Everything posted by P.J.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
My understanding is that Tom was driving when the accident (that killed Chuckie) occurred. Michael Shea was already dead by that time. Oddly, Chuckie's death isn't mentioned at all in ATWT's history book, the only time frame I can put on it is early '70's , with the last actor to play the part (probably) was David Perkins. The last mention of Chuckie is about Don becoming buddies with the boy during his dalliance with Lisa.
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I think the analysis sounds negative. I'm sure if the same stories were airing today, they'd be pulled apart to the nth degree too. It doesn't make Marland less of a complete, multi-layered storyteller. I'm not saying the criticisms aren't accurate or valid, but it's so hard to recapture the details of the stories so many years later. What I know is that families interacted, every action had consequences, and people had honest motivations, even if they were the stupidest decisions of their lives. I may see Marland through rose-colored glasses, but he is definitely the gold standard. The idiots now are simply gold-colored [!@#$%^&*]. Re: Carolyn Crawford....it's the one time (or the most obvious) Marland rewrote one of his stories to suit his fan base, and it was a huge mistake. Rex Smith was hardly Olivier...and if I remember correctly, wasn't there a writer's strike that played into it somehow?
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The thing about Barbara and Frannie was that Frannie had gotten on her moral high horse about Babs' ONS with Darryl, resulting in Jennifer, and lying to Frannie about it when Frannie was getting close to Darryl. At the point it happened, it wasn't any of Frannie's business, and she herself had developed feelings for Darryl while he was married to Caroline.
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Pretty sure Krueger simply went to jail off-screen. Ellie was my least favorite Snyder. I think any censure she got from her family was over the fact she lied to Kirk about the abortion. I think this was after Lily's miscarriage (and lord knows Lily's feelings were always to be put first by everyone she knew...) and while Iva was raising two toddlers practically on her own. Ellie looked like a selfish slacker.
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It was like '81, '82. So it's towards the end of Mike's run, but I think he was still doing the soap. OMG---Don wasn't the original Mike? It was very weird seeing him in more casual '80's wear instead of his ever-present suit-and-tie. My understanding is that it's considered a "cult classic". TCM occassionally runs it as an "underground" movie. It was introduced by Jane Powell, which was weird too.
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ALL: They Almost Became
Per SOD (7/5/11) Bryan Cranston auditioned for the role of Tom Hughes in the late '80's which went to Scott Holmes.
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Yeah...I think in some ways, it was always apparent there was a hole in Iva's life having to give Lily away. Even though the pregnancy was written in way before they would have known JH was leaving, with Marland's style of writing, her deception never would have been rewarded by getting to raise Aaron. I don't thinkk JH was on long after he got back custody. But yeah, not only did I hate the way Holden treated Iva, I hated hearing he had just dumped Aaron off at Julie and Caleb's. I really don't think Julie had ever wanted the kid.
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Well, you can't have everyone have a tie to the Hughes family---you end up with B&B, which is incestuous to the point of ridiculousness. The important point is that there's balance. There were certainly other characters besides Hughes' that could have been brought back. Why they never recast Scott Eldredge (who's still related to a Hughes) is beyond me.
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Yeah, it ended his relationship with her. Which at the time struck me as really ironic, since it was about the only lie she ever told on the show. My guess is their relationship lasted a year, give or take. I think she was even pregnant with their son MJ when he broke it off. It was a really odd hook up---he'd been with her mother, and married to her worst enemy. Marland usually stuck to the "opposites attract" theory, and in some ways John and Iva were too alike---both kind of morose sticks in the mud. By the time everything came out, I was definitely on Iva's side. Here she had sacrificed to raise this child who Julie really couldn't (saving Holden from a lot of misery, given his new marriage to Lily and the strain the family was already under given the Holden/Caleb feud after the ONS with Julie). It related to her issues so beautifully---having been adopted herself and not being able to raise Lily. Iva had always been the one who got kicked in the teeth---she got shipped to Henry and Elizabeth's when money was tight, to get raped by Josh. She has to co-mother Lily with a woman who hates her. She has to "accept" her family forgiving Josh, to points (like her being in Meg's wedding party) that it's ridiculous. She loses Kirk to Ellie. Even Emma was very upset with her when the relationship with John came about. So she spends a year or more rearranging her life to care for Holden's kid, loses John, at one point is raising two toddlers on her own, and when it all hits the fan, Holden basically walks in, demands his kid and she's just expected to hand him over without a word. (At the time, Holden was kind of an emotionless SOB, thanks to losing half his brain...) I don't know if it was a stylistic change...but for a while, Marland's writing was really dark and heavy. You had the Crawford murder going on, Angel's incest story playing out, Lily got blown up, Hal was supposedly shot dead undercover, James was running around town....the bad thing (at times) about Marland was he wouldn't arbitrarily "happy things up" if it didn't fit the characters or story. He didn't really do camp, other than with Shannon. There was comedy, but it came in moments, not entire arcs.
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I think the thing about the Parker/Faith scene was simply to give them some kind of future direction. I thought it was sweet, and was disappointed it wasn't part of the last episode. Of course, they could have spent the entire week tying up loose ends...but at least Parker was a legacy character. It's the time spent assuring us Janet would be "happy" that bugged the crap out of me. I FLOVED Kirk and Iva. I don't know what the fascination was with Kirk and Ellie. Other than the obvious---Ellie was a hot piece of ass, where Iva was a cold fish. It's really sad, 'cause that was really the only romance Iva got on the show.
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That's Chris Durham. He was one of the Matt McCandlesses on Capitol, and he was the first Silas Whitman (the smarmy congressman Molly was having an affair with) that sabotaged her car when Jack showed up in NY after he took off after Brad's death. I don't remember any significant story when he played Glenn's brother. And thanks for posting that interview with Ben. Sigh...that cover was the first time I was really aware of soap mags. I was amazed to see Hal and Barbara on the cover. Little did I know ATWT barely got any soap coverage.
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I can't believe anyone would begrudge the actors submitting themselves for their work. If hacks like Vanessa Marcil or Drew Tyler Bell can win for a couple of months' work, certainly being on a canceled show shouldn't disqualify Maura, Michael or Colleen from contention. And honestly, having suffered through six months of Y&R and it's bland, robotic "suspense" delivered (mostly) by actors who seem to be on autopilot, I'm even more impressed by our actors who took crap and made it seem urgent.