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9 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

Pretty impressive that Finn was bedridden for months yet lost no muscle tone. 

The genes. Sheilas genes.

The whole angles used around Kevin worked a lot better than most PSA stories. Actually, it was so touching (I don’t want to spoiler Y&Rfan1983) when something really shocking happens around #1615.

In my memory, the arrivals of James and Anthony more or less kill any momentum for future stories of the Anderson brothers, which would be too bad because these character do work surprisingly well.

as for 1994: I remember to find Dylan and Jessica very dull / the storyline unlikeable because I never got why Eric and Stephanie went so ballistic against Dylan. I really look forward to the Universal Studios Remote. Can’t remember whether it was just a clip or one or two episodes where the young lovers enjoyed the amusement park. The rest makes it my alleine favorite year as well. Will be interesting to see whether this assessment will still stand out 

3 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

Based on the casting news, it appears B&B films 3ish weeks ahead of air date. That's tighter than I thought. In many cases that's worked to B&B's advantage because they can quickly ditch things that aren't working or pounce on something that unexpectedly does.  

Not sure about the dates this year but July/August television city is usually dark for at least 3 weeks, sometimes more. That’s why taping to airdate is so close right now. By taping a double episode each day it will soon be back to 6-8 weeks advance…

11 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

I was wondering why Quinn was kinda in the background for so long and then boom Honey Bear! The affair reveal was super quick and so was Carter's wedding. They definitely knew they needed to split Eric/Quinn and reunite Quarter. Hopefully, they'll just send Quinn to Europe and not *kill* her off only to bring her back in a year.

RS really gave B&B some energy. I'm disappointed, but it was her choice, so I wish her well.

+1 to all of this

Im shocked and disappointed to see Rena Sofer walk out because she showed again what a fantastic actress she is by playing Quinn. She made all of the outlandish material work - and elevated it to must-see TV. Adam & Eve anyone!?

that said, 9 years is a long time and much longer than a lot of us predicted it to be. I was pleasantly surprised that in recent years Quinn become more than Wyatt’s mom - pairing her with John McCook really was a blessing. Now it also makes sense why the show eventually decided on ending Eric & Quinn. She is more fluid with Carter… I wonder if she will get a real exit. I really that she does. Maybe that diamond dude Ricardo’s death catches up on her and she has to leave town quickly. Or something totally different. Just please no non exit like for such long running characters like Nick, Jackie and Massimo.

7 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Ugh, yet This was blown over for at least a decade or so (and wasn’t even dealt with really I think when it eventually did come out) while Brooke became the “slut of the of the valley” 

Uhhh yeah, that one of a lifetime moment to de-virginize someone in the wake of a near death experience. Haven’t we experienced it all!? I’m REALLY curious how I feel about these episodes today…

Hahaha - no one will recognize her. It’s like Quinn stalking Ivy in Paris with the biggest hat ever…

Lmao at the mannequin memes (BTW contrary to most I really liked that story and thought it was well done…).

What happened to the previous Douglas? The actor was pure gold: „Phoebe is Baby Beth…“ and „Beth is alive“ gave me goosebumps and laughter at the same time. And when Thomas was gaslighting his own son…

and finally, this is Thomas‘ son. Bye Hope! Plotwise I appreciate that the show picks up with these characters after being Sheila and Steffy/Finn centric for a long time.

I haven’t been watching in ages, but is Billy now 200 years old? While her acting sticks still annoy the hell out of me, Michelle Stafford ist ageing pretty well.

This promo is classic soap. I love it. 
 

And of course it is soap 101 that such a “storyline” means that Sheila is NOT gone and will not go anywhere. It’s like those other biiiiiiig secret in soapland which must never come out. 

21 minutes ago, kalbir said:

CBS/Sony have no idea what a gold mine they have with 1970s/1980s/1990s Y&R. The classics proved that there's an audience for those episodes.

Not so sure about the 70 and early 80s because so little connection to current cast, but late 80s onwards is such a sure bet. Production values were amazing and most actors are still on the show.

1 hour ago, PSPCindy said:

I want to say thanks to all uploaders.  B&B has been my favorite soap for years-even though the last few have been mostly terrible.  I do love the classic shows and they are hard to find.

It’s just UNBELIEVABLE that the first 8 season are soon online in its entirety. A dream come true!

6 hours ago, divinemotion said:

Clark had the only good male storylines but for the first 3 4 years. Bb is a female driven show. Brooke and Stephanie I think drove 95 percent of the main main storylines. 

With that Clarke also was a rare species. Usually these non-Forrester males only drive story 1-2 years max before being reduced to a sidekick and eventually written off the show after 5 years the latest.

3 minutes ago, blueberrywaffle said:

Why did Terry want to leave since 1985?

He was a hot commodity at a time when several ex-soapers made the successfull move to primetime like Tom Selleck and David Hasselhoff. He would have been stupid not to try his luck in primetime - it just did not work due to the projects offered to him. 

12 hours ago, divinemotion said:

I loved Stephanie s fake heart attack

It was an EPIC storyline. The writing, directing and acting was all top notch. Stylewise it more like Santa Barbara or GH than B&B because it was tad outlandisher than your average Brad Bell plot. Poor Dr. Mark was thrown under the bus for it - which was the final nail in the coffin for Clarke Garrison as a character with C.J. also being off the canvas and the Spectra exodus looming.

Due to this story, the Stephanie Douglas Trust and Taylor's return 2005 was one of THE most iconic B&B years for me similar to 1993 with the Battle for BeLieF, Sheila/Lauren, Macy's alcolism or 1994 with Taylor's Arabian Nights, the sudden death of Jay Garvin and B&B in concert or 2002 with Brooke giving birth to Hope, Sheila's return as Mrs. Lovejoy, Taylor's second death and Portofino.

16 hours ago, Videnbas said:

Okay, here goes! Anthony Armando - the thesis!  (remember you have been warned)

 

I started reading because I was super eager for your assessment but then decided against it to remain the most Spoiler-free I can in my rewatch. It dawned to me that I missed/forgot quite a lot from the first half of 1994, so I will reply at a later date. I just reached September 1993, #1628 and James and Anthony are not yet in town.

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Brenda definitely didn't have the sarcastic and hard edge that Eileen supplied.

Peter tried hard to bring a touch of Terry to Jack but eventually the character was softened.

Jess filled Brenda's shoes admirably.

The next standout actors for me were Tricia as Nina and Victoria as Drucilla. Ashley's Mac stood out.

One character I could never get into was Brittany-so much story for an unexciting actress and character.

+1

Both Ashley Bashioum and David Tom were not major draws for me, but I really appreciated that they were unique actors which gave Y&R lots of lawyers. It's this kind of talent which is nowadays replaced by looks/scene chewing actors like Billy Miller etc.

Thanks for sharing these!

I guess it will be interesting what's next for Sheila now that Kim Brown is clocking in her first full year return since leaving in 1998...

On the trivia front: Jacqueline McInnes Wood should super be close to reach her 2000th episode while Don Diamont is thisclose to celebrate 1500 episodes as Bill.

Meanwhile, Dan Martin has reached his 200th episode as Brad Baker. It took him 25 years which I think should be soap record for longest recurring guest star who was never given a contract.

By mid 2005 Patrick Mulcahey was hired as a writer and story consultant and we got the dynamite arc of Stephanie faking her heart attack. Gold! And a couple of months later Stephanie kicked Eric in the groin when Stephanie Douglas Trust was revealed - by Katherine Chancellor no less. So much soapy goodness. But the beginning of 2005 was rough.

51 minutes ago, divinemotion said:

February 2005 episodes is uploaded. March is next.

What a super weird period on the show. There was something with Amber skiing (taking pictures of Bridget????) and that was the Exit story of Adrienne Frantz after 8 years. wTF!? Then you had the Morgan story which was quickly wrapped up (unfortunately), Sydney Penny got Linda Gray as her mother (this was huge for me!) - and by late April everything changed: Taylor was back! I was in utter shock.

16 hours ago, Videnbas said:

I actually think that going back and watching Karen in 1992-1994, the later development of making her a lesbian makes sense. Karen never did seem comfortable with (straight) sex.

And she was really quite different from Caroline, once she got past the phase of trying to transform herself into Caroline.

But on the whole, Karen was strangely out of place on B&B. She never really fit in anywhere. However, I did like that she seemed to have a certain kind of common sense and self-awareness, like ending a relationship if it didn't feel right, and thinking responsibly about intimacy. She seemed to grow into a very "balanced" character. But it seemed like TPTB never quite knew what to do with her. 

I couldn't agree more about Karen. Originally supposed to play the Caroline angle as her clone, the writers wisely dropped this and opted to make Karen her own personality. Then, she was supposed to enter the business world but got only three or four episodes were we actually saw her doing business at Spectra. At the same time she was second best option for both Thorne and Connor, mostly insecure about her own sexuality yet she was pushing Brooke to get herself the married man Ridge back. WTF!?

I guess the main cause for failure is that as of January 1993 the latest the writers had zero investment in Karen as a character. She is just there and fitting multiple purposes which contradict each other at times.

Another character which is quite botched is Connor: I have now reached September 1993 and Connor has been in nearly all episodes since his introduction. I had no idea how heavy Brad Bell was pushing this character to the forefront. Right now Connor is even involved in a bitter rivalry with Sheila!? Come 12 months later Connor will be involved in a Statler and Waldorf kind of "relationship" with James Warwick where they talk about Brooke, Taylor and Sheila and totally forget about their own lives. You would never know that Connor was initally the new super alpha male in town. In typical B&B fashion male characters burn out quickly in LA it seems.

PS: as of #1621 I experience a tiny bit of discomfort by watching the show: the tone seems to have changed by August 1993. Everyone seems to be bitter with each other. You have Brooke vs. Stephanie and Sally vs. Stephanie which has always been the case. But you also have Connor vs. Sheila and the general atmosphere in LA feels like a typical Aaron Spelling soap. Everybody crosses everbody - I kind of miss the lightheartedness of the Spectras and some good old fun. Macy just had the accident with Kevin and was exposed as an alcoholic doing hidden drinking (which was GOLD!) which makes some wonderful scenes, but naturally it is also rather dark. I'm curious about what's coming up next because Catalina and James Warwick happenend a bit later in my memory and I have no idea what else will be going on.

56 minutes ago, skebujebu said:

I am just rewatching the 2010-2011 season. It really feels like the last classic season with all the SF, RM and all classic  characters there, even infomous Tawny Moore After that it was all Lope and Hope for years…

I recall that B&B was SUPER bad around 2008 and rebounded masterfully in 2010 (POSÉ!). In my mind then came Sarah Joy Brown as Sandy Sommers and it went into a giant ditch. I think I actually quit watching in 2011 or 2012, not because of RM and SF's exits but because it all felt very lifeless to me and Liam&Hope were on 24/7. I did not come back fulltime until early 2014, Thorsten Kaye was suddenly around and was some much needed fresh air. To me, the show has never gotten this bad like in the early 2010s. Even though it came close in 2018 and beyond (like frist half of 2021). 

I cannot remember much of Amber's return - except that scene with Bill at the cliff house where he imagined her pushing her off that very cliff. Talk about a dream come true for many old-school B&B viewers. LMAO!!! Tawny was always great fun - too bad that in my recollection her return was just sampled script from 10 years prior.

6 hours ago, Joseph said:

2001 when Brooke Married Thorne, end that episode and it was very happy ending! The Single Fact Stephanie Gave her away was worthwhile

Good point - it really felt like a series finale type of episode with all the Logans from the show's premiere and some present.

4 hours ago, Videnbas said:

I never did warm up to Brooke and Thorne though - that pairing just left too much destruction in its wake and it was all kind of swept under the rug for their "happily ever after" wedding. So I'm glad the show didn't end with them being end game.

I think a lot came down to one's personal perception of how much you were done with BRIDGE (after 10+ years of constant back and forth) to cheer for THROOKE

# 1616 - this is definitely an episode I have missed out on during its original run

Quote of the day goes to Stephanie when Brooke wants to evict her from her office: "I don't quit, bitch!"

14 hours ago, Joseph said:

The Episodes in Portofino were Just Gorgeous, i Miss On Location Shootings, i wonder if Venice were as Beautiful, I've just seen the Brooke/Thorne Proposal, that was one of the most beautiful ever!

The Venice location shoot was amazing. Gondola rides, a ludcrious chase at the Bell Tower, an amazing proposal and a stylish photo shoot on St. Mark's Square... The cast used was tighter than in Portofino but still broader than everything since (minus Syndey 2017). One reason why Portofino was far superior: they shot in Venice in December when clear skyes are rare and it didn't have such outdoor events like a fashion show AND a spectacular return... And if it weren't for B&B I might not have heard from Portofino ever - unlike Venice which one has seen before. Cut: Been to Portofino on vacation many years ago and am now desperate to stay Hotel Splendido (like the B&B cast did...) because it is all oh-so pretty.

1 hour ago, skebujebu said:

I just realized that Stephanie has like two birthdays In 1998 she had her birthday in February and in 2010 she had it in September So which one is correct haha

Ha!

Birthdays of characters not actually born onscreen are so fluid - and rarely mentioned. I think the bdays of Ridge and Brooke were also mentioned once many years ago.

wasn’t Macys birthday her second wedding to Thorne (in 1995) or so?

On 7/21/2022 at 3:33 PM, yrfan1983 said:

That was a shocking moment! I feared for poor l'il Eric, to be in proximity to his psychotic soon-to-be stepmother.

With Sheila, maybe it's not OOC, because she is not sane. Maybe in summer '92 she convinced herself she had only pure love for the baby, but 6 months later, her true feelings emerged.

Nah, it was just lazy writing and did not fit in. It COULD have made sense IF Sheila were having troubles with Eric over having a baby of their own (at this point already) or IF she were having issues with Brooke.

Speaking of Sheila: I've reached #1604 - aka. the fight for BeLieF is (almost) over. After ca. two months of backburner status, Sheila is back with full force. Concerned over Eric's health and/or the possibility to losing her newfound wealth (take your pick!), Sheila resorts to her scheming ways. When teaming up with Stephanie falls flat, Sheila realizes that she has to bond further with Brooke. They were somewhat friends before - even though mostly due to lack of other friends in town and bonding over their hatred towards Stephanie. This time around: Sheila clearly has an agenda and it is delicious: getting as close as possible to Brooke to protect Eric's interests (which Stephanie failed!!!) and maybe build a safety net of her own. At the same time, Sheila tries to promote herself to Stephanie, Eric and Ridge as their best chance to save Forrester Creations from falling into Brooke's arms. Naturally, the Forresters do not trust Nurse Sheila for their business problems - but Stephanie - thinking that she sees a scheming pro at work - grows suspicious like she did the year before that Sheila is not just an innocent nurse. 

As for the battle for BeLieF: I had totally forgotten that it was Connor's idea for Brooke to demand majority control of FC. Brooke was totally blindsided when he brought it up - yet kept a straight face not to weaken her case. The dialogue is just GREAT in all scenes of this storyline. The business aspects (lack of liquid funds, residuals, selling the patent to a third party) make a lot of sense and add an extra lawyer to all these not sooo professional motivation like Brooke's vendetta against Stephanie. This almost 30 year old storyline is still killing it on all levels. What a treat!

PS: in the totally unrelated "A" story of Macy's alcoholism, Kevin somewhat tried to play matchmaker for Sly and Darla. Based on her reaction, the "C" story of Spence&Darla is officially dead because there was no mention of it at all - and Bill Spencer has not been seen in a long time...