vetsoapfan
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
At least if Mary Ryan had to die under any actress, Goulet was less atrocious than Tolan. (Damning her with faint praise, I know.)
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
When Frank first showed up in Springfield, I thought he was a hunk and a half, and looked sexy as heck in that tight blue T-shirt he used to wear. Woof. But, honestly, while FD was not a great actor, the character did come across as a kind of dumb-but friendly lug, which was not so bad. I preferred Frank over Buzz and Lucy, and usually over Harley.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
There were so many valid, important reasons for Mike Bauer to return to the canvas. I would have preferred to get Stewart back, but always felt Jed Allen would have made an affable, attractive Mike too. If Beverlee McKinsey had stuck around, I would have paired Mike with Alex, but a Mike/Vanessa pair might have worked well. I did not warm up to Vanessa being with Billy, either, but preferred the two of them together over her and Matt Reardon.
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
I truly think she would have worked in the long run, had viewers been given the chance to warm up to her. Of the three replacement Marys, Carney was by far the best.
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Another World Discussion Thread
The thought had never occured to me, but now that you have brought it up: the electric McKinsey and the charismatic Espy might have been quite an interesting pair. I agree that attempting to replace Reinholt was a major blunder, but AT LEAST David Canary was a good actor in his own right. How Linda Borgenson ever got an acting job is beyond me. You are right: those reveal scenes were horrendous.
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
I forget: did we ever find out if she was Bruce Sterling's biological daughter? I thought Mary Carny was attractive, a competent actress, and showed potential. Too bad TPTB axed her so quickly in favor of the painfully bad Kathleen Tolan. Speaking of Ryan's Hope, my unpopular opinion is that Johnny Ryan was a pompous, unlikeable and boorish windbag, and Maeve could be a cold fish.
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Another World Discussion Thread
There's no denying that David Canary was a powerful actor, but pairing him with Linda Borgenson was like pairing Laurence Olivier with a Swiffer Duster. That, combined with the atrocious writing and lack of attention to history, doomed the story to fail. With a gifted scribe who knew the characters' pasts, and performers like Jacqueline Courtney, Victoria Wyndham and Canary, the idea might have been feasible, but I guess we will never know. The show had been under 5.0 in the early 1980s, but rose to 5.1 in the mid-1980s. Santa Barbara and SFT's ratings were even worse, however, so that probably did help stave off cancellation for a bit. Yes, although the bulk of the audience was on team Mac (even if many viewers wanted to have sex with Mitch more, LOL!) They certainly had more appeal than Canary's Steve and pod-Alice!
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Gordon Russell wrote the show into 1980, but left in the spring, as I recall. Sam Hall, who had been Russell's co-headwriter for a few years, took over the reigns with Peggy O'Shea. I preferred the Russell/Hall team, but O'Shea was fine too, and I was satisfied with the show under her and Hall combined. A few years later, when she wrote the show by herself, it was noticeably weaker (but Paul Rauch was producing then, so I was not surprised and did not totally blame O'Shea for OLTL's downwards spiral). (When O'Shea wrote for Search for Tomorrow, Mary Stuart said she was the best writer that the show had ever had.)
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Another World Discussion Thread
The ratings were anemic before the attempt to renew the Alice/Steve/Rachel triangle, and did not improve at all during its run. It was reported at the time that the idea was to rebuild Steve and Alice as a pair, but Linda Borgenson had no chemistry with anyone, and David Canary was a better actor with potential, so TPTB switched courses and veered Steve towards Rachel. That idea was a failure too, because "old-time" Steve and Alice fans did not buy it, and Rachel fans only wanted her with Mac, so the show finally cut its losses and killed Steve off yet again.
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
Be careful! I had never heard of that site until now, seeing you refer to it. I just tried to go to and open it, but my virus software blocked the site completely. And thank heavens, that remained its theme song in the DVD release! Ahh, Disney Plus, yet another service I do not have. (I don't subscruibe to cable.) Well, Singer did become a somewhat recognizable name thanks to The Beastmaster and V. He became very popular in MY house for looking so sexy in a loincloth and tight jeans, LOL!
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Another World Discussion Thread
You are being fair, because you are being truthful. The Chromakey was dreadful, and we were NOT interested in watching strangers playing once-beloved characters, particularly Linda Borgenson who was painfully bland and nondescript. Borgenson and Canary had no chemistry at all. There was no reason to care.
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
In Canada, neither Hulu nor Decades are available to us, unfortunately. I am a complete and abject failure at internet technology. I could not get this app to work for me when I desperately tried to install and use it months ago. I'll give it another shot. It couldn't hurt. Thanks for the reminder. If St. Elsewhere were also available in Canada on the CTV app, I would move heaven and earth to make it function for me. But...Family alone is enough incentive. I did not "get" the appeal, either, and I was still watching TGL "live" in those days. Then again, I never really wanted Reva on the show in the first place, considering how much airtime she hogged. Her histrionics just made me grimace. Actually, that's not a bad price for all the seasons combined. I'd pay that. And Jeff Kober, Dodger on CB, is now on GH, to add another soap connection.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I think by that time, Lemay was pretty much burned out. I found much of his work during his first three years on AW to be brilliant, even though I found fault with some of his choices, but even by 1975 there were issues with his writing. The problems continued to grow over the next few years. I agree. But I suspect they would complain about anything which they felt was too slow moving; not flashy enough. Tennessee Williams, Jane Austen, Louisa May Alcott, Laura Ingalls Wilder and Harper Lee might have also incited their wrath. Many folks today (particularly some of the ones on Twitter, LOL) have the attention spans of gnats. She certainly was "down there," wasn't she? I wonder what would have become of the revisited Alice/Steve/Rachel triangle with a capable writer at the helm, and a return of Jacqueline Courtney and George Reinholt. What ended up on screen, under Jacker's pen, was a disaster. Sadly, a lot of tedious repetition was foisted on the audience then.
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Unpopular opinions: cancelled soaps edition
When characters like Scotty, Bobbie, Monical Mac, etc., are available to them, TPTB's insistence on focusing on Sonny, Jason, Carly, and Howarth's 800 characters boogles my mind. GH needs a total overhaul. I'd write out 2/3 of the current characters if I could. I think the China Beach DVDs are out of print and hard-to-find/very expensive now, but trying to hunt down an affordable set is well worth the effort. Dana Delaney cannot be praised enough for her work on this series.
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The DVD boxset for China Beach was truly an astonishing accomplishment. To be fair, I've also seen "labor-of-love" DVD releases for film gems like The Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind, but for beloved TV series that only attracted moderate popularity among the general audience, nothing beats China Beach. (The one-season release of St. Elsewhere was not even remastered, had grainy video quality, suffered poor music changes and was such a disappointment. Now, only a good set of St Elsewhere and seasons three, four and five of TV's Family--starring Sada Thompson--are on my dream DVD wish list. Well, along with collections of vintage soaps, of course.)
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