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    Guiding Light discussion thread

    in DTS: Cancelled Soaps

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    8 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

    Did Irizarry and Beecroft have many scenes together?  I'm surprised they'd have much conflict otherwise.

    Tony hired Lujack to work at Company. Here’s one of their scenes.

     

    1 minute ago, kalbir said:

    Wasn't it rumored that GA and VI had beef BITD? Look at the timelines. Both depart in 1985. GA returns 1987 to February 1991. VI returns July 1991 to February 1996. GA returns April 1996. 

    VI mentioned that he and the person later got to a good place but I’ve heard a lot of stuff about GA’s behavior.

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    YR return

    in Discuss Previews and Spoilers

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    16 hours ago, Khan said:

    I realize that Nikki was pushed this time off the wagon.  Nevertheless, I'm just bored with watching MTS play drunk.  To me, it has a real "been there, done that" feeling to it.

    Yeah, JG loves dancing to the golden oldies. The rushing through the story doesn’t help. I admire CZ’s promotion of the story (saw her Locher Room interview), but it’s most certainly NOT classic soap beyond the superficial. The pivot from Newman CEO swaps to this gave me whiplash.

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    ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?

    in Discuss The Soaps

    Posted · Edited by Faulkner

    1 hour ago, lucaslesann23 said:

    As a male soap watcher, what's the difference between writing a man feeling something and "Man pain?" I ask this sincerely lol. When Bill wrote a story focused on a guy, how did he make it not man pain? 

     

    1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

    To me it equates to when the shows stoped writing the women as complexly, and turned all the depth and attention to the men, and only the ones that were edgy.

    Yep, it’s usually some male villain or antihero. Bill Bell did a good job in making Victor, Jack, and Paul feel like real, complex men with lifelong psychological baggage, but his writing for them rarely felt indulgent. Bell didn’t always signal to us how “broken” Jack or Victor were or how their behavior stemmed from an effed-up childhood or simply the desperate need for wuv.  But when it came to later characters like Kevin Fisher, who did some pretty heinous stuff, they seemed to go the overboard with the trauma porn to make female viewers sympathize with them. Plus, they had these ‘charismatic’ actors like Greg Rikaart and Billy Miller they used for clout and Emmys. I think a lot of it was influenced by what GH was doing to capture younger viewers and the trend of having ‘sexy’ antiheroes (a la Tony Soprano and Don Draper) that really took off in the 2000s.

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    Married to Medicine

    in NBC | Peacock

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    23 hours ago, Cat said:

    Anyone watching the current season of M2M? I am hooked! Usually M2M is a slow burn in the early episodes, but they hit the ground running this season by jumping straight into the engagement of throwback Dr. Greg and his new fiancée. 

    Sweet Tea is not at all what I expected from a M2M cast member. Facially, she looks like she could be Toya's country cousin (Toya BTW seems like she's had a little face work done, but good work). Lateasha is proudly country and I like that. She's a little different from reality newbies on these shows -- first of all, spilling that she went after Greg in his DMs because she has an older-dude fetish. That one is going to bite her in the ass come reunion. Heavenly has already sized her up like a shark, but props to Lateasha for leaving her off the wedding guest list as payback. Heavenly has been crowing about how she got into the wedding anyway, but since she probably had to bribe an attendant to get that cameratime, I'd say its a hollow victory. While I'm not sure Sweet Tea is a GREAT cast member, I do think she adds an interesting dynamic. She's a fish out of water, she's not pretending that she's loaded, and she's just trying to fit in. She's not quite a pushover either, but there is a power imbalance between her and other cast members. 

    Quad was bragging some months ago about how Bravo reached out to come back and 'save' the show, but I'm not quite sure that's true. It's fun to see her trying to rile up the group, but she very much feels on the outside. I echo Toya's distrust of her and always have.

    I'm not sure slippery Porsha fits. A lot of her shtick is so staged and contrived. I hope M2M doesn't tip too far in that direction. The other women seem to be clocking that and her shady background in a good-humoured way.

    Curtis only showed up for the bachelor party? Sometimes I think he and Jackie are fully living separate lives.

    M2M really is one of the best shows on Bravo IMO.

     

    1 hour ago, Gray Bunny said:

    I'm watching and loving it. I agree this is the best Bravo show, outshining the Housewives for sure. I like how through all the comings and goings, you still have the core cast and in their 10th season, are still fun and interesting, the friendships are real, and it doesn't come off forced. 

    Yeah, Sweet Tea sure doesn't fit the mold, but she's kind of fun to watch in a trainwreck kind of way, what with her bridezilla antics, blowing up at her own sister, and just being a little clueless in general. 

    Also agree about Porsha. She's like a throwback to Housewives days gone by, when we actually believed her schtick was real and her quips weren't force-fed to her by producers to look witty and clever. I hope the likes of Heavenly, Simone and Jackie continue to side-eye her and call it out. M2M comes off as less edited, aside from the usual reality TV fare like Quad's perfectly producer-timed entrance to the bachelorette party. 

    Overall, I love the couple dynamics on this show, particularly Dr. Simone & Cecil, and Toya & Eugene.  And god bless Dr. Damon for being the yang to Dr. Heavenly's yin. LOL. 

    Sunday nights with M2M and Potomac is currently my favorite TV night. 

    Side Note:  Any tea as to why Dr. Contessa left the series? Was it her own choice? 

    “Don’t let me whip your ass like your mama should’ve!” I know she gets hate, but Heavenly is one of the funniest Bravolebrities to me.

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    ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?

    in Discuss The Soaps

    Posted · Edited by Faulkner

    30 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

    Something very important and not mentioned yet is that Bill Bell understood the daytime audience. He wrote these shows mostly from the women’s perspective. He didn’t forget his audience was mostly made up of women.

    When I was an avid watcher of Y&R, all these women (and probably more) were on the show at virtually the same time. Katherine, Jill, Nina, Ashley, Nikki, Leanna, Sheila, Lauren, Tracy, Drucilla, Olivia, Cassandra, Cricket…I’m sure I am missing someone. Closely followed by Victoria and Sharon. These are all complex, individual women with their own points of view, their own vulnerabilities, established backgrounds, motivations and storylines. Some of them never crossed paths.

    And plenty of sex appeal- Malcolm, Ryan, Paul, Brad, etc. The men were complex too- but the women outnumbered them and were often the best parts. 

    On DAYS he had Laura, Julie, Marie, Susan, etc. All complex and vital characters, and always front and center.

    The drift toward man pain—exemplified by the sob stories of the Baldwin-Fisher brothers, Adam Newman, and Billy Abbott—is one of the most dreadful things to happen to Y&R. 

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    ALL: What about Bill Bell's writing made his stories and shows the top standard?

    in Discuss The Soaps

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    1 hour ago, Khan said:

    I've always believed that the best way to know how to write/produce/direct a show like Y&R was to go back and watch the kind of glossy melodramas that the studios made in the '50's: not just the films that Douglas Sirk made for Universal - "All That Heaven Allows," "Magnificent Obsession," "Written on the Wind" - but also films like "Peyton Place," "Love is a Many Splendored Thing," "Cash McCall," "Executive Suite," "The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit," "A Summer Place," etc.

    I wish more soap writers in general familiarized themselves with these films. But it’s mandatory for Y&R (and lots of Josef von Sternberg, Hitchcock, and film noir for the darker shifts and villain stories).

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    Y&R: ATWT alum joins

    in Discuss Previews and Spoilers

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    14 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

    I’m not mad at the idea of all this but the pacing is absolutely horrendous. They ran thru what should have been 3-6 months worth of story in a couple weeks and missed so many beats. We should have seen Claire/Eve inserting herself into Victoria’s life not just Nicki’s. Wrecking things for her then feeling guilty and yearning for the family connection. Aunt Jordan could have come to town and befriended Nicki for weeks slowly gaslighting and tricking her into drinking. Like come on basic soap pacing.
     

    Watching the big reveal felt so unearned and rushed. I hate that JG will probably be the shows last idiot in charge because he just always fumbles the ball in the least interesting way.

    Exactly. It’s not hitting the way it’s supposed to hit. 3-6 months minimum was needed for this. It does feel thrown together like a “shape up or ship out” moment for JG. Then again, Cameron Kirsten’s return was easily slapdash.

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    Doctor Who

    in Primetime

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    5 minutes ago, Vee said:

    FWIW, to @Faulkner and @DRW50 who are the only people I definitely know follow this thread: I believe The Star Beast goes live on Disney+ in a little over an hour, specifically 10:30 AM West Coast time/1:30 East, simultaneous with the UK. I probably won't be watching it til later tonight, as it doesn't feel appropriate to watch the premiere in blazing California daylight. I hate LA. Cheers.

    Oh thanks for the head’s up!

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