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  1. 3 hours ago, Pedro said:

    The witch-hunt seems to be working quite efficiently. First the Vault, now Gilson says something happened with videoland that his VPN stopped working and he cannot find any new suitable VPN for videoland that would actually work for recording the episodes. Is this the end for these good quality episodes and we are forced to watch these low quality episodes on their official youtube channel  ? Anyone knows what is going on  ? 

    I think we should just be patient. @ChickenNuggetz92 already said he's working to solve the problem and would keep us updated. Fingers crossed there will be a solution eventually!

    In the mean time, we do have a lot of episodes already to enjoy which is amazing! And with the official uploads, we know that whatever happens, we will soon be able to watch all classic episodes one way or the other, which is the most important thing.

  2. 14 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

    Up to 1589… wow, I am in awe how the show is firing on all cylinders. Every story is working for me. The only scenes I FF through are Ridge and Taylor’s multiple rounds of lovemaking. 

    How fun was the Fabio bachelorette party! Back when soaps had a budget. So interesting for Taylor to be in the mix. It bothers me that Taylor, the psychiatrist, is so clearly judgmental with people.  First, she was almost hostile with Sheila, without a straightforward reason. One could chalk that up to Taylor being a shrewd judge of character. But then she is not welcoming to Macy. Geez, Taylor and Macy are sisters-in-law! Why can’t Taylor show some empathy to Macy, instead of immediately putting on her psychiatrist hat?

    Interesting that Macy broke up with Sly off-screen. I would have liked to have seen that! At least we saw the aftermath. But the writers definitely downplayed the fact that Macy must have been very sad to be with Sly romantically. Like – we should have seen Macy and Sly start to have sex, and Macy trying to keep herself from crying.
    Macy’s “dark night of the soul”, where she rolled around the gutter among the garbage and the rats, reminded me a bit of Days ’95 Mar-Devil when Marlena was wandering through the slums trying to fight off the devil and ended up naked at Bo and Billie’s engagement party. But with Macy, I think the show could have gone much further with her “hitting bottom”.

    The character of Jack is an enigma to me, and kind of a bust. I have no concept how Jack feels about Sally or how Jack really feels about Stephanie. Chris Robinson was such a success on General Hospital, but so generic on B&B. I guess it’s thus the writer’s fault?  I’m assuming Sally and Jack’s impending wedding doesn’t come to pass. Surprised Jack makes it up til 1995. 

    I feel like something went sideways story-wise with Steve Crown. On one ep – Eric gave Steve a deadline of one week to get close to Brooke. Next ep and the next 20 eps – Steve is absent and that plot point is ditched. Steve then only appears for 2 more eps to wrap up the story, before Elliott takes over as the lawyer. I wonder if something happened off-screen with Perry Stephens that prevented him appearing more. I’m so used to seeing Robert Gentry on All My Children with a moustache. So strange to see him on B&B clean-shaven!

    Yes, the show was really in a good place in the summer of 1993!

    Interesting point that Taylor and Macy are sisters-in-law but don't seem close at all. But at least they actually have occasional scenes together (approximately one every other year or so). Brooke and Macy, as far as I know, have yet to have a single conversation. I wonder how long it will be.

    All the things that you wished to see with Sly and Macy, I'm actually almost sure did play out on screen. Like there was this time early on when she was drunk and we were led to believe that he took advantage and had sex with her, but then we found out the next episode when he apologized for coming on too strong that they actually hadn't slept together. And then we did see how Macy finally made the decision to sleep with him (after living with him for months without having sex with him) because he suggested she should move in with her mother, and she panicked because she knew she couldn't drink if she moved in with Sally, so she decided to sleep with Sly in order to stay with him and be able to continue drinking without her mother finding out. And I also think we did get a breakup scene where Macy moved out and Sly realized she never loved him. As for thinking the show could have gone much further with Macy "hitting bottom"... well, I won't spoil it but let's just say Macy lying drunk in the alley wasn't her true "dark night of the soul" - that is yet to come.

    I agree with you about Jack - he is strangely lackluster as a character. I liked him in the mob storyline, but after that was resolved, he simply seems to lose energy. He simply can't keep up with a dynamic character like Sally, and his involvement with Stephanie also doesn't really work.

  3. 9 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

    Sally means the lack of support from Stephanie and the rest of the Forresters. Or in Sally's view: the family always showed hostility and/or lack of trust to Macy because they hate Sally.

     

    The only real event shown onscreen: the police going after Macy on behalf of the Forresters over the theft of the BeLieF formula.

    Yes, that, and "events by omission" - such as Stephanie having many friendly and supportive scenes with her other daughter-in-law Taylor, but virtually none with Macy.

    It was especially jarring in late 1993 when Thorne/Macy and Ridge/Taylor had virtually identical marital problems (Ridge and Macy having to work closely with someone who was clearly attracted to them, because it was so important to their respective companies), and the entire Forrester family rallied around Ridge and Taylor and supported Ridge working with Brooke and encouraged Taylor to be understanding so they could get control of their company back, yet NOBODY encouraged Thorne to be equally understanding of Macy working with Anthony, who was literally Spectra's last hope.

  4. 22 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

    There is no one on this show that is worthwhile anymore. Brad Bell and his writers have managed to make all of them unpleasant people. And the sad thing is that it wouldn't be that hard to make most, if not all of them, sympathetic. Just tweek their lines slightly and have them show some self-awareness.

    I remember when I watched the movie "Philadelphia" there was a female lawyer cross-examining Tom Hanks' character. She came off as a real bitch with the way she was treating him and her line of questioning. But when she sat down she whispered to her co-worker something about how she hated what she just had to do. That simple line gave her character another dimension, and in an instant your perception of her changed. A few lines here and there of that sort in this show could do wonders.

    So true, practically every single character on the show is extremely unpleasant. I think it has to do with how they speak and behave - the dialogue is just so dumbed down, repetitive and confrontational, like they are all a bunch of mean high school kids. I can't remember the last time I saw a genuinely warm and friendly interaction on the show, or truly intelligent and humorous dialogue for that matter.

    The sad truth is that no character can speak in any other "voice" than the scriptwriters' voice, and that voice is thoroughly unlikeable.

  5. On 9/14/2022 at 1:56 AM, divinemotion said:

     The time to evolve brooke was 20 Years ago and that train never left the station because of extremely bad writing. Brad will do anything for cheap scandal and over the top drama. After brooke slept with Bill and got pregnant in 2013 .... anything... anything is possible. Brooke and Liam is something very expectable for Bold. It could drive 2, 3 years of disgusting story. I would watch because... it's been so boring for so long. I mean.... I guess I prefer a sex scandal  over Copy paste storyline from 1991! Brooke Ridge and Taylor triangle is so worn out... it's like a public toilet doorknob. It's shocking and absurd for women that age to act like that over this old playboy that they both should have forgotten by now. Brad is copy pasting 30 year old storyline and it's laughable. 

    The time to evolve Brooke was after Hope's birth, when Bridget cut ties with her and she moved in with Stephanie. That could have been Brooke's road to Damascus moment.

  6. 23 minutes ago, sheilaforever said:

    I was just about to chime in: @AbcNbc247- at what episode are you at the moment?

    I have also basically zero memories of early 1994, but as soon as Kim Brown is back from her maternity leave things should heat up considerably. I'm curious whether Taylor's death will work for me slightly as good as the first time around knowing that it is, well, a fake-out. Fall 1994 should be dynamite with Morroco. 

    Yeah, I remember the year from mid 1994 (once the Morocco storyline started) to mid 1995 as some of the best B&B has ever been. I have been looking forward to seeing that particular time period of B&B for many years! I just hope the issues with the Vault will be fixed because we're currently right at the doorstep of Taylor's death storyline.

    I am also curious how the whole Jessica/Dylan storyline will hold up because I have virtually no memories of it. It will be a bit peculiar seeing Ivana whenever she comes on the show though, now knowing what her fate will eventually be.

  7. 20 minutes ago, Chris B said:

    Speaking of Thorne, with Winsor he has always been one of my favorite characters since I started the show. As a child I don't recall liking Jeff in the role and I hated the singing. Now that I'm watching it from the beginning I feel like Jeff is my favorite and I actually find myself loving the singing between him and Macy. I typically don't like singing on soaps, but they have such good chemistry and Jeff is great in the role. Clayton was the best looking Thorne, but I feel like his acting was limited. It's disappointing to hear Jeff fizzled out as Thorne, but that's typical of Brad when he loses interest in someone.

    I have to say Jeff was also my favorite Thorne, much because of his natural chemistry with Macy, in combination with the subtle sense of humor he brought to the character (not unlike the type of humor Susan Flannery brought to Stephanie). I also liked Clayton (although I agree that his acting was somewhat limited) but found it harder to warm up to Winsor's take on the role (he always seemed too "macho" for the role of Thorne whereas both Clayton and Jeff had a certain softness to their portrayal). Ingo I don't even count as a real Thorne. His stint was too short and too jarringly OOC.

    As for Thorne and Macy's singing, I loved it as a child, and rewatching it now I still feel the same because they really do sound good together (not all good voices actually blend well but theirs do, probably because his is high and hers is low, so they are almost in the same vocal range and similar in sound). They strike me as being actual "real" singers, rather than just "singing soap actors", and it does make a difference.

  8. 2 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

    Does anyone remember soap gossip from back then. Was Jeff Trachta already his music career? Y&R's Michael Damian was on Broadway in 1994 in JOSEPH, right? Jeff Trachta did GREASE in 1996 which they did incorporate in the show, but I wodner if he had some musical engagements before or whether he was really shipped off for storyline purposes.

    From what I have managed to find, 1994 was when Jeff Trachta and Bobbie Eakes did their first album together (which became a hit in the Netherlands, cue the Rotterdam storyline). But that still doesn't explain his absence because like I said, Macy was heavily involved in storylines at the time (and actually worked quite well as a standalone character without Thorne). So my guess is it actually was for plot purposes. After all, they did ship Brooke off to Paris with him too for a while, and Thorne did have occasional scenes from "Paris" so he wasn't entirely absent.

    But Thorne has always been a character who periodically loses momentum. That is why I think pairing him up with a supporting character like Darla (as much as I adore her) was the kiss of death for him.

  9. 7 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

    I have now reached November 1993: Catalina Island...

     

    Boy, this show was so rewarding to watch. Brooke/Ridge/Taylor is anything but fresh because - well - we get the same or less cleverly structured drivel till this very day!? BUT: everything else is extremely fascinating to watch.

    Cue: the Y&R crossover storyline of Lauren & Sheila.

    #1666: While intended for Sheila to have her comeuppance, it is also Lauren - one of the biggest soap b*tches of the 80s and 90s - who gets a dose of her own medicine. I won't reveal any specifics because some of you have not reached this episode yet, but this is just soooooo good. 

    BTW: I think someone on this board mentioned it before. In the previous episode Sheila gave Eric a handjob. Like for real (sort of, without getting to graphic). I don't think this was EVER done in soaps before and definitely not since.

     

    I agree - watching these classic B&B episodes I am surprised to realize that Ridge's love life is actually one of the *least* interesting storylines in my mind (back in the day Bridge vs Tridge was always the major frontburner story and one that I was following with a lot of interest). Maybe it's knowing that 30 years on he still won't have made up his mind that kills the romance for me.

    On the other hand, my appreciation for Stephanie, Sheila and the Spectra gang just keeps growing when watching these episodes the second (or third) time around. There are just so many subtleties and nuances in their scenes that completely passed me by the first time.

    Bridge vs Tridge may be very soapy, but subtle they are not.

  10. 3 hours ago, Pedro said:

    I do not get it how can it be so "easily zoomed away with few clicks of the mouse" but nevermind, I suspected an hideous attack on me like it was the last time since everyone here has got to be just happy about literally everything and gets furious by any kind of criticism, even a slight one. It is unfortunate, yes, but what other choice is there really, I can't record on my own, I don't have time for this. Maybe I am complaining because I am watching eps on TV and black frame cannot be zoomed away just like that. But I just said my opinion which I know is unpopular and even undesirable but still, this site is meant for discussion so that is what I've used it for even if everyone does not approve of my opinion, I just simply don't care. What is fortunate is that there is someone who still is recording and uploading otherwise you would end up with nothing to watch. And I do believe it is just the way it is being recorded and cannot be changed or improved manually , plus I did not say one word about the quality of the uploads which is still very good. 

    Using VLC Player, the dialogue window where you can cut away the black frame is accessed via Control+E (Windows) or Command+E (Mac).

    I reread my reply and I don't see how it constituted a "hideous attack". I just felt that there would have been more constructive and polite ways to make a suggestion to the uploader that they change the video format if possible, rather than saying how you wished that someone other than them was still uploading, and that it was so unfortunate that the new uploads were unwatchable to you. I remember there was a previous Angel who was so discouraged by similar comments that they stopped uploading.

    43 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

    Attention everyone and especially the anonymous uploading angel we appreciate so much - 

    @ChickenNuggetz92 provided an update here https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/61220-yrbbgl-vault-updates/page/3/#comment-1813298

     

    new uploads to the Vault are temporarily on hold while ChickenNuggetz92 migrates the Vault to a new OneDrive. He'll keep us updated... meanwhile, a million thanks to ChickenNuggetz92 and the Angels!

    Fingers crossed this issue can be fixed! And again, thanks so much to everyone who is making the Vault possible! It truly is a dream come true for us classic B&B fans!

    1 hour ago, divinemotion said:

    Guys which episode was Sheila's first one... I forgot

    According to my notes, Sheila's first episode is #1293.

  11. 2 hours ago, Pedro said:

    Unfortunately I had to resort to buying 1994 eps from Gilson. He is recording in perfect quality. Pity @rsclassicfanforever gave up recording VL nonetheless I fully understand this decision; it is a time-consuming and painstaking job to do. The Angel uploading eps these days is recording in a strange format, there is much smaller screen than usual. That is why I had to resort to buying from Gilson, unfortunately. But I do not have anything against that, it is good the Vault is being made use of. 

    I'd like to ask you an honest question (and it may come across as blunt):

    If you do not have anything against buying 1994 episodes from Gilson, why do you point out twice in the same post how "unfortunate" it is? (And no, paying for things is not unfortunate, it's normal. Getting things for free is fortunate.)

    I honestly didn't even notice the difference between the recent and not so recent uploads until you pointed it out. I can't see any actual noticeable difference in picture quality, only the black frame that wasn't there before. And that can easily be zoomed away with a few clicks of the mouse (it never bothered me though).

  12. 3 hours ago, SFK said:

    What a joke. How old is the person who crafted this "list"?

    I tend to look at this subject through a theatre lens. So many great roles have been played by a number of actors, all bringing something different to each part. Sure, we have our favorites, and some are the overwhelming favorites, but there's room for interpretation.

    I adore Susan Lucci and it's easy to say that Erica could NEVER be played by another actress, and quite frankly, that's easy to say because that never happened. Look at the sister role of Rachel and how two strong actresses did marvelously in the part.

    I agree - in theatre, "recasts" happen all the time.

    In movies and TV I think it's more difficult because the medium has a lower "suspension of disbelief" threshold (greater demands on realism) and also more focus on closeups. Nevertheless, recasts on soaps can be successful, especially IMO "leading man/leading lady" types (where the character is needed more than the actor). "Character actors" are harder to replace because they usually bring more of their personal quirks to the role and build the role around those (case in point, Sally Spectra). And another category of characters that usually could not be recast are, paradoxically, very minor supporting characters (temporary characters unrelated to the main families, doctors, police officers, sidekicks), because they are not important enough to warrant the break of believability that a recast entails - it's easier to replace them with another character altogether filling the same plot function.

  13. There is a difference between being non-recastable because an actor has been playing the character for so long there would be no point in recasting because the character might as well be killed off when the actor retires, and being non-recastable because the actor and character is truly one of a kind. Like Darlene Conley's Sally Spectra or Susan Flannery's Stephanie Forrester - THAT'S non-recastable. 

  14. 1 hour ago, BoldKara said:

    It wouldn't surprise me if they are licensing the episodes to places like VL and Cala, that they don't want to catch up to the episodes those places are screening (on YouTube) - it could be eating into their ability to sell to those markets if the episodes are available on YT.

    So I think once they have shown all of S5, they will then jump to continuing S10 at 4 episodes pace per day. Just a feeling - otherwise it doesn't make sense why they would jump to S10 like this. By the time 19 Sept rolls around, there will only be about 2-3 months left of S5 to upload to the YT channel, which would only take about half a month in real time to finish off.

    You may be on to something - they may not want the same episodes available on YT and VL at the same time. I wonder what this means for the VL episodes though - could it mean that they are only planning to continue throughout season 9? I guess it's only speculation and we'll see eventually - I just hope we'll get to fill that season 8-9 gap somehow. 

  15. 9 minutes ago, rsclassicfanforever said:

    I saw on the B&B Youtube Channel , that they will begin with Season 10 at September 19th.

     

    And they reduce to only 3 episodes of Season 5 :(

    That makes very little sense... those who are watching from the beginning will keep watching season 5 eps. Why jump ahead to season 10 and reduce the pace of season 5? With 4 episodes a day, they'd get there soon enough eventually anyway.

  16. 14 hours ago, PSPCindy said:

    I'm with you Finrod, replacements are not pleasing to me generally.  Clayton Norcross was a beautiful Thorne but I found his Thorne weak and could never see him driving story.  JT was not my cup of tea at all.  Frankly, I got so sick of all the singing.  I'm a musical person but I don't watch soaps to see community theater.  A little music is okay but BE and JT sang constantly.  Even today in re-watching classic episodes I ff the singing.

    Winsor Harmon was a favorite of mine.  I still miss him and Thorne.  It was sad that Bell killed off all of his immediate family.  I found it particularly cruel that Thorne lost Ali to that bully Steffy.  Ali had problems but killing her off felt like a stunt to do an "aha" on the audience.  WH's recast was horrendous.  And I generally like Ingo.  He was miscast as Thorne.

    I feel much the same about the new Taylor.  I loved to look at HT back in the day.  She was so gorgeous.  Later not so much but still she was Taylor. Though I often had issues with the portrayal by everyone on the show that Taylor was a "saint" Tylo did play Taylor with a certain gravitas that Allen totally lacks.  KA does not fit.  And I'm not sure if it is the writing, her acting or the directing but Taylor is obnoxious, silly and comes off as dumb.  The whitewash of her past does her no favors whatsoever.

    But in general the stories being told today are so superficial and really make no sense.  Even topics that should be impactful and really emotional come off as unbelievable and too truncated.  There is no build and layering to the plots.  It is very frustrating that the show centers on one story for months to the  detriment of other characters and fans of the same. I have tuned out for months because it is just not entertaining. It is very sad.

    I actually preferred Trachta's Thorne to any of the other Thornes - mainly because of his excellent chemistry with Eakes (and I am one of the minority(?) who actually enjoyed their singing on the show) and the subtle sense of humor he brought to the character. I also liked Norcross's fragile Thorne but agree that he might not have worked long term as a plot-driving force. For me, it was quite hard getting into Harmon as Thorne because he seemed like such a departure from the first two Thornes who both had a certain gentleness and softness to them whereas Harmon played Thorne more "rural macho" (which made it almost impossible to believe that his Thorne grew up in a mansion in Beverly Hills). Ingo as Thorne to me is just an unfortunate parenthesis.

    At first I was impressed with KA as Taylor but now I find her "teenage vibe" inappropriate for Taylor. It's like she acts all the time the way HT's Taylor acted during that scene when Pierce had hypnotized her into reliving the '70s. And though I am somewhat relieved that the show is more or less ignoring the OOC mess that was post 2005 Taylor, they do have to take her actual unpunished serious crimes into account (her shooting Bill was always the elephant in the room during the whole time Sheila was kept from seeing Hayes while Taylor had full access).

    And yes, I agree the current writing leaves a lot to be desired in terms of storytelling and characterization. That is why I'm mainly interested in watching the classic episodes. 

  17. Just now catching up on the past two weeks...

    The toe in a petri dish? And then everyone having a photo of the toe on their phones and waving it around? While telling bad puns?

    My thoughts on the writing of the show right about now (to quote Emily Dickinson):

    "It dropped so low in my regard
    I heard it hit the ground"

  18. 6 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

    The whole angles used around Kevin worked a lot better than most PSA stories. Actually, it was so touching (I don’t want to spoiler Y&Rfan1983) when something really shocking happens around #1615.

    In my memory, the arrivals of James and Anthony more or less kill any momentum for future stories of the Anderson brothers, which would be too bad because these character do work surprisingly well.

     

    as for 1994: I remember to find Dylan and Jessica very dull / the storyline unlikeable because I never got why Eric and Stephanie went so ballistic against Dylan. I really look forward to the Universal Studios Remote. Can’t remember whether it was just a clip or one or two episodes where the young lovers enjoyed the amusement park. The rest makes it my alleine favorite year as well. Will be interesting to see whether this assessment will still stand out 

    Yes, I'm looking forward to EVERYTHING about 1994-1995 with the possible exception of the Jessica/Dylan storyline. In fact, if I remember correctly, there was a time in the second half of 1995 when all the awesome major high stakes storylines were resolved and all that was left was basically the Jessica/Dylan/Maggie triangle which at the time felt like a D story. My most vivid memory of Jessica is a scene with her playing the violin badly.

  19. 6 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:


    I am up to 1556 - 1558 and they are on FIRE! In the past, I often FF past certain scenes or storylines that don’t keep my attention… but not here…

    I am relishing to see Sheila in her full powers. She is secure in her new marriage, and she is starting to realize the joys of being rich! In her entire history on YR and BB, I have never seen her money-focused, but who wouldn’t be tempted by the “sweet life” once given a taste?  I loved her free and relaxed interactions here with Brooke. I’m not sure if she actually likes Brooke, but she definitely sees her as an ally. She confides in Brooke: “you’re my only friend… I’m very private” Oh, if Brooke only knew!  A hat-tip to the writers for throwing in little future plot-clues such as: “Harry Houdini once owned this house…rumor has it there are secret tunnels underneath!”

    I am very impressed so far with the Kevin story. It doesn’t feel preachy or PSA-like at all. (Cricket/Christine Blair Romalotti Williams should take notes)  The struggle to secure Kevin a job at the Bikini Bar feels very true-to-life.  I really appreciate that they cast Black actors. I love how Macy, while flailing in almost all areas of her life, is a passionate advocate for Kevin. I lol’d out loud when Aunt Ruthanne commented about Macy: “oh that’s right… she has a husband and a boyfriend!” 😂 My only minor criticism is surely Kevin does have his challenges in life and I would like to see that... to provide a full picture… perhaps that is forthcoming.

    The Sally/Stephanie scenes were delicious. Sally greets Stephanie with “free advice / a warning”… but by the end, Stephanie has turned the tables with a sly grin. In retrospect, I do view these scenes in a different light, knowing that Sally and Stephanie eventually come to a mutual understanding and respect… but that’s just fine.

    At the end of 1557 when Ridge barges into Eric’s office… does Trish look like she was caught with her hand in the cookie jar??

    I am all in for the Belief story and am making a point not to skip any scenes. I am mostly enjoying it. Stephanie forced to pretend to tolerate Brooke is fantastic to watch. And Karen subbing for Brooke for a Steve Massage is the most interesting thing Karen has done in months. However, I do not like the Connor actor and feel he is miscast. (I do wonder if I would have preferred Perry Stephens cast as Connor Davis!) And I definitely do not enjoy Connor and Ridge’s macho rivalry 🙄

    I agree this part of B&B is very good!

    I found that Connor was a poorly developed character in the beginning (and his high school backstory with Brooke and Ridge didn't add up because the age difference between Brooke and Ridge is too big for them ever to have been in high school at the same time). But watching the 1994 episodes I feel that Connor has finally become more developed. IMO Connor didn't really "come alive" until they started putting him in scenes with Anthony. Somehow Anthony brings Connor to life.

    I agree the Kevin storyline is very refreshing and respectfully told. Kevin is a wonderful and sweet character whose disability is part of who he is but doesn't define him. And his interactions with Keith and Macy are touching (agree that it is sweet how she advocates for him even though her own life is falling apart). I really like both Keith and Kevin and wish they had stayed on the show longer. 

  20. On 8/19/2022 at 3:18 AM, Soapfan8 said:

    What do you guys think about 94 so far compared to previous years?

    1994 and (the first half of) 1995 were my favorite years of B&B and rewatching 1994 now, I still feel that way. I love the storylines and can't wait for some of my all time favorites (Taylor's death and resurrection, Macy and Thorne's singing career, Sheila's unraveling, Ivana's murder). I also feel the character setup from this time is some of the best the show has had. The only thing I'm uncertain of is how I'll feel about the Jessica/Dylan storyline because I don't remember much about it. 

  21. 9 hours ago, Marquise said:

    I am at the beging at 1994 and all i hear is that Anthony is such a nice guy. The actor plays it well. But i can not stop thinking of what i know will happen and how he plyaed both Macy and Sally. By the way i almost forgot about the scene in the hot tube with the melting swimsuits lol

    I know, I wrote a lengthy post about him a few pages back about the very same thing! He is very charming and funny, but knowing how he will turn out it's pretty much impossible to see him that way and NOT look for signs of what is to come. To me, the scene where he used his supposed grief over a dead cat to gain Macy's sympathy took on a whole new meaning knowing he will pull that exact stunt again under far more sinister circumstances. And his plan with the swimsuits is not as harmless as it at first appears (and again, he does it one more time but creepier when Macy is trying on her wedding dress right before things get macabre).

    And there is no way he does NOT realize that he is driving a wedge between Sally and Macy, hurting both of them in the process. (And ironically, hurting Sally and Macy - to the point of almost separating them permanently - is another thing he will do again but worse.)

    That being said, he is a fascinating character I really enjoy watching.

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