Sapounopera

The idea behind the opening is not that bad. If only the colors were a little bit more vibrant. 

RIP Bridget Dobson. Reading about her relationship with her parents helps me understand why she did such an amazing job writing for Mason.

I also like the Ritournelle. More than any intro that followed it. It's the show's logo that had no personality and creativity. 

Josh Griffith thinks that he is writing old people's Melrose Place. 

Crisis after crisis with no real impact and emotion. 

On 12/30/2023 at 11:52 PM, Paul Raven said:

That wildfire story is odd. Why not say Mattie was injured and needed rehab? Just being upset about a teacher hardly seems reason to stay away for months.

a) Mattie started the fire.
b) She was in love with the teacher.
c) She is a psycho.
d) None of the above.
e) All of the above.
f) Another Josh Griffith random idea that means nothing.

1 hour ago, robbwolff said:

We may have also actually seen the return of Hope Bauer, which Jeff Ryder previewed in SOD.

I always thought that Arianne Munker (Christine) was originally cast as Hope (she even looked like Elvera Russell) and that an altered version of the Valere story would involve her. 

On 12/20/2023 at 11:58 PM, OpportunisticSlut said:

Dark periods in shows where storylines turned sinister, scary and disturbed. Storylines that seemed like they came from a true crime-blog.

• Bold

Let me start with The Angela impostor storyline.

How can you go darker than this?

Disturbed, disfigured impostor plans the Forrester's demise.

When I was a child I used to have nightmares from her scenes with the veil.

I LOVED this story and it was Bill Bell at his finest. And darkest. It began slowly and slowly build up to this obsessed, full of hatred demented woman, who wanted to destroy Stephanie.

Something truly amazing is that Bill Bell HINTED about this story for 300 episodes, before even starting it. 

 

 

This. The Angela/Deveney story was so dark and scary. There were hints in the very early episodes when Stephanie would be caught lying about visiting her sister Lorraine (later Pam). 

I almost cried with Liz and her son's scene. The sad part is that I cannot think of another soap character acting like a real mother in such a scene.
Does the show understand how valuable BH is is?

This is a really touching and sweet moment. Not some Ryan Murphy parallel universe stupidity. Bravo. 

28 minutes ago, divinemotion said:

Guys why are you putting Eric to this high standart just now... when this man is practically dying...  Even if he was a cheater... the lack of empathy for someone dying even if it is only on screen... is mind boggling. Also... practically 99.9999 percent of characters in soap operas... if they are on the show for longer than 2-5 years... CHEAT. It is part of the storyline bible. So it is strange that some of you are saying how bad Eric was because cheating and this and that... when Bold is the epitome of cheating scandals and sex scandals show. So we should not have empathy or care about anyone passing then.

Eric is first and foremost and iconic character. Believe it or not, he is. In my country girls would put posters of John as Eric on their walls. So for me it is different perception probably to now see everyone just asking him to die already or that the character is so so bad... that we should not even care. It is an old man dying. I care. That is why I wanted a better storyline for him.

The show chose to give Eric a story about dying. A rather bad story. People react to the story. It is not as though viewers have been demanding for years that the character gets killed off. 

I can't take Eric seriously as the Forrester patriarch. I saw him as Stephanie's husband and the father of her children. He was never a strong man, he was never a wise man and all his stories involved inappropriate affairs. The character lost any charm he had left when they started giving him these "funny", sleazy, "sexy" scenes. 

However, if John McCook leaves the show, we are left with Brooke in a sea of random people and a(n even more) poorly structured Forrester family. 

9 hours ago, lucaslesann23 said:

I fear @Paul Ravenmay be right and we get Jordan in one of these

Eve Howard did it first. 

Y&R
Jennifer Foster, Jill's niece from hell. The perfect candidate for an All About Eve story at Jabot in the 90s.

Her brother Chuck, a a young doctor. Jill could have used a family, but Bill Bell had erased the 70s from the show's history.

Brooks Prentiss, a handsome young businessman in the 90s. By that time the show was way too obsessed with the Newmans though. Wasn't Brooks also related to Jill? I keep forgetting who his mother was. Lori or Leslie?

On 10/19/2023 at 5:33 PM, Donna L. Bridges said:

Robin Wright IS Kelly to me. 

That's what I thought back then as well. Now when I am watching random episodes I realize that Carrington is the best thing that could have happened to Kelly. She brought the character in the 90s era just like Kimberly Simms did with Mindy on GL. 

I adored Lane, I was in love with his Mason, both I thought that both recasts did the part justice and worked well with NLG, Robin Mattson and the Capwell crowd.

Now Ava Lazar on the other hand.. she will always be my Santana.

Y&R's cast anniversaries have become a weekly thing now? Like GL's Inside The Light? They are constantly honoring someone and use it as an excuse to write something interesting.
Instead of doing specials for everyone all the time, they should try working and focusing on some new people. 

Loved reading the synopsis, thank you for sharing it @dc11786!

1981 Search seems far more interesting before becoming an adventure soap.

What is so shocking and dramatic about Luna being Finn's cousin?

This person is not Mamie, but I like watching her.

22 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

For all we know they could have already recast.

Donnatella knows best.

What I understand from all this is that Rauch and Lemay sabotaged their own show by overestimating Wyndham's (or Mac and Rachel's?) star power and getting rid of major parts of AW's fabric. I can't know why they did this, but they messed things up. 

4 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Point taken! I predict there's gonna be another Molly & we're gonna like this one. What the heck are we gonna call her, though? PneuMolly? NextMolly? GotItRightFinallyMolly? ThanksFrankMolly? Yeah, I will have to eat my hat if we call her Haley. I know! Summer is finally done, right? FallMolly! 

How about TodaysMolly?

31 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I was joking.

 

That said...I wouldn't put it past him. 

 

I know. 
Neither would I. 

On 9/9/2023 at 4:39 PM, Donna L. Bridges said:

I didn't really intend to stir up the whole shebang "Haley Pullos irresponsible at 24" debate. All I really meant to do was introduce the fact that NLG is still advocating for them to let her come back. The only other thing I will note is that Tyler Christopher has not been given a second chance, at least not so far. 

Advocating is NLG's life Donnatella. 
 

On 9/13/2023 at 12:25 AM, Taoboi said:

Another Sheila baby?

Please, NO.

So Ginge is B&B's Cricket?

18 hours ago, Aragorn said:

Andrea the surrogate has had the procedure done and might be pregnant. What will happen next?

1. Andrea dies in a car crash. Molly and TJ turn to Kristina to be the surrogate.

2. The procedure fails. Molly and TJ turn to Kristina to be the surrogate.

3. Andrea has TJ's baby. Tj falls in love with Andrea and breaks up with Molly.

4. Andrea backs out of the agreement and wants to keep the baby. Molly and TJ fight her in court.

5. Andrea has the baby and give it Molly and TJ without problems.

What about psycho Andrea? 

Sorry, but I can't buy this Nicolas as a sad prince.