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EricMontreal22

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  1. By 1992, when I started paying attention to the soap ratings, AMC was pretty consistently number 2--I believe this stayed until 95 or so.
  2. Yep, when McTavish's final run at AMC really became awful. It barely even seemed like she or any other HW was in charge. Not because the writing was bad-and it was--but McTavish has had bad writing eras before, but it just really felt like suddenly no one knew what they were doing (Pratt's final months being similar).
  3. I loved Tess on Loving--never really liked Hickland on OLTL. The Curtis stuff is kinda grimy and sleazy for Nixon--but I admit I have a soft spot when she goes out there with the Gothic drama and the story really appealed to me.
  4. Which is pretty amazing! Ha I've noticed And gosh, I really don't mean to cast any shade on fans of them, and hate that my comment sounded like I was. Just for myself, I don't see any of the things I love about daytime soaps in any of the shows.
  5. Jeez--thanks as always DC for such a thoughtful recap. I completely agree about Ceara's use in Loving. I know that when Agnes Nixon created her character and got Genie to accept it, according to Genie, she was offered a role that she "couldn't say no to" and that would cross over to various ABC shows. I suppose it was too hard to think of how that would work at GH... I have a lot of affection for the Carter Jones/Loving crossover, but that's mostly because it was what made me a steady Loving viewer. I can't say that it was a particularly strong time for the show.
  6. Ha I loved him and yes, always had his pink haired clip from Geri's Bag it Up video in my avatar. A completely useless character who was on way too long, although I would prefer his storylines over Ryan's...
  7. Which AMC livestream with Jon Lindstrom?
  8. They also, especially under Tom Ellis, went heavily in a corporate business direction which felt devoid of character in the late 1980s... I agree about the campus. Agnes Nixon in her bible mentions how the campus will be used as the required "marketplace"--the term she always uses for a location where she can have characters interact, run into each other, etc. Traditionally she admits to rather awkwardly using the hospital as a "marketplace" (which is still true of many soaps--cuz, you know, we all go to the hospital so often in real life) and how the campus setting will mean they won't
  9. Oh I remember. But, this just seems to be accepted practice now. I would hardly expect the budget Daytime Emmys to have issue with this when higher profiles are doing the same. Sadly Great episode scripted by Richard Kramer (who went on to write the first Tales of the City series, some great novels, and was very generous when I asked to interview him for a project). The rules were ridiculous--basically no touching, but they were allowed to have a cigarette which was a concession of sorts. And a number of affiliates did not air the episode, it was pulled from reruns, sponsors p
  10. I don't like to argue with Erika, but that's the only time I've ever heard that Gillian was fired, and didn't want out on her own. It doesn't make much sense (especially, of course, since there was a Vicki between them). And yeah, Erika, for some reason, has always been a bit too kind towards Frons I think lol. In that respect I prefer Susan Lucci and Agnes Nixon's take (two women who are usually loathe to say anything negative)
  11. Yes, but there did seem to be more involvement than in other forms of TV--I guess I should have said "relatively". I was also thinking of radio soaps--the big forces there were women--Irna, Anne Hummert (OK, with her husband Frank ) and Elaine Carrington. Though it's true actual writers (and creators at the Hummert factory) were often men, Robert Harvey Andrews, Orin Tovrov etc. Agnes Nixon has claimed in her memoirs that the daytime industry was much more welcoming to opportunities for women in writing and producing where they wouldn't have been considered in similar jobs in prime time.
  12. Scenes from episode one (ie after the pilot) of Loving (this probably has been posted before, but I just came upon it)
  13. I agree with you--and I think that's a good point about following these people--and it being similar that extent. I just wonder how many former soap watchers watch something like Kardashians. In my experience, not many--but that's my personal experience. I've seen the examples where it does seem to be true online. As for using youtube footage--it could be that this was rushed, but honestly that seems to be (I hate this term which I always hear now) the new normal. All those CNN decade by decade documentaries use youtube footage, the talk shows do, the news does...
  14. I'll have to get back to you . 1983 often is mentioned as a strong year, though... On the AW thread, Will posted a link to the Bill Bell script archives... Which all seem to make sense except there is one for AMC that says beside it SERIES IDEA. ??? http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/ucla/pasc/wjbell.pdf
  15. Awesome! I knew that Bell helped create AW, but didn't realize until recently that originally it was credited on the show as being co-created by him. I always wonder why he never became HW when it was having trouble, instead going to DAYS and Nixon went to AW. And woah--why in that collection is there one for All My Children that says "Series Idea"???
  16. I mean Sony did release the very first episode of Y&R as a promo online for one of the anniversaries (the 40th?) and I noticed they haven't removed it. But yeah... I guess with B&B part of the thing is the main characters even in the first week are... more or less... recognizable to audiences.
  17. Ah good old Spyder Games! I didn't grow up in a household with any soap watchers. My grandma remembers listening to Ma Perkins and Guiding Light and others when they were radio soaps and she was a kid, but that's it. I do remember being very little and here in Canada AMC aired after Sesame Street (the Canadian version with French inserts instead of Spanish ) and it fascinated me, especially that book, but mom would make me turn it off because soaps weren't appropriate for kids. Anyway then when I was 11, Summer of 1991, I was stuck at home recovering from pneumonia, and somehow I
  18. It's too bad other soaps haven't done this (yes, I know about those brief GL and ATWT releases--but I'm surprised Days or Y&R haven't). Why 16 episodes though? Wouldn't it make sense to end at 15 or 20 (for a full month?) There's a German release under the same title, except it's 25 episodes (five discs) per set and they've released 8 volumes--the first 200 episodes (which I guess is almost the first year). They are in English and German but in European PAL format I believe.
  19. Oh I know Andy was a huge soap fan--the anecdote Susan Lucci told in her youtube interview last week confirms that even more. Yes, that's exactly how I feel about people like Eric (Braeden, not me ) griping that they made it sound like only women watched. And I say that as someone who has, since I was 11 or 12, spent a lot of time trying to dispel stereotypes that men don't watch soaps. But I do feel that sometimes when it is acknowledged that there's a male audience, it comes off as sort of like "See, these shows do have worth! Men watch them as well!" Completely agreed. O
  20. That's a fair point. I've never watched enough to really be able to fairly comment on them, just that they don't appeal to me. (And when people suggest they fill the gap left without soaps, it just makes me think that those people didn't watch soaps for most of the same reasons I did. You know stuff like well written dramatic scenes, deep family relationships over decades, sensitive depictions of controversial social storylines... If the Housewives franchise is known for these, than I apologize). And yes--Andy's reaction is so... Andy. And it's why so many people find him so obnoxio
  21. Oh yes, it was idiotic. Add to that that the pairing really wasn't appealing anyway (I hate to say it now after is sudden recent death, but Lawford's Charlie never really worked, not did Cecily's return). Thanks!
  22. Superb Right, but part of that is kinda just semantics. A lot of women had domestic jobs (either a their own place or working for others) which included the kind of work you could, at least in theory, do while watching your soaps...
  23. Wow, DC, as always your analysis is indispensable--thank you. For some reason I always thought I started watching under Addie Walsh, but maybe that's just when I began paying attention to the credits, as I definitely started watching when I could when Ceara crossed over to the show (which was done well but seemed an odd choice--she hadn't even been on AMC that long, of course back then when I was 11 I didn't realize she was the actress who played Laura!). I didn't start taping it daily though until a year later (I remember Kate, I think, locking Jeremy and Ceara in a garden shed or something
  24. Was Keith seen as a Shemar clone? I never thought Shemar was shown to be "from the ghetto" to the same extent (I think there was even controversy about that and if it was too much of a stereotype)
  25. Sure. Wilkie Collins basically invented the genre with The Woman in White (which was a phenomenon--they had so much merchandise, including perfumes, fans, etc, connected to it)--but basically he just took what his friend Dickens had been doing and updated the Gothic serials and combined them (as a rule sensation fiction will flirt with supernatural elements but unlike the Gothic they are based in reality--Henry James famously said that sensation serials were the first to take advantage of modern, even often middle class, settings, new technology like the railroad, etc). And it's still agreat
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