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Anna was one of my favorites and I still miss this character. Another weird thing that I enjoyed that I shouldn't have was the problems with the closing credits. When they were updated after Liz Hubbard returned and Campbell and O'Brien were promoted to make it a group of six, the text didn't line up and it wasn't just at the end of one episode but many. Eventually they got it right, but it made me laugh though feel bad because obviously in those days it was done by hand, which was more difficult. And then you have the behind the scenes people, and the tie-in between Dark Shadows' sets being inherited by Ryan's Hope, which is a whole other game. I adore geeky stuff like that. What gets bad eventually with TD in 1970 is that things start to drag with many many flashbacks, which will save time, but are annoying. (They didn't plan it well when Liz went on maternity leave, as we had Althea flashbacks, and it was frustrating, like they didn't know she was going to have a baby and not be available. They could have done something with the other characters in that story during the interim like have them practice medicine, and have Althea out of town visiting Penny.)

LOL TimWil about Geri being critical of writers and not producers. I can comment a bit on the GL material with Marland, but have not seen any of his TD stuff. Sometimes I wonder why people can't do more comedy, but that's the nature of the genre typically. I think I have to watch The Adams Chronicles before the rest gets pulled, but knowing myself I'll spend too much time laughing instead of paying attention. Getting back to Martha, more recently I've been happier with the character, but when she was all OMG Nick and Althea are going to get married, when Althea wasn't divorced I was rather annoyed. She is smarter than that. I wonder if it isn't because at work sometimes Carolee is called Simpson by Matt. Althea never changed her last name even if at times, she was married to people that weren't Dave Davis.

I just wish that Martha wasn't so doting on Nick. He isn't perfect and she shouldn't always be on his side. I wonder how this happened with casting that he didn't have chemistry with whom they paired him with, did they test them with other actors instead, which is why it didn't work? I understood why they got rid of Rico at that time, even if I liked Richard Niles. There wasn't anyone on canvas for him to interact that was near his age and having him work at the hospital didn't exactly fit. If Penny had been slightly older and on screen, I would have thought they would have put Penny with Rico.

It sounds like she has an outside friendship with one of the actors, how interesting.

I enjoyed Liz on the ledge, actually I really enjoyed Liz Liz (trademark Jody Lee Bronson) even if not all the stories were too my liking. Monika you heard from CC Courtney that's fun, hope he is doing well.

TimWil thanks for posting all of that here. Did your friend Geri ever share how she came to get on Guiding Light? I'm asking as Allen Potter hired her for TD and then years later she ended up as Amanda's mother on GL. I'm hoping they had a good relationship or else that wouldn't have happened. Is the Adams Chronicles available anywhere? I'm wondering because it would be fun to see.

DRW50, wow you have some avarice towards Tim Gibbs. (No idea what he did, so please explain since off topic can you share at least when it happened.) Individual episodes of Santa Barbara were extremely well written it was just the stories on whole that were offensive. I agree that soaps shouldn't focus on one person or else they can get screwed. With Santa Barbara, they did have other people with story that weren't Marcy, but those actors ended up getting bogged down with recasts, making things not as strong.

I wonder if that episode is at Paley from 1976 as Gerald Gordon was listed as cast. Does anyone know? If they skip or edit it at least then there would be a possibility to see it. When it comes to the 1982 episodes that were shared from watching it sounded like LeeAnn was brought to Steve for a medical appointment and the girl's behavior alarmed him. (OFC Steve seeing Billy's child as a doctor is a bit weird, though Matt or Maggie would have been even worse, was there no one else other than Althea? There was a line about Billy, so she may be afraid of men in general.) When we saw her, she wasn't talking or interacting like a child of that age normally would. I hope my guess is correct and if not someone will correct me.

This isn't a real spoiler, but I was amused by the credits from those episodes in early 1982. Why because only Althea is listed with her medical title? Was this the norm or just a strange fluke? Also what was interesting was that these episodes were done by Harding Lemay.

I find it dull when everyone finds their true love at 15 or 16 years old. While I know it is a fictional story, I like the idea of characters being friends for years, and later realizing that they could date. That's what I'd prefer for Ben and Piper, as it would be different than what they did for Piper's twin siblings, who pretty much were both stuck on the idea of one person.

For me the thing with Ben and Piper, is I could see them being together when they are older. I like the idea of a younger character being in a relationship that isn't toxic, and isn't fated forever.

Thanks for the photo and the year, it is a bit sad I watch the old episodes from 1973 and there are so few people I recognize in the picture half of them are kids. I love that Lydia and Jim are in the center as they should be, but am not fan of the mustache. How long did Jim have it?

I like them well enough, do I think they should be together for decades like Karl and Susan, certainly not, but they are a bit of fluff and conflict.

Angus is the guy in Edward Skylover's avatar, yes he is gone. He was on an Aussie talent show as a singer. Yes Nate was Aaron's boyfriend. I would like it if they went there with Dee. I like Terese, but not this story with Piper.

They gave GL the award later on, they wrote about it in the New York Times.

The death of Rachel was planned from the start, so that didn't bother me. With Nathan I wonder if it was the he's been on a year, and that's it. James tried to tell Nathan, and he didn't believe it. Too bad people still don't know. I actually found Mac and Lisa entertaining and loved the part with Cameron. The problem was that they should have had Lisa discover everything that Mac has done wrong, and then destroy him. That would have returned her to HBIC instead of just weak.

I'm not surprised that Peter Capaldi is leaving. I am glad though they allowed him to announce it before rumours of a successor began.

NBA did you see the Ed and Anna story? When it comes to stories on TD I wish they would all be deeper, but perhaps that's just me.

No you aren't dreaming, it was a scene with Mike. He was bouncing a ball, and said how he was from Madison.

I was okay with Jade dying because of how she died. It wasn't a silly car crash or something of that nature. Celine's death was horrid, Cameron is an awful human being and needs to be stopped already. Yes Nico is finally toast, but Cameron needs to go too. Joanne is also away, and considering the corner she was written into there was nowhere else to go. Made me happy to see OB in the credits for a guest visit.

Trudy, would have been the only Bauer that they could have brought back and created new family etc around her, as she disappeared decades earlier. Some imaginary Bauer would be annoying.

I'd like to read that article you referenced vetsoapfan with Peter Simon about the chaos at GL under Kobe.

Sherry Stringfield's departure in 1992 was announced in SOD, before the Blake and Ross story really started. They just felt it was going so swimmingly that they kept her on longer and delayed her leaving town. Totally agree that Maureen Garrett is underrated or at least someone that isn't as known to people who didn't watch GL. What everyone has said about Bert's death being a year after Charita passed. It did feel like they had to do it, and that episode felt strange. Rick being all I'm going to kick drugs because of Grandma, or whatever, what? That said at least MOL had a legitimate on screen relationship with Charita.

Bit of a spoiler, they didn't know what to do with Althea after Penny left again. Marland was rearranging the show based on the two major families: the Powers and the Aldriches, and Althea didn't have a spot in that reorganization according to this one magazine I have from that era. (One of the few I have pre-1980.)

Thanks robbwolff BTW do we know what Potter was doing from the time he was gone from TD and before he was executive producer at GL? I could find sympathy with Mona even if she thinks Steve is way too perfect. Carolee's behavior from the outside looking in, would be questionable. Would you really trust a woman who left your child for someone else especially if you aren't comprehending that he wasn't always faithful to her.