Angela

I wonder if they'll fire whatshername due to this, if it's true. I'm not sure that Bravo carries that no-physical-violence policy.

My problem with Kenya in Kenya versus whatshername debacle is that Kenya has no room to be talking while having recently had a supposedly gay boyfriend and currently having a fake boyfriend.

Not gonna lie, I kind of hope Kenya and Brandi team up and do really well on CA.

I'm surprised.

I hope so, too, but I can see CA kind of encouraging the feud production-wise for ratings. I just want to see all the women do well in general and not fall victim to cattiness.

Any idea when the season debuts?

I just love RHONY Kristen. I can't wait to see her with Yolanda and Brandi.

I haven't watched RHONY since the crazy Kelly seasons... I'm going to try to get back into it.

While I think Kim's issues run deeper than that she keeps bringing it up and basing it off that so we will run with it. They RSVP'd no. That's it. Don't and over.

I'm watching the reunion, again, and I think Kim is actually discussing this not so irrationally. It's kind of like Brandi once said, Lisa kind of puts a spell on you where you can't see straight and you want to believe in rainbows but it really isn't rainbows if you take a good look. I think we all have a friend or family member like that. They can make you feel like the center of the world in that one moment they're paying attention to you then they'll drop you like a basketball just because they can. You want to believe their is something more than surface because of that moment(s) but you just don't know. I think all these women feel that way about Lisa. Like Lisa once said, where there's smoke there is probably fire. I don't dislike Lisa but I do think there are things she should probably take a look at about herself that she isn't quite looking at.

I think Kim really dislikes Lisa because she feels Lisa looks down on her which Lisa obviously has for a while (going back to probably Season one). I think the graduation just somehow broke the camels back for Kim. It's a bit of an irrational focus but I think it's coming from just being sick of the way she feels Lisa disrespects her. Out of all the girls, the "Hilton" sisters have the most solid televised reasons to dislike Lisa.

Agreed

Yep. The rather extreme canonizations and the rather extreme villainizations.

Moving on to RHO-Heavy Celebrity Apprentice...

Kenya started following RHONY's Kristen on Twitter after "Us" reported that she treated Kristen poorly at the Pie thing on Monday. Meh, I don't know if I believe "Us" as they were just quoting one "eyewitness."

So it's Olympic Gold Medalist (representing the Winter Games) Jamie Anderson rounding out the Girls team...

You really think you know these people on a real level. This is a heavily produced reality tv show. I find it fascinating how well you think you know Brandi's friends and the nature of their relationship and private conversations with her based on the 3 moments you've seen of them on the show.

This is a big part of the reason I'm Team Brandi, too many Lisa fans are like that. It's like soap opera super-couple ego syndrome.

Lisa fans are so OTT bothered. Brandi isn't fond of Lisa so that means she eats children and blows Satan every night. Yeah, sure, okay.

Moving on to Joyce. Brandi's initial dislike of Joyce was irrational and gurl was being a f--ked up b--ch about it. Yes, but lets not go around re-writing history and acting like Brandi was just blowing up at random people for no reason in prior seasons. I do get why Brandi hates Joyce now due to the taping order of some of this stuff. As for Brandi being shady about Joyce in the talking heads ... so what? They're all shady, even the pals, and even Joyce.

Painting Yolanda's dislike of Lisa as somehow Brandi's fault makes me ROFL. Yolanda, as well as Kyle and Kim, disliked Lisa way before Brandi did. Brandi was the one choosing a side (to be with or against Lisa) here, not Yolanda.

Nene only used the Trump line with Sheree.

For real? It has felt like she's thrown his name out quite a bit. "Trump money" maybe was isolated to Sheree.

I would not sleep on Kenya. She and Viv share a lot of the same friends as they both were out in Hollywood competing for the same roles. I think a good strategy of Kenya's though would be for her to reach out to Lisa and Joyce, both who have tons of money and despise Brandi, and get them in her corner.

Well, right now, what helps Kenya also helps Brandi and vice-versa (they're on the same team, for now), so go ahead and do that Kenya!

ETA:

Oh, while I'm still iffy on Kenya having any solid Hollywood connections, she probably does have Marlo who seems to be rolling in it and who would probably like to see Kenya outlast Nene too.

I'm trying to decipher which team won, that is if the first firing was even taped tonight. Brandi's pretty happy of the after midnight Tweeters.

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Brandi looks overwhelmed and I don't know that she has many connections to pull through and give her money on these challenges.

On paper, the only people with strong money connections on the girls team are Keisha (I'm guessing she's leading the first challenge because she was thanking Chef Roble for his recipe help) and Vivica. There's an 8th member but I don't know who that is yet. Shawn and Leeza could have some moderate or weaker connections. Kate, Brandi and Kenya, I assume would have the weakest connections. In terms of RH connections I could see Kim, Kyle, Yolanda (who has Foster money) and Carlton throwing a dime Brandi's way. I could see Kandi and maybe even Cynthia throwing a dime Kenya's way.

Lest we forget, Kenya sort of has a Trump inside connection - Miss USA and all. Did Trump own the pageant back in 1993? Did Nene ever try her Trump money line on Kenya?

Olivia Oshry ‏@OliviaOshry 3h

"Met my spirit animal, the one & only @BrandiGlanville after she got pied in the face by @KenyaMoore! Love"

LOL, nooo.... yes! Hopefully they call a game show truce after this. The CA girls always end up fu--ing themselves with the cattiness.

OK so the girls team is definitely:

Vivica A. Fox (Film Actress)

Leeza Gibbons (Talk Show Host)

Brandi Glanville (Reality Personality; RHOBH)

Kate Gosselin (Reality Personality; Kate Plus Eight)

Shawn Johnson (Athlete, Reality Personality; Gymnastics, DWTS Contestant)

Kenya Moore (Reality Personality; RHOA)

Keisha Knight Pullum (Television Actress; Rudy, The Cosby Show)

Somebody is missing? No?

I thought this was interesting. Apparently Carlton and Allison Dubois are friendly (or were, I don't know)?

Adrienne doesn't look as severe as she does in that picture all the time, lol, but, yeah, it was definitely Adrienne shade.

I was looking at old RHOBH pictures trying to see if IA with Andy's thoughts on Brandi's cheeks. They're definitely more angled. it could be the fillers, or maybe not.

Looking at old pictures reminded me of how much I enjoyed the show prior to this season.

They need to script their reunion for next season. Sniffle...

Eric's quotation of the remark was definitely on the mark. Woman makes me do a spit take at least once an episode, lol.

What did Brandi say?

They were talking about plastic surgery, Brandi mentioned that she does fillers and some days she's like WTF about them but she said she'd never go as far as that woman that was fired last season.

That's who I thought it was as well but now it's obviously Adrienne! She's so easy to forget.

Why "obviously"? (ETA: She is pretty easy to forget). I lean towards Adrienne because they did a shot of Lisa appearing to enjoy the shade and we know A/L had issues.

Adrienne I think.

My first thought was Taylor, but definitely could be Adrienne.

Andy's never treated Lisa well at reunions. Maybe she annoys him, too? IDK.

The men of Celebrity Apprentice....

No group photo of the women up yet, I think.

Lorenzo had really f'ed up his face. Geez.

Brandi and Kenya are definitely on the season as they're inviting Tweeters to come out to buy pie at Union Square. I'm somewhat close to the mens location for pie-selling tomorrow but it's a little too far and little too cold for me to stroll down there for lunch. Hopefully the girls get to choose and choose a lunch-time location near Columbus Circle/Central Park before long.

Does it really matter if Brandi was invited or not? However I find it hard to believe that if she were invited she wouldn't have shown up....

Agree ... and agree. I really don't think her publishers would have wanted her to turn down a press-op like that either. But whatevs...

Gaga just released the video for one of her songs (G.U.Y) off of Art Flop.

Two cameos from the RHOBH ladies (minus Brandi and Boyce), I believe. It's an 11 minute video (but 5 minutes of that are credits). This is the second cameo and it's just Kyle, Lisa and the Gigster with Gaga and guns blazing ... literally. The first part was the ladies lip-synching to Venus in pink dresses.

Except that Brandi went very far with some of the personal attacks, and Ken as well as Lisa told her to cease and desist with the bankruptcy crap.

I don't agree with this.

Brandi comes off like a bit of a cry baby whining about "mommy/mommy dearest," don't get me wrong, but I haven't really seen "too far".

Brandi said Lisa and/or Ken filed for bankruptcy and may have lived in a less rich part of town. She pointed that out not to ruin Lisa's life but to point out Lisa is afraid of anything less than the perception of perfection. Lisa made a bigger deal of those things than Brandi, ultimately. She could have denied it and let the truth stand for itself.

Lisa has been dragging Brandi personally up, down and sideways for lying about something I now feel absolutely certain Lisa is lying about (tabloid).

Ken is a b*tch for laying 3-4 fingers on Yolanda? In what alternate universe?

In the same universe that Paul and Mauricio were called bitches and worst for doing even less.

No problem. I am amazed at how well Atlanta is doing. I hope they trend towards and surpass the 5 million mark for the reunion.

I'm not shocked but it is quite amazing how much better they do than almost all other programming on Bravo. They were kicking butt last season which was probably one of the weaker seasons they've had. RHOA has been wildly entertaining this season in a harmless way. Almost all the girls - and some of the "guys" (looks at Peterita) - are bringing it in terms of bringing shade, tea, drama (contrived and natural), there's mama Joyce bringing a healthy dose of ghetto. Except for Phaedra with Kenya, all the girls are not taking s--t to heart hardcore - at least not during the taping of the season (so far). That's key to making the experience enjoyable for me as a viewer. It's why I used to love RHOBH most before this season.

Did anyone catch DWTS? Nene was actually pretty good &

I watched most of it but not closely. Nene was okay. I got to say this chick is actually a really good entertainment personality. Sometimes I want to strangle her, sometimes I think she's just great adorable, harmless fun.

O.T. Candice Cameron was amazing (and she's grown up into a beautiful woman) but her personality sort of reminds me of annoying Nene. Maybe that will change as the season progresses. "Winnie" versus "DJ"? Love that. Pretty good casting this season. Those gold-medal winning ice dancers are good and I'm sure they are also good for ratings but that's such an unfair advantage. They can dance eloquently on ice with a thin blade. They're not going to have much trouble dancing the same way in flats with heels.

RHOA

Only caught the last 30 minutes. I have to say the interaction between Apollo and Kenya was inappropriate from both sides considering the way they both know Phaedra feels about that. They were flirting. Apollo is definitely doing more of it - checking Kenya out, etc. It's clear Kenya was right about the texts.

Walking into a party and not saying hi to anyone them I think 99% of rational people would say that's constitutes not caring....

Walking out of a party without so much as saying a good bye would in more people's minds signify that she's over it.....

Lisa handled that party like she just didn't care? Uhm, no. She was on Kyle like she cared until it became obvious Kyle wasn't going to bite with believing her. She was talking with Brandi like she cared for her to see where she's coming from with Scheana. She was getting antsy and super defensive when the tabloid was brought up again in a group ... like she cared. Uhm, that was not anything close to cool as a cucumber. I'm not used to seeing Lisa trying so hard actually. I was surprised.

Lisa isn't going anywhere unless Bravo wants her gone from RH. She's close to a non-entity on VR (think Nene on Glee). I'm sure she doesn't love that most of her co-workers have an issues with her. Nobody would like that. She'll get over it.

Celebrity Apprentice

I can't wait for the first appearance of Kenya's invisible prince circa a check she gives a carrier to deliver with his signature.

I think Brandi and Kenya both have potential in terms of fundraising. Kyle, Kim and Yolanda are still okay with Brandi, I think. Additionally, she has some rich friends outside of the franchise. Kenya might still have some connections in Hollywood. I can see Kandi dropping some money for her charity if she asks nicely.

Kenya and Brandi "together" might be an issue though. Kenya is all like dumb bimbo about Brandi and Brandi is all like skanky, ashy ho about Kenya.

Yep. She called her "ashy face," which caused a ruckus on Twitter (Brandi got dragged that night), and called Kenya a man. She later went on to say in a magazine that she fears Kenya, which she should. Kenya will gleefully mind f*ck Brandi WAY worse than what she feels Lisa did.

Well that probably shouldn't scare Brandi in any way - the Lisa or worst than Lisa comparison. Most of that was Brandi being a bit over sensitive about friendship.

Kenya is also the weakest in face to face battle of the Atlanta ladies. Unless CA gives the girl a lot of time to script and plot take downs BTS with assistance, she's basically a pussycat that tries too hard to a fault with shade throwing.

Jenny McCarthy was the one who inferred Kenya looked like a man on that WWHL. I think Nene, Kenya and Marlo all have a bit of a masculine beauty.

Cat, JP - interesting post on the RHOBH.

I have to say with Monday's episode any thought I had that I was reacting to Brandi and Lisa's situation mostly due to not liking groupthink disappeared. Lisa was going pretty much sideways, over and a bit under to defend Scheana's position in everything and that was telling. The fact that Lisa was not condescending with Brandi (as she was with Kyle after she had wronged her) and did not call her out on lying in the private conversation was equally telling. Somebody telling me to hush up so they could tell me why I'm a liar and why I'm suckage as a friend would have had me quadrupling up on the lying point IF it really was a lie.

I think Ken is a great husband - any other husband acting like he is I would have pretty much hated already - but him continuing to act like a rabid dog about what Lisa did and didn't do when I'm fairly sure he doesn't really know what she did or didn't do ... it's obnoxious. By being so rabid about it, he's making what Lisa most likely did (half-jokingly) seem like a bigger deal than it is. The magazine thing is not much different than Lisa throwing the Mauricio could be cheating shade at the lunch (where there's oil there's fire) and at her home with Ken (Ken calling the story junk and Lisa strongly disagreeing). Ken and Lisa and even some fans are acting like Lisa didn't do those things despite the fact that it aired on television.

Ken was in the right in the last Yolanda fight. Yolanda, Kyle, Brandi and Kim (?) shouldn't have interrupted the men. I can understand why they did to a point - residual anger at Ken for being so rabid.

Cat, is it confirmed those Yolanda/Lisa scenes happened? Like you said, it doesn't change but still... It's in keeping with her personality for Yolanda to act like she's okay with you but not really be okay with you. I don't think Yolanda's dislike of Lisa is irrational although her real friend vs. Hollywood friend thing is OTT. She doesn't think Lisa is a good friend and she doesn't sugar coat it.

Nene just posted a link to her personal blog where she's basically bragging on herself about being the most accomplished black woman that ever lived. I'm over exaggerating BUT so is she. I can't wait until her over inflated head REALLY comes out of kissing that big ole a--.

We won't really know for sure whether or not Lisa was going to bring up "the lie." If you recall, Lisa was about to start talking to Brandi about what she was hurt about, and Brandi conveniently interrupted Lisa and stated that it wasn't about Lisa, but about Brandi and her hurt feelings.

Somebody is lying on me and they tell me to "hush" so I hush on demand and act like I haven't really been wronged and like I want to make up with the person? Yeah. Nah. No. Sorry. No. If some bitch totally made up something about me to drag me and then was getting all up on my grill about how I wronged her, I'd be treating her like Lisa treated Kyle for so long. Lisa was not treating Brandi like that pretty much at all.