend like those first few years don't exist sometimes, simply because they were ridiculously loaded with too much crappy stuff haha I love your ending! I was considering ending my story (if I ever write the end) with some kind of a disaster, either a natural disaster or a bomb or something big. I don't know why I find this type of ending interesting, as I would hate it if my show I was watching ended like that haha I also was thinking about having some made up war happen which I would include (this was long time ago, I gave up on that idea with time). EDIT: I am currently considering a storyline about a giant fire destroying the town (as it is set in California), just so that I can move the characters to another place which is NOT California, because I want to have options of having winter-y storylines as well haha

This sounds very interesting! It would have been a good read, I'm sure. And I love the title! "The Story of Us" is very simple but very effective title.

Ah okay, thanks! I am not from USA, so I have never heard of it. But sounds like a good name for a soap opera town for sure

Ah yes, I googled it and I saw that it was as city in Mississippi. That's cool! Is that where you set your story? Or it is another Biloxi somewhere else in USA? I set my story in a made up California town

Oh thank you very much! I find it that I can think of a story, but then I am not so good with building it up and hitting the beats, so not sure if you would have enjoyed the daily episodes. Haha But thank you nevertheless. As you said, many good ideas mentioned in this thread. Thank you for starting this! Edit: I see I forgot to quote AbcNbc last post. Now I dont know how to do it lol Well that sounds fun! I want to start writing new things all the time, because new stories always pop in my mind, but I keep going back to "Life" since I invested many many years into it, so I keep pushing for it to continue But how awesome that you actually became a writer! So awesome!!

Omg yes, exacly! I have had the same. Seemed like a lot of the characters were having very extreme reactions like that to some situations which were not that bad haha Ah I never did the shrinking storyline haha althought I did have some outlandish stories.. like parents of a newborn baby with a mysterious illness go search for a cure and end up in Siberia looking for some flower needed for a potion that would be the cure. I have to say, I don't watch DOOL anymore, but I read comments still on the forums and I laugh about people complain about Ben being accepted by many after he was a serial killer. And I agree with this criticism. But I do chuckle because I had a character Matt Bergin show up in 1999, as this con-artist who was soon discovered to be a son of a local detective. And then very quickly he was forggiven and he became a changed person and a good guy. Now, I was 16 when I wrote that and my guy was not a serial killer. What is Ron's excuse? Haha I did even try to modify this by finally bringing him to court in 2001 for some jewel theft he did prior to joining my show. And then also in 2005 he got in a relationship with a girl Serena who was a daughter of one of his fraud targets some years before. He seduced the lady and tricked her to get her cash and then left which ended up with her suicide, so her daughter Serena found him, seduced him and falsy accused him of rape to get back at him. So he went through trial again.. I tried to rectify my blunders hahah

Actually I only write episode summaries as well, but mostly because writing dialogue would take forever, and since I have a full time job and dont have so much free time to write, I found summaries to be a perfect solution as at least with the summaries I move the story forward What does Biloxi mean, if you dont mind me asking? Oh thank you so much! Very kind of you. No, I did not publish it anywhere, as I am not very sure anyone would want to read it haha I use the writing as my therapy to take out my frustrations and also express my bursts of creativity haha I did actually have a friend who helped me in the beginning with it and she eventually started posting it online, but that was like 15 years ago lol So it probably does not exist. I just remembered that I used to write Sunset Beach continuation fan fic (called Sunset Beach Forever) once the real show ended. I was publishing it first via email groups and then at the fan fic website for a few months in the year 2000 and It won me an online voted award for a favorite discontinued show in 2001 (I wrote 100 episodes in 2000., and qualified only for the best discontinued show in 2001) I was very pround of that back then Btw it is fun to see so many people writing here

I have one as well. I start writing it in October 1998 when I was 14-15 years old. And I was writing it until 2012, when I stopped. I only recently picked up where I left of and have now reached May 2013 episodes My story is quite similar to you. The episodes were such crap, my God. I re-read all of it recently from the beginning during covid confinement. It was such trash, a lot of it did not have any sense and people would fall in love without any build up or anything, like one date and then oh they are so in love. haha But I too would like to think it got better as I got older. And like you, I was heavily inspired and influenced by two soaps that I watched at the time, which were Sunset Beach and The City, so all of my characters lived in this apartment building (like on The City). Initially, it had this rich family Paige family which owned the building, as well as the Brewster, Shorse (I guess this last name does not really exist, I have no idea how I got this name back in 1998, but well.. it's there lol) and Anderson families. All of these families exist still on the soap (at least in some way). The only difference between you and me is that I started writing in the notebook and then eventually moved onto the computer and since early 2000s everything is in the computer. Back then I was saving it on floppy drives and I even lost some episodes when some floppy drives got broken. But I have rewrote those missing parts eventually. since I had yearly recaps saved up. My soap is simply called "Life".

Oh I just received in mail my order of "As The World Turns Complete Family Scrapbook - Special 40th Anniversary Edition"! Really excited! And since in my real life no one cares about soaps or even know what ATWT is, I thought to share my excitement here Do you guys know other books like that which are worth buying that you would like to recommend?

I think the reason why I liked Passions in the beginning was simply because I was excited to see a soap opera from its beginning. Yes, I have seen Sunset Beach before that and that was also an excited time in my life (lol), but by the time SuBe premiered in my country and I started watching , it was pretty much known it would get cancelled, so I did not hold out too much hope. With Passions, they were doing well in that demo and I just thought that this would be the soap that I watch from the start and it would last and last forever. Stupid kid I was. lol Despite the witch and the living doll (I did love Timmy), I liked it up until the hell in the closet story. I don't know. That was just the worst thing I have ever seen... anywhere... ever. Was that in 2001? Also, am I wrong in saying that the first year (or at least first couple of months) the pace was better/faster than later? But the dialogue was horrible (and it got worse with time) and the stories just went to hell.. literally. So I could not bare to watch literally same scenes repeat for days. You could miss a week and there would Theresa be, still convincing Whitney that Ethan is her destiny and she will get him from Gwen. They'd be wearing same cloths and they would be at the same spot they were a week ago. No movement whatsoever. Horrible. lol

Ha! Awesome! Thanks for sharing (and saving me the typing :))

Thanks to @kalbir for pointing out this thread to me. I couldn't find it. Thanks to everyone who shared their ratings. As I mentioned in another thread, I have some ratings which I have collected all across the internet over the many years. Unfortunately I do not have nice paper clippings like some of you, because all the ratings I find, I input in an excel file, so I wouldn't be able to tell you for most of them what my sources are, but I hope that's not the problem. So I have some partial ratings from 1992, so I can start from there: Week of August 10 1992 (On AW, Lucas died; Shane starts to walk without the crutches on DAYS and Karen invites Jagger for dinner on GH). Y&R 8,7 AMC 6,6 ATWT 5,8 B&B 5,7 GL 5,3 GH 5,2 OLTL 5,1 DAYS 5,0 AW 3,7 SB 3,1 LOV 2,4 Week of August 17 1992 (Sawyer is arrested for Frank's murder on SB, A.J. and Nikki make love on GH and Clay told a devastated Dinah Lee that he cannot marry her on LOV) Y/R 8,6 AMC 6,8 ATWT 5,8 B&B 5,7 GL 5,3 GH 5,2 DAYS 5,1 OLTL 5,0 AW 3,8 SB 3,3 LOV 2,5 Week of August 24 1992 (Ava accepts Leo's proposal on LOV, Jack and Jenn enjoy time in New York on DAYS and Lionel and Gina make love for the first time on SB). Y&R 8,4 AMC 7,0 ATWT 5,9 B&B 5,7 GL 5,6 GH/OLTL 5,2 DAYS 4,9 AW 3,7 SB 3,1 LOV 2,6 Week of August 31 1992 (Bill and Holly search a burial tomb in an attempt to find a statue on GH, andAlly seems to have been possessed by evils spirits on LOV) Y&R 7,9 AMC 6,4 ATWT 5,4 GL 5,3 B&B 5,2 OLTL 5,0 GH 4,9 DAYS 4,6 AW 3,3 SB 2,6 LOV 2,5 Week of September 21 1992 (Jack and Nikki discuss having a child on Y&R, Kevin tricked LeeAnn to get Duke on OLTL, while on AW Paulina and Jake reconciled) Y&R 8,1 AMC 6,6 ATWT/B&B 5,8 GL 5,4 GH 5,0 OLTL 4,8 DAYS 4,5 AW 3,2 SB 2,6 LOV 2,5 Week of September 28 1992 (Olivia and Nathan are happy with their newborn son on Y&R, while on DAYS, Isabella collapsed after attending Jennifer's baby shower) Y&R 8,3 B&B 6,8 AMC 6,6 ATWT 5,9 GL 5,4 GH 4,9 OLTL 4,8 DAYS 4,5 AW 3,1 LOV/SB 2,5 Week of October 12 1992 (Jill admits having feelings for Victor on Y&R, Stacey turned to Clay for comfort on LOV, while Cheryl died on GH) Y&R 7,8 AMC 6,7 B&B 5,5 ATWT 5,4 GH/OLTL 5,1 GL 5,0 DAYS 4,5 AW 3,1 LOV 2,6 SB 2,4 Week of October 19 1992 (Kevin punched a reporter on AW, while news of Isabella's death spreads on DAYS). Y&R 7,9 AMC 6,7 ATWT 5,8 B&B 5,6 GL 5,2 GH 5,1 OLTL 4,9 DAYS 4,8 AW 3,2 LOV 2,7 SB 2,5 Week of October 26 1992 (Grant proposed to Vicky on AW, while Cooper did the same with Hannah on LOV) Y&R 8,3 AMC 6,6 ATWT/B&B 5,9 GL/GH 5,3 OLTL 4,9 DAYS 4,8 AW 3,3 SB 2,7 LOV 2,6 Week of November 2 1992 (on AMC, Jackson doesn't want Erica to have an affair with Dimitri, while a Halloween party goes on at Chamberlain house on GL) Y&R 8,6 AMC 6,9 ATWT 6,2 B&B 6,0 GH 5,7 GL 5,6 OLTL 5,2 DAYS 4,9 AW 3,4 LOV 2,7 SB 2,6 Week of December 14 1992 (Christie Clark returned as Carrie Brady on DAYS, Sophia ends up in a hospital on SB and Lucas' custody hearing happens on GH). Y&R 7,9 AMC 6,6 ATWT 5,8 B&B 5,6 GH 5,4 GL 5,3 OLTL/DAYS 5,1 AW 3,2 SB 2,5 LOV 2,4 Week of December 28 1992 (On GH, A.J. attempts suicide, Stacey pulls a knife on Clay and Aldens talk about having her committed on LOV and Opal enjoys her newborn baby on AMC) Y&R 9,1 AMC 8,0 B&B 6,5 GH 6,3 OLTL/ATWT 6,1 GL 5,9 DAYS 5,3 AW 3,6 LOV 3,2 SB 2,9

You are correct. I just double checked Don't know why I thought it was the Dobsons.. Thanks for letting me know

Oh yes, indeed! I am looking forward to seeing how to goes further (well, at least what I'll be able to find on Youtube. Oh the Dobsons were writing this? Wow, they wrote Eden's rape on SB, haven't they? That was so brutal and looked real... I guess they how to write a chilling rape scene. I remember Eden's rape vividly. I was a kid back then when I watched. Holly's rape did not show much and was not as brutal, obviously, but it was still chilling. As Faulkner said, some of Roger's lines were really cold and scary and the way he looked at Holly.