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  1. According to the newspaper columnists at the time of Mark Dante's return, Gerald Gordon had been a favorite of Fred Silverman, who left ABC for NBC and took Gordon with him. Silverman supposedly put him on a contract with NBC. Gordon return to "General Hospital" occurred after Silverman left NBC so Gordon may have been in need of work and he may have left Monty on good terms. His pairing seems very C-story at best based on synopses but maybe there was more to it.
  2. The show definitely is ignoring some of the complexities involved in the situation. I am also curious to see how Kate Phillips is presented because I get the sense we are suppose to hate her for being "civic minded" and encouraged a clinic that provided abortion services. I know there is a bigger story coming up about abortion with someone in that circle so I'll be curious to see how it plays out. Slightly off topic, on the British soap "Eldorado" they handled abortion with more engagement in the complexities of the issue while still taking a heavy religious punishment angle; Rosario aborts her mid-life pregnancy only for her only son to die several weeks later. I have to wonder if we will get a speech about how Dave Phillips feels that his son Kevin was taken from him because of his sinful abortionist past. I almost wonder if Vinley wasn't subtly trying to undermine the issue of abortion with the deeper intersection into a character like Blue Noble and his childhood, but I suspect that subversive reading may not be accurate. As I think I may have already suggested, I would have kept Russ in Lori's orbit especially after the mental health crisis. I also would have extended the Russ as Lester Lewis' assistant storyline. I think Lori and Russ finding each other again after Lori's attack in a friendly way that concerned all the supporting parties (Marianne, Ben, Terry, and even Vince) would have centered Russ in a way that would have played into Chris Rolland's strengths. Russ going into the mob was an inevitability from September, 1981. I just don't know if that's where I would have centered him. I do wish we had gotten visits from Louise and Tony Cardello. I think they would have allowed us to explore some interesting dynamics given Louise's ties to the mob and Tony's sexuality. I also would have made Carrie Weaver a more permanent fixture in Kingsley. Preferably as a member of the church board for the house of worship that eventually hired Jeff Cummings.
  3. Episodes 411-413: I very strong set of episodes. The key standout to me was the one-off return of Dennis Fraser, the drunk driver who had caused Nora and Scott's death a year earlier. Dennis arrives on New Year's Eve to update Terry what he has been doing since their last encounter. He and his family have not only embraced God, which Terry had stated to the Davidsons back in the spring, but also that he is working with an organization to prevent drunk driving and has convinced others to see the light. I think its a nice way to revist a story that was so critical to the family history of the Davidson clan as well as a way to resolve some of the issues I had with how Fraser's original story was resolved. The fact that Fraser was taking action steps, and not just preaching, felt like an important story shift. Fraser's return set off some nice ripple effects. Peter takes his old standard highly emotional, suggested of low level violence approach, which emphasizes how impulsive he still is, whihc makes sense. He's only 18 I think. Lori's response was also very representative of the person she has become. She has an emotional moment because she unable to comfort her mother because of her own mental health issues. I appreciate how Lori's story is playing out. There was another minor moment where Peter was recounting how the "crazy neighbor" was caught stealing from the store and Lori lambasts Peter stating that the woman deserved respect, clearly connecting after her own experience. It was a very strong moment. There was some nice light hearted comedy mixed in with Nancy. She goes to visit Gil at the office to make a play for him to be interrupted by Amber only for Gil to literally use the same routine on Amber that Nancy used on him to equal success. Then, out for New Years' Eve at the Castaway, Nancy is again hit on by Fred Winthrop, an older gentleman who recently came into money. In addiition, there were some nice cracks made by Alex Greeley about Lester Lewis in his conversations with Dave, who is trying to get back on staff at Kingsley General. I'm finding myself a bit bored with the Marianne / Russ stuff. I really liked the Vince / Becky dynamic and Marianne seeing Vince as the problem is a bit much for me. Vince is definitely problematic; a gangster who was cheating on his wife and had a child by his mistress who he continued to emotionally support. Marianne's own father Jason was so problematic to me with his holier than thou routine while also bedding down with Sharon Landers and romancing Terry Davidson. I don't think Marianne has asked to give back her commission for the paintings that Vince bought for the Hollister Mall. It just feels very insincere. I don't hate Marianne, but I can see why this dynamic didn't last long. Marianne's desire to show Russ the joy of faith when Lori couldn't is a bit repetitive, but at least that's addressed onscreen by Terry. I know Doug Hughes, the younger attorney of the people, returns later, but I would have had him as the other man in Marianne's life. The Miriam kidnapping stuff is well done with lighting and Miriam's dynamics wiht both Blue and Lance being so different. I thought the Blue / Miriam friendship was a nice touch that I don't think is often playe dbecause Blue is being used by Lance and Ronnie who are now setting him up as the fall guy in the kidnapping by having him pick up the ransom. Blue's downfall cannot be too far off with Dave and Ben talking about the newspaper article Gene's writing which would feature Blue's picture. I also feel there is a deep disconnect in the philosophy on this show in the sense of theory verse reality. At the clinic, Ben and Dave have another discussion about abortion leading to the discussion of government funding vs. private funding. The key to the plot is the need to fundraise, which I imagine is how we will see Kate Phillips, Dave's ex-wife, reenter his life. In a sense, I think the fundamental idea of Dave and Ben wanting to run the clinic their way without bureaucratic hand tying is appealing, but I don't personally accept their point of view. I am also starting to see a bit of a deep disconnect in the abortion debate from the show's foundational level. Dave states he saw two young women that morning seeking an abortion, with the allusion a third might be in the reception. In his recounting of the morning patients, Dave states how he encouraged both women to give the baby up for adoption. Yet, we also have a fundamental view that adoption / surrending a child has had negative outcomes. While not written by Vinley, Becky's adoption left her seeking approval and love in ways that were deeply complicated. Simutaneously, some of Nancy's issues seem to stem from the fact that she also wasn't raised by her biological mother, though I suspect the show sees Nancy as evil by birth rather than by the uneasy environment she was raised in. Though, most recently, there was a rather intensely emotional scene where Blue Noble goes on an eloquent (for Blue) exposition dump about how he was raised and dehumanized in foster care. It's hard to accept one preaching for life while simutaneously making all the villains have issues stemming from parental abandonment. I have finally made it into 1983 and looking forward to some of the stories from that year.
  4. The Santa Claus drag king act is worth it. Its also just a very nicely done sequence outdoors. While I'm not 100% thrilled it was played for laughs, having Harold and Santa kissing on a Christian soap in 1982 is mind blowing. Babs and Harold are the show's super couple. I just adore them. There is the added bonus of Harold deducing that Vince Cardello was the Prince, which is a lowkey way of resolving the earlier conflict between Harold and Babs where Harold thought Babs was hooking again and Vince was her john. Christmas 1983 is a little splashier I believe with a lot of musical numbers. There is a song or two, but it is much more calm and quiet evening. There is always so many what ifs with "Another Life." I'm curious what would have happened have Vinley launched the show if it would have had such a rocky beginning, or if that was inevitable due to the nature of the production launch with CBN. Winsor was a fairly decent writer and what I watched in his waning days was not quality. I also wouldn't let go of that brief headwriterless period where Nancy is launched because it is so powerful and so different from the period before and after. I have to wonder if Metromedia's decision to launch "Rituals" had any impact on clearnance for the show in its final year. I can't remember if anyone was even syndicating "Antoher Life" at that point, but I believe the Metromedia stations initially had to air "Rituals." I'm curious how Vinley would have done on a network soap. Maybe "Loving" in the post-Marland period or even "Captiol" in the post Henry Sleasar run. I watched a couple more episodes (through 410): I believe the highlight remains on Edye Byrd's Ione who had two fairly strong sequences in two very different stories. First, Ione goes to visit Charles Carpenter to offer her positive thougths and prayers for Miriam's safe return and Charles lambasts Ione blaming her for the kidnapping and saying there is no way that Miriam will return to Ione's when she is returned. Ione holds her own without stooping to Charles' level. In the other, Ione visits the clinic that has just opened and offers to be a receptionist for the day to Ben and Dave. Ione is a natural fit with her connection to the community, her general positive energy, and her giving spirit. I fear what this means for the boarding house, but I love having Ione so firmly entrenched into so many parts of the canvas. She's such a presence on the show. One thing that I noticed, especially with the presence of Ione, is how lily white Chesterfield has become in reference to the clinic. I hope there is a conversation about the black community's concern about the clinic due to historical medical racism, but I am not sure that will be addressed. Though, this is literally the only soap that I think might address it. Ione has specifically stated her connection to the community and I'm hoping we will see a bit more diversity in who comes through the clinic given how they have described Chesterfield in the months leading up to this. Continue on the Ione Redlon love rant, she addressed a very subtle issue with Ben, how many of the patients are unable to read and right. Blue also is unable to read and write well. I have to wonder if there wasn't a plan at some point to have Lori back in Chesterfield having adult literacy classes. Or if it is just a red herring by Jason Vinley on how the canvas will learn that Blue, not Monk and Fernandiz, was the one to attack Lori. Gene's role is also beefing up a bit. He wants to do a story on the clinic and its first patient, Blue, which I imagine will lead to Blue's identity being revealed to the important players. I also feel that the show has painted Blue in a much more complicated light, which I don't necessarily hate. It's compelling. Back to Gene, Gene has also spoken to Carla about supporting Monk because he sees a lot of himself in him. This is a great way to touch upon some of Gene's identity issues in a way that is uplifting. There was also some nice beats between Carla and Gene about the baby and Jimmy's possible resentment. I don't remember Jimmy's exact reaction, but I loved that this was touched upon. There are so many soap opera super couples in the modern era with age gap children (especially on "Days of our Lives") that this would be an interesting issue to explore. The only one I can think of is Sami and Belle, but that was obviously much more complicated than just the age difference. I'm surprised by how much Vinley is able to pack into each episode. There was some Amber / Gil banter which was nice, but not super memorable. I do wonder why Peter Davidson doesn't make the connection that Amber might be Dave's daughter, but Vinley seems to hint that people think it could be a professional name. Almost into 1983.
  5. I watched 401 - 407 (Christmas 1982). It is nice to revisit my friends in Kingsley. I forgot how good the show is, and the Christmas 1982 episode is a real highlight. Leading up to Christmas, we have some very well done moments. Jason Vinley continues to deliver a strong set of stories, characters, and interactions. Among the most noteable in the set was Blue Nobles visit to the clinic where Dave Phillips is treating the scar received months ago when he was attacked by Lori when he was attempting to rape her. Dave inquires about the nickname Blue and Blue goes into a maudlin tale about growing up in foster care and no one knowing his name. There were multiple kids in the home and they were all designated a color. Blue was his. It is a tragic backstory for a piece of work character that suggests that things are less about sin and more about circumstances. Blue was created, not born that way. Chandler Hill Harben does a spectacular job. Debbie McLeod is impressing more as Lori in this set. She has the heavy task of dealing with Lori's return to Kingsley. I think some of her realizations about things range from mildly poignant (her realization she doesn't have Christmas presents to give) to borderline devastating (getting upset with Terry because she wants to be able to comfort her mother on the verge of the anniversary of her father's death). I just wish some time was spent revisiting Lori and Russ because a broken Lori might find some sympathy from an equally complicated Russ. Maybe in later episodes. The kidnapping story is incredibly story with various threads tying together. You have Charles reading the letter from his grandson Eric, who has commented on how much his mother has changed and wants to reconnect with her. The letter is poignant and breaks the usually very stoic Charles, who has already had a beautiful and deep conversation about faith when Charles retreats on his interest in God after recovering. There is Blue agreeing to photograph Miriam for the ransom after Lance discovers Blue's shrine to his "girlfriend" Lori. By the time that Charles receives the phone call, everyone has said repeatedly it can't be a kidnapping because they have waited too long. I appreciate that beat being played. Then, you have Vince visiting Ron Washington to inquire about what Ron knows about Miriam's kidnapping and Ron playing the fool. I'm not completely aware of the trajectory of Ron's story, but I think that he is setting himself up with the double dealing. It's very intriguing. On the lesser intriguing, I'm not big on the Peter / Vicki angle. It's functional given the role Prescott Development plays on the show, but it's not as compelling as I think it could be. I did appreciate a very subtle nod to the Vicki / Peter story when Lori returns home and Peter apologizes not directly saying he failed to pick her up because he was out with Vicki . That was a crucial beat that would be lost on today's soaps. I'm glad we are shifting Gil towards Amber Phillips, who owns the modeling agency. There is some fun lighter domestic moments with Carla and Ione preparing for Chirstmas and Terry preparing dinner while Marianne Prescott stops by for the millionth time to complain about her relationship with Russ. The dinner prep is peppered with a bit of family backstory involving a family recipe that the late Scott Davidson wasn't very fond of. It all is much richer than the material from the first half of the year. Though, the best material of all has got to be Christmas, which opens with some beautiful exterior and outdoor shots set in Hollister Mall while Harold Webster walks through the shopping center while a familiar mall Santa collects for the less fortunate. As we hear Santa speak more and more, it is clear that Santa is the on-the-run Babs Farley. Babs' drag king Santa act is delightful culminating in the reunion of Babs and Harold in a very queer moment where Babs and Harold share their first kiss while Babs is still in her Santa garb. To make the beautiful reunion a truly "Another Life" moment Gil Prescott comes across Webster and Santa kissing completely bemused by the entire scenario. Harold and Babs' reunion is a true joy for the most unusual of couples. Harold telling Babs to leave again to stay safe is devastating. Harold going to the Redlons to share the news of Babs' visit was also poignant. I cannot wait for these two to be together again permanently. Also, another only on "Another Life" moment occurs when Dave Phillips joins the Davidson family for Christmas and tells Ben about a young woman seeking an abortion at the clinic. In what could have been a heavy handed moment, in turn it becomes a bit more embedded in Dave's personal history how his past involvement in government funded clinics required him to provide abortion services. The conversation ends with Ben and Dave discussing the need to maintain private donorship so that they aren't required to provide this service. While I completely disagree with the politics, I thought it was well done for the charactesr involved. Also, given the story of the young mother Mary at Christmas, I felt this was a well done moment. As a contrast, we also get the revelation of Carla's big secret: she's pregnant, which seems very much in the spriit of Christmas. In addition, it secures the end of marital hostilities between Gene and Carla as this is proof that they have resumed marital relations. "Another Life" continues to be a surprise. I'm not sure if it is just good TV or good because there is so much time away from it and the lack of connection to what was available in 1982. Either way, I'd recommend Christmas 1982.
  6. They started a Olivia / Buzz / Frank love triangle at one point (February 2006). I thought it was a terrible idea and stopped watching again. Others may have loved it
  7. I bought Chances a few years ago and made it fairly far (maybe into the early 110s) but didn't finish it. I found the final arc was less fun than the show was at it peak insanity (85ish-100). The show starts off very slow. I'd say the first couple episodes are fairly unmemorable other than the lotto and the ending to the first episode. The show picks up potential a bit with some interesting additions (George Mallaby's gangster character) that doesn't really go anywhere. I think by 18-20 I found the show was finally finding its place. Jeremy Sims is very good as the young male lead, Alex Taylor. As the show slims down its cast and centers on him, Sims continues to maintain the energy and momentum from those earlier episodes. Sims is a good sport and ends up being the focus of a lot of the nudity (backside only) though there was a fair bit of female nudity as well. I thought the pre-reboot episodes were my favorite (18-60 I think) with some clunkers in there, but mostly an enjoyable story involving a murder and a secret from the past that blended into a couple other stories. Connie Reynolds, the nurse sister, was one of my favorite characters. She was the very working class put upon sister more reserved than her hot headed brothers, Dan and Jack. Her ex-husband Eddie Reynolds pops up fairly early on and adds a lot of drama. Their oldest son, Chris Reynolds, is involved in a sexual exploration story with a gay character that leads to a gay bashing and Chris' later affair with another character. It's probably a daring story for the time, but it wasn't amazing by today's standards. Another Taylor son, Ben, is a hairdresser so everyone assumes he is gay. The best queer content is from later when Alex and his business partner Angela and jack of all trades Cal end up in a situation that suggests Alex and Cal may have gone to bed together. It's never confirmed completely, but the insinuation is heavy. Annie Jones pops up with a very different look than I was used to. Briohey Behets pops up for a couple episodes as a doctors between seasons of filming Families. On occassion, I consider revisiting it because I never did finish (same with Eldorado) and I want to see if I would still enjoy that earlier part of the show as much as I did the first time. Often, the show had really interesting potential that it never capitalized on during both its traditional and its Aussie take on Twin Peaks meets Soap. That level of insanity was really hard to maintain and its last lap about a vampire with a lisp didn't really work as well for me.
  8. Monty's attempt at EastEnders boiled down to everyone naming their ethnicity. The Eckerts were German. Angela and Joey were Italian. The Spencers were Irish. Everyone's favorite Connor Olivera (Michael Lynch) was Mexican-Scottish. If the characters had been richer in characterization, it would have worked. She really did see what had been coming down the pike with a more grounded reality needed for soaps as the 1990s came around, though I also have an unhealthy curiousity about how she would have produced a show in the post- JER/possession era. Monty went through so many co-writers with her sister. You had Norma Monty, Gene Palumbo, John Whepley, then you had Monty and Whepley, then you had Monty and Arthur Bernard Lewis, and then you finally had Monty and Linda Grover. Robert and Anna's departure reduced the cop shop element. Riche didn't keep Guy Lewis around or Remi, the female cop who basically replaced Sam Welles. I'm not sure if you could have had all those cops on the canvas without increasing the criminal element a little bit. I could see Anna / Robert fitting better into Labine's world than in Levinson's. Though in watching some May, 1992, episodes I see Anne Howard Bailey listed as a consultant (and John Porterfield and Linda Schreyer listed as storyline consultants) so maybe Howard Bailey could have made that work, but probably not well. I think others have suggested that Robert could have worked as Luke's voice of reason or an antagonist in the relationship between Luke and Sonny. I do think there was something to explore there, and a part of me would want to know if Anna and Robert could have survived as a couple Stone and Robin's HIV diagnoses. I think viewers would have stayed if any of the stories had been maintained prior to the boating accident. You cannot drop every single story at the same time and keep the audience. The Eckerts were more than likely developed for the soap that Monty was shopping to ABC in 1990 set in Portland. She was trying to develop a film studio in Oregon in order to produce the show as well as some of her other projects. Maybe she was hoping she could land Geary to star in that. I found early Monty 2.0 fairly dull after the initial disaster story, which wasn't even something I was that enthralled with. There was some fun comedy bits with Mac and his community service work, but so much just faded into the woodwork for me. Monty just takes such a wide swing from that to telling the story with Cartel and them getting people sick that it's very much about whiplash. By the tailend of Monty 2.0, the show is better, but nothing to write home about. Even Riche's early plotless months are more engaging to me, though I'm not sure that was the view of the public at large based on the ratings.
  9. I believe Jenny had a miscarriage. There was a congressional hearing about the whole incident and Jack Kensington tried to paint Jenny as some sort of Lolita-type who had been seducing him in order to extort money. I believe part of the ruse was that Jenny had aborted the baby, but Jenny's truth was that it had been a natural miscarriage. The abortion may have been the final straw in Ned and Jenny's marriage. Jenny also doesn't know why she lied about being a virgin. To save you the burden of watching a fairly long Jenny scene (over 5 minutes), Jenny says that she said it so that they wouldn't have sex before marriage because she didn't want to ever be in that position again. Ned makes the point that he could just said she didn't want to have sex. Jenny admits what she says sounds dumb even as it comes out of her mouth. The episode also includes the first time that Bobbie is reunited with Lucas after Cheryl's passing. Nothing is more telling to me about Monty's view of the Eckerts than the staging of Dawn and Decker's engagement in the Eckert bakery where you basically get the POV of Fred and Angela watching the engagement occur rather than focusing on the actual engagement. In all my years of hearing how shows have been invaded by new families, I've never seen new characters completely eclipse the established characters in the established characters own story climax. I half expected Angela to give a eulogy at Dawn's funeral. Also, after the initial flop of the Eckerts, the proposed Eckerts are basically abandoned. Even as Jenny recounts the pregnancy saga, it was just Angela and Jenny who knew even though there was at least a younger sister, Ava, who should have been around for the drama. And brother Mario also wasn't mentioned again. With all that said, I do like the more thinned down Eckerts (Bill, Jenny, with pop ins from Angela) because they were part of the fabric of the community and not the entire dress. I think the angle that connected Kensington and Jenny was Jenny's friendship with his daughter Betsy. They could have linked the multiple backstories by making the connetion related to Jenny's environmental activism. Jenny ends up being gone within a year or so. I guess it really didn't matter in the end.
  10. I think Sean and Tiffany had talked of having a baby in late September a week or two before Cheryl's car accident and they are caring for Lucas. Lucas' custody puts a halt to the baby plans and when Sean refuses to go along with Tiffany in the custody case, which torpedoed Tiffany's chances in court their marriage was in such a tough spot. I think Jessica's child would have been the next step in that process after the miscarriage and Sean not wanting to have 2 under 2 with his and Jessica's baby. I also assumed this may have caused Tiffany to pull away from Sean, but under Riche, it may have made them stronger. Tracy's abortion stance. I'm not sure if we have ever pinpointed when this occurred in the story. We always assume it was Tracy's views of Jenny's teenage pregnancy during the Jack Kensington story as I think everyone was led to believe Jenny aborted the baby rather than had a miscarriage because Kensington had the hospital records expunged. Tracy / Paul / Jenny / Ned is very late stage Monty 2.0. Tracy learns she is pregnant at the very end of January and Riche starts the first week of February. Ned and Jenny marry in February. This story plays out for most of 1992 with Levinson and Thoma adding the Julia / Ned angle in June / July and Levinson (solo) leading the charge with the Jack Kensington scandal where it was revealed a teenaged Jenny had gotten pregnant by family friend Jack Kensington, a senator, and later miscarried the baby. This story basically ends Ned and Jenny's marriage which united Paul and Jenny leaving Tracy in the wind while playing Tracy against a lovelorn Marco Dane. By May, 1993, Ned and Tracy are seeking revenge on Paul and Jenny and set up Paul on theft charges and then Tracy runs over Jenny in the parking garage. Levinson's work is seedy. I think what differentiates his misogyny from later General Hospital misogyny and Levinson's victimatization of women is meant to elicit sympathy for the female characters whereas JFP and Guza's was more about showing the strenght of men. I never get the sense that when A.J. and Jason Quartermaine are slut shaming Karen because of her relationship with Jagger, and her eventually stint as a stripper, was intended to make the Q boys look good, but rather make us feel for Karen. And during the custody battle, Bobbie and Tiffany bringing up each other's sordid sex worker pasts shows how far the women are willing to go, and highlights how far from the original goal they have gotten. Wyatt plays Tiffany's pain so well. In particular, the scene in the hospital where Tiffany is rejecting Sean's attempt at reconciliation is so emotional from everything that Sharon Wyatt emotes in her body language to the classic melacholy GH music cue to the emotionally heavy dialogue. I think the script writers really embed some beautiful subtext with Tiffany questioning why Jessica would lie (Tiffany's a reporter and would pick up on the "lack" of motivation) emphasizing how Tiffany is still unaware of Jessica and Sean's dalliance even though Stevie wonder can see Jessica fawning over Sean in front of his wife. In some ways, Tiffany's redemption starts to happen in waves with the pregnancy, and then she relapses when she learns of the affair and the miscarriage occurs. Doesn't Sean try to help clear Tiffany of Jessica's murder start the new reconcilliation? I agree with those who say they didn't go far enough to rebuild Tiffany. Palumbo's Tracy was fun, but not as well layered from what I recall. Her relationship with Scotty was more light hearted than some of the nastier elements Tracy had embodied before and after, but I don't remember her having as much humanity as she did in later incarnations. I haven't seen a lot of Monty 2.0 (all scattered), but I definitely thought Tracy was a more complicated character by the end of Monty's run where she briefly attempts to make a society girl out of Jenny so that her marriage to Ned will work out and it keeps her away from Paul. In the final month of Monty with Linda Grover as a headwriter with Norma, there was a brief set up for a rivalry between Tracy and the newly fabulous Angela Eckert, who had returned from her sabbatical in Italy as a buyer for a famous fashion company owned by her cousin. Carol Lawrence vs. Jane Elliot would have been fun, but maybe not sustainable. I can't see Tracy ever really letting "the baker's wife" have the upper hand. I find Tracy's position as head of special projects in spring 1993 more heartbreaking than comical, as I think it was intended. Like you said, Edward always underestimates the business accumen of Tracy. Caroline and Bobby Chandler were created by the Hollands, I believe, and were basically cribbed from their radio soap, To Have and To Hold, which premiered around the time that they started at General Hospital. On their radio show, Robert Carter, a lawyer, was married to a wealthy widow, Caroline, his second wife, who had a daughter from her previous marriage, Ann. Robert's son, Jason, was a doctor at the local hospital who's wife, Emily, had started experiencing unexplained headaches and aural hallucinations that suggested a brain tumor. I think the Hollands tweaked a lot of this for General Hospital.
  11. I know that Elliot and Riche didn't see eye to eye, but that never came across on screen to me. Tracy is such a layered character in that period. I definitely see a lot of the open wound, but I also think that her intelligence was often so overlooked by the general canvas. There are moments during the summer of 1992 where she has deduced that Tracy has deduced that Paul and Jenny spent the night together at the lighthouse during the blackout and that Ned and Julia spent the night at the Port Charles Hotel together. There's almost nothing she can do about either situation because her marriage is so precarious and the pain just sits below the surface. The writing in general under these early Riche years is just phenomenal. Another great Tracy and Monica playing nice scene from shortly after Dillon was born. I appreciate the fact that you have so many emotions playing out in the course of a single scene and how this scene, like their final scene, echos how each woman has different levels of turmoil in their life and that they don't really have to be each other's enemy:
  12. This episode features a bunch of Tiffany related scenes that frame the context of the Sean and Tiffany scenes in the June 14th episode: Sean and Jessica had just begun their affair and I believe Sean insinuates to someone that he was using the relationship with Jessica in order to ensure he could continue his unorthodox methods involving Felicia / Mac / Ryan, which we see culminate at the end of the episode when you have Jessica inform the hospital crew (all of whom are in on the scheme except Ryan) that Felicia is dead. I enjoyed Tiffany's crash out over losing custody of Lucas leading to the drinking and DUI that is blatantly referenced and the pill popping which was set up in this episode. It's definitely a darker turn for a more light hearted character. I think @carolineg shared some insights on why they also don't love it. I think the biggest issue I have is these stories need to spend enough time with the redemption arc, which we never really get with Tiffany and Sean. Jessica dies in early September 1993, I believe, only weeks before Labine arrives. The natural conclusion should have been Tiffany and Sean raising Jessica and Sean's child wondeirng if Jessica's genetics would influence it. I think emphasizing that Tiffany is so uncentered at the start of the dead Felicia scheme that she was missing meetings with Lucas helped to justify Jessica's demands, which Sean also agrees with by the end of the April 23 episode when chatting with Tony.
  13. This is Monica and Tracy's final scene in 1993 before Tracy's exile from the Q Mansion and Port Charles. I really appreciate how Monica and Tracy could find a common ground at times during this period. It probably helps the Tracy is purposefully evasive about the reasons behind Edward declaration. Monica suggesting that the entire Q clan can be self-destructive is more poignant and reflective than hostile and aggressive as it might have been penned by the 2000s.
  14. I think there were hard decisions to be made in late 2008/early 2009 especially since the show was on the verge of being cancelled. This was the time of the infamous "Days won't be around in 2010" line from Jeff Zuker or some other NBC honcho. I don't think there was any way to feasibly go forward with all those vets leading story. I am always curious if the show could had kept John and Marlena around in a more supporting role in this period (limited guarantees or recurring) if the audience would have accepted it. I've always felt them being gone for a bit made people more accepting of the more supporting role in those mid-2010 years. The super couple fans were definitely treated badly. The comments about just seeing their favorites at fan events and then writing those books with the gone characters. It wasn't respectful. Steve and Kayla's non-exit as well. I don't love the way it went down, but it also didn't have the impact people thought it would. The numbers actually went up in this period (2009) without the fired vets and mostly carried through by the baby swap storyline. It definitely seemed that a strong story with an emotional climax could maintain the viewers even without some fan favorites. That's not to say that John and Marlena couldn't have carried one of those stories, but the guarantees in that era were tight. Peter Reckell's PR person loved to go to SOD every time Reckell's guarantees were up and he was sidelined for a few weeks. The ratings may not have gone up substanitally, but enough that they staved off the original cancellation. I definitely feel this was a love it or hate it period and was part of a very tumultous couple years with highs and lows (you and I would probably disagree about which was which and probably already have lol). The 2011 reset of course was then undone by the 2012-2013 reset which was undone by the 2015 reset and so on and so on. I think Ron Carvilati's work did manage to save the show from yet another cancellation precipice and I would say that he used John and Marlena pretty significantly. I am not sure it was the only way to survive, but it did. Do you feel the same about Vivian's 2009 return?
  15. I love beating a dead horse so I'm not offended. I don't know of any archive for this. I would love to rewatch 2008-2017 again to see how things evolved. I got a drive years ago that had most of this, but it would only work on certain devices which was a pain so I just stopped trying. Cody Longo was good as Nikolas. I know people hated Quinn as Vivian's son, but having a situation with Vivian having to deal with the boy she considered a son and the man who was her son would have been great. Since I suspect that the show was originally going to have Gabi get pregnant in 2011, slipping Longo's Nikolas into the role later filled by Nick Fallon as Gabi's faux baby daddy would have been interesting. Vivian's grandnephew raising the child of Kate's grandson would have just continued to fuel the drama especially with Melanie paired off with Gabi's brother, Dario.
  16. I think the show desperately needed to broaden the canvas and there were too many sacred cow couples that had become limited by the more extremist members of their fan bases (wasn't there something in 2007 about Steve and Kayla sleeping on sheets that fans bought for John and Marlena?). It was definitely a divisive decision (cutitng the vets) that I can understand upset people, but, to me, Carly's return had little to do with the others being written out. Bo and Hope's story was leading to a breakup and Carly was the determined to be the final factor. Having her initial story tied to murdering Lawrence because of her desire to keep her long lost daughter safe worked for me though Salem's reaction to it was confusing. It gave Carly more purpose than just returning to be Bo's side chick. I do agree that Carly's return wasn't going to give the show a big ratings boost, but, by that point, the show could no longer afford to be a show driven by a few people. As someone who was tired of seeing yet another incarnation of Billie, I thought Carly's return was a breath of fresh air. Carly was integrated well as a member of the ensemble by utilizing the connections on the canvas. To me, bringing back Carly was the equivalent of bringing back Chloe or Nicole, a past character with some ties, but not too many incestuous connections that they couldn't be moved around a bit. There had been more time since she had left, but Chappell was hardly gone from the daytime universe for that entire time. The show needed more utility players. So many of the characters cut in the 2008-2009 purge were fairly set in their relationships. Tying her to Daniel and Melanie made sense in the context of what the show was doing at the time, which was building out relationships and families besides the few that had been hyper focused on for many years. I do think Daniel and Melanie were both divisive charactes because they were allowed to stay while so many vets were let go. Daniel, as a doctor, fit well into the medical community that was being reestablished even if his sexual exploits bordered on uncomfortable. Molly Burnett had energy, which was something I felt was lacking in so much of the younger set (though Shelly Hennig grew on me in her final months delivering that phenomenal wedding dress confessional to Nathan). Did all of Melanie's wacky antics land? No, but more did for me than didn't and giving her other connections (motherly Maggie, surrogate big brother Brady, friend Arianna) worked at establishi With all this said, I do think Carly and Bo 2.0 fizzled really quick, but I don't think it was ever intended to be endgame. I seem to recall by December 2009, they had hinted at Daniel being Melanie's father so it was clear where the story was going to go after Carly and Bo ended. I would agree though little was done with Carly / Bo, and Carly / Hope, in order to utilize the relationship. I would have had Hope on the hospital board making Carly's life miserable, but I am not sure if Alfonso would have allowed Hope to revisit that level of privilege that Hope use to have. I just really enjoyed that initial Bo / Carly stuff and Carly's connection with other characters on the canvas.
  17. I thought Crystal Chappell's return was fine at "Days of our Lives." It wasn't perfection, but it fit in well with what Higley, Whitsell, and Tomlin were doing in that era. Opening with Carly killing a crazy haired Lawrence and acting like Carly was this common criminal was a very odd stance to take, but it was clearly meant to generate conflict and give Melanie reasons to be leary of Carly when she learned she was her mother later on. That slant did continue a bit, but I didn't think it hurt her overall placement on the show. The show had spent the better part of 2008-2009 building the rift between Hope and Bo over Bo's decision years prior to keep the secret that Chelsea had run over Zack with Bo's "go alone" tactics in several events (Theo's disappearance, the vision of Hope shooting Kayla, and Ciara's kidnapping) leading to the deconstruction of Hope and Bo's marriage. I thought Bo and Carly went to bed a bit too quickly, but I absolutely loved the scene of Carly showing up at Mickey and Maggie to share her condolences with Maggie after Mickey died only for Hope to open the door moments after Hope had learned Carly and Bo had hit the sheets. Carly and Bo 2.0 didn't feel like endgame, which may have been part of the problem. Once they got together, the story was more about Bo and Hope being kept apart and Carly slowly weaving her way back into Daniel and Melanie's lives than anything else. I guess not spending more time on Carly and Bo as an actual couple could have been considered a flop, but I just never thought they were going to go there permanently. I thought Carly's days were numbered when Melissa Reeves came back, but the pivot into the darker Carly (which probably was the intention all along) with the drug abuse and slowly becoming involved with Quinn Hudson, Vivian's long lost drug dealing pimp son, worked for me at the time. With more time between then and now, I can see how really bleak the canvas became, but I still would have rather seen what happened in 2011-2012 with Higley than anything that we got with MarDar (as I still believe we would have gotten a gay Will).
  18. I really enjoy the Grace Driscoll story from the broad outline of it, but I am curious how the day to day dialogue was. Young didn't have terribly good luck with television, but there could be a number of reasons for that. Even with it being a mostly domestic story, there seems to be twinges of the criminal stuff that Young spent so much time doing in the earlier part of the decade. Grace's mother was Edna Driscoll. It's not stated in the summaries, but Linda Chalmers' rival is Debby Nelson, Miles' sister who married Linda's brother Craig Chalmers. Craig may have been one of Carolyn's post Miles Nelson love interests. I have some more consistent summaries for the last year and a half, but I thought it was good to end this batch with Lee and Carolyn's wedding. And it was getting late. The only other soap from the late 50s I've done this level of research on is "The Road of Life." Unfortunately, lots of papers are not consistent of what and when they would cover different shows so it can be very painstaking to uncover information since most searches will just turn up the radio schedule with the shoes listed in them. I may look into "Young Doctor Malone" at some point.
  19. Here are some brief weekly descriptions (scattered) from 1956-March, 1959. It gives a broad sense of the plot. The early to mid-1950s has all the political intrigue followed by the scams of Jack Townsend and the insurance fraud ring. It only really improves when it is cancelled in late 1957 and returns in March, 1958, focusing on family and romantic intrigue. ----- January 3, 1956: Tells the story fo Carolyn Nelson, played by Claudia Morgan, a young widow facing the problem of supporting a teenaged Skippy. March 14, 1956: Widowed Carolyn Nelson continues her philanthropic work, unknowingly surrounded by forces of evil. August 29, 1956: Secretly working with the District Attorney’s Office, Carolyn Nelson continues her friendship with Jack Townsend until specific evidence against him can be collected by the prosecutor. Claudia Morgan stars as Carolyn Nelson. September 10, 1956: Jack Townsend falls prey to his own subtle game when he succumbs to the flattery of Carolyn Nelson, who is secretly working with the District Attorney to regain a huge sum of money Townsend obtained through fraud. Claudia Morgan stars as Carolyn, and Staats Cotsworth is featured as Jack Townsend. September 13, 1956: Swindler baited on Right to Happiness. September 18, 1956: Carolyn Nelson faces a court charge of mismanaging trust funds when Jack Townsend is arrested as a swindler. September 20, 1956: with the arrest of Jack Townsend as a swindler and the resulting exposure of his inability to repay a huge, unsecured loan from the Wayne Trust she administers, Carolyn Nelson realizes she faces a court charge of mismanaging the trust funds. Claudia Morgan stars as Carolyn. December 29, 1956: Lee MacDonald is faking an accident to learn of the ambulance chasing racket suffers injuries. February 23, 1957: Lee MacDonald, feigning injuries in an automobile accident in order to trap a ring of insurance claims shysters, suffers doubts after granting Carolyn Nelson, his secretary, permission to confide his secret in her 16-year-old son and David Lynch, a close friend on CBS Radio’s “Right to Happiness” at 2:05-2:15 PM EST. John Larkin and Claudia Morgan portray Lee MacDonald and Carolyn Nelson. March 2, 1957: Carolyn Nelson’s self-concern over secret involvement in the dangers of an insurance claims racket investigation pales when she dawn into a frightening dispute between Linda Chalmers and her sister-in-law, both old friends. March 8, 1957: On the first day during Lent on which World Day of Prayer is observed throughout the world, Right to Happiness brings a portion of the church service attended by the star of the series, Carolyn Nelson. July 14, 1957: The specialist hired by Carolyn Nelson to prove that Lee MacDonald is being victimized by insidious drug treatments at a nursing home reports he can find no organic deterioration but implies Lee is in great need of psychiatric therapy on CBS Radio’s “Right to Happiness” at 3:30 to 3:45 PM. Meanwhile, the insurance claims racketeers operating the rest home press MacDonald’s suit for $200,000 knowing his appearance in court will provide a dramatic exhibit of mental injury July 24, 1957: Seasoned racketeers on Right to Happiness August 7, 1957: Evidence left unguarded on Right to Happiness. August 21, 1957: Police cooperation given on Right to Happiness. September 18, 1957: Emotion upsets judgment on Right to Happiness. October 8, 1957: Helen Mason, nurse attending Lee MacDonald, reports overhearing a racketeer’s confession of drugging her patient, rushes the information to the authorities, and breaks the defense of a fraudulent insurance claims case. Ruth Newton is featured as the nurse in the series starring Claudia Morgan. October 9, 1957: Nurse becomes alert on Right to Happiness. November 14, 1957: Interest beyond duty on Right to Happiness. December 7, 1957: Lee MacDonald starts work on his novel in radio program “Right to Happiness,” here here over WMAZ at 2 pm daily. John Larkin is heard as Lee MacDonald. March 29, 1958: Monday, “Right to Happiness,” daytime dramatic serial starring Claudia Morgan returns to CBS five days a week. First heard in 1939, story dramatizes the life of Carolyn Nelson, young widow. Program will be heard Mondays through Fridays at 2:05 PM April 10, 1958: Bitter experience on Right to Happiness. July 23, 1958: Despite the days of anguish his sister caused by running off with his infant son, Craig Chalmers argues with his wife to be lenient when the child is returned. Craig is forced to a painful realization of his sister’s emotional instability. August 28, 1958: When teenaged Skip Nelson accuses his mother of snobbery, she realizes the depth of his infatuation for Grace Driscoll, brash newcomer with questionable associates. Carolyn’s quiet investigation of the girl’s family and friends confirms her qualms. September 3, 1958: To refute her teenage son’s accusation of snobbery over his firendship with Grace Driscoll, widow Carolyn Nelson gives a small party for him and invites the girl. Carolyn gambles on opening his eyes to the girl not acceptable as a member of his group. September 9, 1958: Hearing Grace Driscoll, 17-year old newcomer to Meridian, boast of her ability to influence Skip Nelson’s future, his mother investigates their friendship which is being fostered by the girl’s conniving parents. September 25, 1958: Carolyn Nelson, widowed mother of 17-year old Skip, is shocked ot hear he plans to leave school to take a full-time job and marry Grace Driscoll. She quietly persuades him to wait until he completes his senior year. Meanwhile, she strikes on a plan to make him aware of the financial responsibility he must be prepared to assume. October 1, 1958: In her attempts to break off her 17-year-old son Skip’s romance with Grace Driscoll, widow Carolyn Nelson wins unexpected support. The employer of Grace’s shiftless father makes a suggestion. October 20, 1958: Carolyn Nelson learns about the unsuccessful attempt of her teenage son and Grace Driscoll to be married by a justice of peace. THis justifies Carolyn’s giving the boy shocking facts about Grace’s dishonesty. October 27, 1958: Recent crisis occurred when the son of the heroine tried to elope with Grace Driscoll. The couple overlooked the fact that they needed a license. October 30, 1958: When 17-year-old Skip Nelson scoffs at the shocking facts about the dishonesty of the girl whom he tried to elope, his mother persuades him to delay the marriage until he has finished high school. November 12, 1958: Carolyn Nelson temporarily delays her 17-year-old son Skip’s elopement with Grace Driscoll by promising them a church wedding and reception if they postpone marriage for four weeks. December 10, 1958: Two weeks before her marriage to classmate Skip Nelson, Grace Driscoll is placed on probation for cheating in an honor system examination. Skip is shaken by the confirmation of his mother’s objection to Grace. December 18, 1958: As plans progress for the wedding of teenaged Skip Nelson and Grace Driscoll, his mother fights her misgivings about the girl’s honesty. Grace’s parents volunteer no help with reception or furnishing of an apartment. December 25, 1958: In a broadcast within a broadcast, Claudia Morgan, star of the daily “Right to Happiness" serial, introduces a reading of her favorite Christmas story, Henry Van Dyke’s “The Other Wise Men.” January 19, 1959: On the eve of her marriage to teenaged Skip Nelson, Grace Driscoll cannot find the money she has saved to pay for her wedding dress. She finally gets the dress. February 8, 1959: The night before his marriage to Grace Driscoll, 17-year old SKip Nelson is called to police court and hears that his bride-to-be has pleaded guilty to stealing the wedding dress she is planning to wear. February 21, 1959: Nursing regret over his broken romance with Grace Driscoll, 17-year-old Skip Nelson learns that she needs his help in a matter involving her ne’er-do-well father. Carolyn, Skip’s widowed mother, fears a renewal of the youngsters’ determination to get married. March 3, 1959: Though widowed Carolyn Nelson resents her son Skip’s love for Grace Daniels, she admires the young girl’s heroic effort to save her ne’er-do-well father from tragedy. By her kindness to Grace at this moment, Carolyn regains her son’s confidence. March 9, 1959: Lee MacDonald and widowed Carolyn Nelson decide to marry on Friday, the 13th, and break the news to her son. March 12, 1959: Friday: The hero Lee and the heroine Carolyn of John M. Young’s “Right to Happiness,” to be married at 10:05 am on KNX. Claudia Morgan has been Carolyn Nelson for 16 of the serial’s 20 years and Kevin McCarthy Lee MacDonald less than two years ago.
  20. Regarding "The Right to Happiness," I imagine the televised radio adaptations of "One Man's Family," "Portia Faces Life," and "The Road of Life" in quick succession killed any hope of the show making it to TV. Phillips had stopped writing for the show in late 1942 so her connection to it was long gone. By the late 1950s, you also ran into the show's history presenting itself on the screen with Carolyn married to one man (Lee) while still cordial with her former sister-in-law Debbie (from her marriage to Miles) and raising her son Skip (by her marriage to Dwight). And, if they revealled to Skip he was born in prison (which I don't think he learned on radio), they would have to address her first marriage to Bill Walker. There was also "Young Doctor Malone" route of just resetting the show with Carolyn and new husband, while maintaining her son Skip. Late run "Right to Happiness" could have played on TV easy with its stories, but I imagine networks may have wanted more control of things like casting by that point. Also, radio shows were seen as dated after a while, even while shows like "Right to Happiness" were keeping up with the times by having Carolyn return to the workforce, Anne Braden becoming discontent at just being a housewife, and emphasizing the class conflict between Skip and lower class Grace Driscoll. I also have to wonder if the fact that those late run shows started to collect exclusive radio talent, that the possibility of transitioning the cast to television seemed too difficult.
  21. In time for the 40th anniversary of the show's conclusion There is a second part. The first part has closed captions available. The second does not. The first scene features a music cue in the background that sounds like one of the final themes from "The Doctors." I was surprised to hear in the end of the first part that the C.J. has only won the primary against the incumbent, Governor Harrison, while I had read he had won the entire race. Given the September airdate, the primary made more sense. With the threatening note, I believe more that the shooting was intended to be the 4th quarter cliffhanger to convince stations to buy the show for the 1st quarter of the second year. I cannot imagine that the original plan was Christina. I also had never realized how long Christina's monologue is. It takes up a good chunk of what would have been the final half-hour episode.
  22. I appreciate this episode in the most unusual way. I'm always interested in "The Catlins," but this was quite bad. I do think there were a few bright moments with Julie Ridley (who I think may have elevated her scene partner, Kent Whipple), but overall I felt I finally understood why it received the grief it did in the press in 1983. In comparison to CBN's "Another Life," this is quite amateurish. Even with the addition of Steve Lehrman (Henry Sleasar's script writer from EON) the show is still struggling to gain some footing. I see what Lehrman was attempting in the scenes with Lauren / Matt and Lauren / Beau as this was most likely the central story now the Powell Jackson is in jail (I'm assuming he was Robert Goode's killer or was involved in some plot that resulted in his death). There is an attempt to give layers to both the brothers by making Beau more impulsive and impetuous and Matt more logical and slightly pompous. Poor Christina Reguli, a beautiful woman, is stuck constantly getting verbally attacked (in the last episode, as Lauren, she learns she's pregnant as Matt's ex-wife Crissy arrived to wish her well on marriage to Beau). The script isn't subtle and the performances are broader than I would prefer. I thought the moments where Matt admitted he still cared for Lauren had potential and the general outline of the fight, a wedding celebration, was admirable, but the show needs a lot of work. There are no writer credits but the creative consultant is the defacto headwriter. Lehrman was hired after Sam Smiley was dismissed. Smiley wasn't credited in the July, 1983, episode. I believe creator/producer C.T. McIntrye was a pseudo interim headwriter. According to the creidts, Lehrman is joined by Joe Ranier as Dirk Stack, an executive at Catlin Enterprises, and Charles Hill (ex-TEXAS) as Woody Thorpe. Neither actor appear in this episode, but both are involved with Maggie Catlin Brown (Julie Ridley Williams). It would seem Roger Brown, Maggie's lawyer husband, seems to be on his way out the door. The Roger / Maggie material was probably the most reflective. Kent Whipple was very dry in his deliver, which was a pleasant change from a lot of the other performers. I thought Maggie and Roger reminscing about their law school days and the failure of their marriage was decent, but the dialogue definitely could have used some work. It was also nice to hear that Roger mention he was involved with Faith, who was played by Marion Guyot, who was the wife of Dan Albright (Matt). The Medger / Seth scenes set in what I assume was a very real production office of "The Catlins" standing in for the Southern Coastal Bank, I think that was the name of the Quinn's financial instituation, wasn't as effective as they thought it would be. Danny Nelson works better as comic relief in later episodes, and does well in some of the more emotional stuff involving his granddaughter in the Christmas, 1984, episodes I've seen. This is very hard to watch. It's curious to see that it is Seth Quinn who starts the hunt to ruin the Catlin family financially. His brother Cullen's drug operation is what eventually does him in. I thought it was smart to have Seth go after Powell Jackson, the unhinged psychiatrist seen holding Jennifer Catlin hostage in the late July, 1983, promos online. Using Powell to reveal new family secrets was an interesting choice. I feel like Lehrman directed the showed into a better place, it was just gonna take time.
  23. @DRW50 I have never seen this episode. The only 1983 episode I have seen pop up is from a month or so before in July, 1983, right after Bo and Lauren’s wedding. I haven't watched it all yet, but this is the first time I’ve seen Brett Rice as Seth Quinn, Larry Jordan as Beau Catlin, and Kent Whipple as Roger Brown. Thanks @EricMontreal22
  24. The interesting thing is that the show was at its most provocative, in my opinion, in the era where there were also no traditional broadcasting people leading the show. In November-December, 1981, between Bob Aaron's departure and Darryl Hummel's arrival, the show really approaches a lot of hot button issues that seems to dull quite a bit when the Barnes' arrive in late 1981. With that said, I do think there are issues that soaps would have been more fearful to approach even in the other periods. It was just interesting to consider how a lot of TPTB came from traditional soaps (Winsor, Aaron, Vinley, Hummel) and how that may have shaped the way the show evolved. I think the issue is also the lack of knowledge of some of these 1980s off-network soaps is so limited that people are probably coming across them in some found VHS/Beta footage and not knowing what it is or what it is worth. Soap operas were significant early original scripted ontent on cable television and, as such, I think might hold a little more interest than possibly traditional network fare to TV historians. Jerry Timms is an attractive guy. His charm often overshadows his ability, which works for a character like Gil. His Gil appears more low key compared to J. Michael Hunter's Gil who seems more sitcom like in some of the material I have seen with him. The story sounds like something out of the show itself. I imagine if only Timms had Timms agreed to repent like some of the televanglists caught in scandals later in the decade. There's something very wholesome about Jeanette Larson. She plays everything so earnestly without overdoing it (at least some of the early stuff in her relationship with Matt Williams' Ben that easily could have been overdone given the quick pace of the material). Her Lori has a great rapport with Chris Roland's Russ as well even after the breakup and such nice ease with both Renee Crawford and Susan Scannell. I'll be curious to see where things go with Debbie McLeod, who definitely bares a nice resemblance to Mary Jean Feton. I made it a little past 400 before taking a break. Amber Phillips just showed up at the construction office to solicit Gil for use of the construction site for a photo shoot. Amber bares a resemblance to Deena Greely, but Peggy Smithhart seems more energetic than Donna Denton. In addition, Amber has more built in conflict with her newly returned father (who I haven't seen her with yet). The setup is done quickly, but you can already see where the story is heading. Terry had a very nice showdown of sorts with Charles, who has recovered nicely from his heart attack and has dropped his interest in Jesus. Charles implies that Terry is foolish to give her energy to her faith and Terry makes the point of her faith as an investment stating that the bigger risk for Charles is not to believe. I thought it was a valid point without being as heavy handed as it could have been. Miriam is trapped in the gardening shed with her cat, Gabriel, and managed a brief escape thanks to Blue's incompetence. People are slowly becoming more and more concerned about Miriam's disappearance and Harold is pressing John Brubaker to do more. I do appreciate that they acknowledge that it is crazy that no ransom demand has been made so they are dismissing the idea of kidnapping. There was also a nice little bit of story crossover when Ben and Lori are out of town having dinner close to where Lori is hospitalized and Babs, who is on the run, pops up. To remind us that Babs in the wig is a disguise, Ben initially thinks it is Miriam, but Babs quickly dismisses them. Nancy has attempted to make a play for Dave Phillips, which at least makes some sense to me as Nancy would be searching for a new husband. Dave seems very unfazed by Nancy. The clear endgame is Dave and Terry already, which makes sense. The setup for Nancy and Vicki's revenge against Gil is slowly forming, and if it is what I think it is, I will say it will be the biggest disappoint in Vinley's run so far. I wish that they had just had Vicki #2 be a new character at this point. In Russ' story, Marianne has become increasingly interested in what it is that Vince Cardello does for work, which is pertinent because of Russ' decision to join his father's operation. Vince has a nice standoff between Russ and Vince over whether or not this triangle can end with all three parties still getting along; Vince says there will be no happy ending for all of them. I appreciate that Vince is now the unintentional interloper in Marianne and Russ' relationship, but I really would have loved for Carrie Weaver's busybody self to show up and make Marianne prefer Vince's mob life to Carrie's Lady MacBeth / Jocasta cosplay. I probably will start with this again in a week or two. I just needed a break because I feel like as I enter this era there is so much backstory that I need to be more aware.
  25. @YTG Wow. This length of time you committed to this project is remarkable. I mean digitizing the episodes itself must have been super time consuming itself, but the pacing of acquiring the episodes is wild. Lori's assault is pretty powerful. I was actually speaking with a friend about the sequence on Saturday and the hints of racism that are embedded into the story of Monk and Fernandiz being accused of the attack due to their other crime. Jason Vinley's early work there is very remarkable considering the time period. The sequence of the chase between Blue and Lori is quite remarkable. A lot of the filmwork in that story is fairly strong. Blue watching Lori and Marianne play tennis through his dark shades is something out of a thriller. Hummel does a nice job capturing suspense in some of the episodes I've seen. Other beautifully shot suspense scenes include Dennis Frazer outside the Davidson home with Terry frightened on the other side (early 1982) and Gene Redlon racing to and through the airport to prevent Carla from running off with their son, Jimmy (spring 1982). These all seemed much stronger than the opening car accident and even the raid of the drug cargo ship in the fall of 1981. I am glad you found your way to this board. I did try to join that group weeks (months?) ago and got no response to my request. It is fine. I am not losing any sleep over it. You have provided some very interesting details. I believe Travis (who did the interviews) posted on this board briefly years ago. Earlier, he posted on danfling's soap opera board as he (at the time) shared an interest in the more obscure cable soaps like myself; I remember speaking with him about the number of episodes of "A New Day in Eden." The work the two of you have done is remarkable. My favorite of the interviews I have read is with Jason Vinley. Such insight into the process of the show, especially its creation from Vinley's perspective is delightful. I have read it at least a half dozen times at this point. Thanks for sharing where you started watching. I am curious have you been able to determine with what episodes were first shown in your country through archived newspapers listings. Sometimes they help and sometimes they don't. I am curious if the show was sold in its entirely internationally before the repackaging in 1984. Scott and Nora's deaths stand out. Scott's death may be the episode I have watched the most over the years because it's just so stark seeing Mary Jean Feton sobbing while covered in what is suppose to be Scott's blood on her cheek and uniform. I can't see any show ever getting that messy (literally) with a death. CBN still having the tapes is intriguing. This is something that I think is getting lost; material from the 1980s is getting old and deteriorating. I'll be curious to see if anything pops up of the early episodes. To be honest, the early episodes from Roy Winsor and Bob Aaron were a bit of a chore to get through and I admire some of Winsor's writing elsewhere. I have seen articles about the show being cancelled stating they would immediately pick up with reruns, which is quite interesting. Its a shame they couldnt find ways to financially make it work but its an interesting alternative though I will be curious to see how I feel about 1983-1984. What have been some of your favorite characters and/or stories?

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