Darn

I don't know how you could root for Patrick with anyone, he's such an idiot. And Richie could do better, so could Patrick's boss. Patrick acts like an 18 year old who's never seen a boy before, it's obnoxious. The whole thing with Richie is just weird because all they've had that we've seen is one stilted conversation on a bus and one terrible date. Why would Richie waste his time? I mean if he's really looking for something long term? And Agustin is a prick. The first night you move in with your excessively hot boyfriend and you're already bored? I could understand after maybe a few months but yeesh, way to be selfish. I like the other guy, the one with the mustache. I hope he doesn't break Scott Bakula's heart. I'm starting to think I watch this show because it's only half an hour long and we have on demand.

Don't read too much into that poll, of course Rick would come in last, he's incredibly weak right now both physically and mentally. Even more so than Michonne with her Rick like hallucinations (they're meant to be!) and much more so than Korl, who has youth on his side. I don't like Rick because I think Andrew Lincoln is a mediocre actor and that Rick is one of those tell, not show characters. He's the bestest leader in the world yet we don't actually see that, all we see really is episode after episode of indecisiveness. I like a layered lead character but perpetual self-doubt is not entertaining.

None of those shows would have done as well against the Olympics. Certainly no Sunday show. I think you have to be a crazy zeitgeist-y type show like TWD to do well against event television. I'm glad it did so well, that episode deserved it. I have a feeling we're in for a good string of episodes.

This episode was better than all of the first half of the season's episodes combined. I'm so irritated now at how much time they wasted on that virus and the Governor's nonsense.

Man, that video looks almost as cheap as Prospect Park soap. And the song reminds me of something the guys behind 'Friday' by Rebecca Black would make.

Andrea was ruined by Laurie Holden's portrayal, IMO. She came across so hard and just...smug, no matter the scene. But you're right, I tolerated that until the Woodbury arc. That whole mess damaged so many characters.

Who are GM and LH?

It was the highest rated night in Bravo history: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/01/07/bravo-media-shatters-ratings-records-sunday-with-its-best-night-in-network-history/227413/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29 I find it interesting that RHOA is the highest rated in the franchise (and has been for years) yet media seems to focus almost exclusively on the other Housewives series. "Interesting".

She's also been in 50 billion other things. She's one of those character actors that never stops working.

I'll take Moffat's constant attempts at epicness and myriad twist and turns over the cheesy crap RTD tried to pass off as drama. And I love River Song. Love her. Alex Kingston has had me since ER and that egg scene (if you've ever watched ER you know what I'm talking about). And River is fascinating. The whole timey wimey-ness of her conception and birth and marriage and death is one of the major strengths of the show: time travel. Also I'm just a big fan of stories that are plan in advance and (pretty much) make sense in the end. And that article is over a year old.

I don't "get" the Cybermen. They're not visually interesting or terribly scary (whereas I as a grown man think the Dalek's are pretty terrifying (they're garbage cans on wheelies, it's ridiculous!)) I don't know why they keep coming back other than they used to be one of the Doctor's big foes.

Well, they can't hire an underweight baby so you just have to accept some suspension of disbelief. And Daryl's reaction to underwhelming if you're at all a fan of the potential dramatic implications of Carol's exit. I'm sure they'll explore it more next season but by then it'll have been 3 episodes and 2 months since she left and it'll have lost its impact. This show doesn't know when to just let stuff happen organically.

Yes, they focused on her toward the very end of the episode, before Rick and Coral (that's how Rick says it) ran off.

It was okay. The first half was slow and took too long to get back to the prison. We didn't need two speeches from the Governor or the conversation with Rick that just went in circles. Man was that character badly written. Peace! I'm pretty sure the entire viewing audience called Herschel's death after his superhero episode a few weeks ago but it was still sad to see him go. Poor Maggie (and Beth, I guess). Rick is an idiot. I don't know why anyone lets him decide things. The Governor is insane, there was no talking to him, he honestly should have known better. I must say I'm excited about not knowing where the show is going. That's thrilling, to have everyone on the run again. We haven't had that in quite a while and I think it'll help re-energize the show.

The ratings have gone down every episode this season so far, wasn't the show on the exact opposite trajectory in the other seasons? I'm not one of those people that thinks good ratings equals good storytelling but this show is very zeitgeist-y and I worry what happens when it loses that. Luckily they have a lot of story still to tell, from Michonne's backstory to Daryl and Carol's potential, possible, future relationship. They didn't shoot their wad in the first season or anything.

How is that possible when Hurt was shown as the Doctor in the last episode? Did they intend for Eccleston to play the Doctor in that episode first? I just got inexplicably emotional over the idea of Matt Smith leaving. He's "my" Doctor and I just find him so incredibly talented and joyous in his portrayal. I would have loved to have seen him interact with Martha or Donna.

Ugh, Looking.

For the first time since the show started we decided not to watch last night's episode. The number of people who care about seeing the Governor featured for two solid episodes could fit into my shoe. And from what I've read the story hasn't moved an inch.

She's so bland. Donna, Martha and Amy are my favorites. Clara is too twee (so was Amy when she started but she got better). I liked Martha and Donna so much because they were Strong Female Characters™ without having to do "masculine" things to be seen as such. They were just...good people forced into extraordinary circumstances who showed they were up for the challenge. Clara seems to think she's already pretty effin special and I find it obnoxious. I have AAISAT downloaded. David Bradley looks so eerily like William Hartnell.

Quite enjoyed the special (I have a feeling *someone* here hated it), I didn't watch all of the last series. The Doctor and Clara are entirely too cheeky and I swear she's always smirking and practically winking at the camera to remind us how adorable she is. But Tennant and Smith were fantastic, so were Hurt and Billie Piper (couldn't stand Rose, don't get the all the fuss). I'm a New Who fan so while I didn't grow up with the show I'm a huge fan of the reverence the show has for it's own history. And I loved that the twisted the story of the Time War, it just doesn't seem like the Doctor to get quite that desperate and destroy so many people. In every other circumstance he finds another way but not with his own people? It didn't make sense, I like that they altered things to make him much more creative. He can travel through time! There's no good reason to leave his own race dead.

I worry about you...

I see we've reached the point in a series where TPTB are more enamored of a character/actor than the audience is. This episode was beyond dull. I have no idea why that family grew so attached Brian/Phillip/Boredom so quickly. Yes, he picked up their dad and got two oxygen tanks (he would have gotten more if he had killed some walkers but I guess on this show you either want to kill all the walkers or none of the walkers after a psychotic break). This half season is only 8 episodes and two of them are going to be wasted on how the Governor got back to the prison? We have to wait 3 episodes to see Darryl react to Carol leaving? Does this show have something against keep up the momentum?

Lol, that's insane. Maybe Carol didn't understand infectious diseases but she's not some psychopath wanting to murder anyone who threatened her existence.

That's not how Carol's thought process worked...she was trying to stop the virus when it had only infected two people, not willynilly killing everyone infected with the virus. Remember she still around after it spread and everyone was quarantined in Block C (or A or B or whatever block it is).

I agree about the writing, no matter the story they're telling or the showrunner the dialogue is incredibly hokey. I mean, some of the crap they have Rick say...and I swear Herschel's made the same speech 8 different ways since he first showed up. So has Rick actually. They speechify. I feel like I'm watching a Shonda Rhimes show. And the Governor is just so stupid, I 'd rather focus on the very real, in character repercussions of Rick abandoning Carol. I hate that Maggie just rolled over and accepted Rick's decision. It doesn't seem like her. But you know, if Rick says so (or if the show tells us repeatedly that he's a good leader) than it must be right and just. Don't get me started on the fence thing, the zombies were essentially moths and the prison a flame, there's no good reason they couldn't have taken them out one by one. And I'll never understand why they don't kill EVERY zombie they see.