Darn

On 4/24/2024 at 12:57 PM, titan1978 said:

Sonny has always been a popular character. My argument back then and now is that if he and Carly and Jason are the most popular characters why does that not translate to ratings? Guza and JFP made a quality show that drove millions of viewers away during their tenure.

I've thought this for years. I will never understand how they've become the faces of the show. And I don't think the show would lose much viewership if Sonny got a nice little exit story and the rest of the show was actually good.

5 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

The role was not very good, but I did like Brown's screen presence on B&B. She would be a good casting choice and draw in viewers who loved her on GH.

And they can use her in marketing materials. "3 time Emmy winner Sarah Brown returns to daytime!"

They'd be smart to get daytime legends and not a bunch of TP castoffs.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Oh, that's great. @Darn @DRW50 take a look!

I asked you this the other day (which you ignored), I wonder which soap operas Beau DeMayo watched as a kid. Because the argument between Scott and Jean was pure melodrama. The best kind. Not to mention all the close-ups and Kurt explicitly mentioning American soap operas in the last episode.

This show is going to need someone with passion, love and fan nostalgia for MP like the (former) showrunner of the X-Men '97 reboot to work. Paging @Vee.

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

Yeah she took 3.  Which I still think is super dangerous and very strange for Ava to just take a large dose of someone else's pills.  But....whatever.

I think it's monumentally stupid. And Ava's not stupid. I couldn't even see Joss doing that and she is stupid.

Minus the stupid stupidity of the setup I was impressed that we got to see Ava's bedroom, Sonny's bedroom and a bathroom. Y&R would've filmed all of that entirely on greenscreen. Or had Ava talk to herself about searching through Sonny's place for the pills.

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Sonny at least gets called out on his sh!t by a select few - but, according to everyone, the MetroCourt can't function without Carly, she can save magazines with no editorial experience, she can fight off thugs by her mere presence, save lives, Nina is responsible for everything that's gone wrong in Carly's life, and she has the most perfect hair doing it all! 

I refuse to believe Carly is a good boss. Someone with her disposition is not pleasant to work for. Nina probably isn't either but Carly is a mouthy and volatile, no way is she good to her employees. It's such annoying writing to make her amazing at everything.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

You think?  It feels like the same old same old to me because everything Sonny is doing can be tied back to his medication being tampered with.

I told this to @Vee but I'd actually be into this story if Sonny was simply being seen for who he is. Because outside of not believing Jason and trusting Ava he's not acting terribly out of character. He's rude, temperamental and shutting out members of his family. I find the medication tampering to be lazy tbh. Now they can blame it all on his meds and he can go back to town hero status. I'm sure Anna will be at his door in six months begging for forgiveness.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am still not onboard with CM's version of Drew, but it does give the character a different feel than Jason-lite, which has always been my issue with Drew.

I would HAPPILY see him leave but this is so much better than whatever that was with Carly. Drew and Carly, the self-righteous town bullies. All they did was tell the other how amazing they are and yell at Nina. That and commit crimes.

6 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Nope. Just being literal. No drama. But if you mean good-bye, that's fine with me. 

Donna, you said a few weeks ago that you blocked me. I didn't even expect you to see that. Listen, you ask easily Google-able questions, talk in riddles and now you're sharing questionable links. You cannot be this obtuse.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

The character of Sonny isn't challenging to anyone.  I am a 40 year old white woman and am pretty convinced I could play Sonny with more depth than MB.   I actually don't think it's all MB's fault although I do think he's lazy and doing this to pay off mortgages and college funds.  The writers pretty much give him the same thing to do regardless of regime.  I don't know if that's MB pushing for stories he likes or just writers not knowing where to go with the character though.

Doesn't he start whining whenever the writers try to take Sonny in new direction or have him lose? I know that was the case 10-15 years ago.

18 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I most certainly do NOT post nonsense. And, you are WAY out of line even suggesting such a thing. If you wish to talk about something that is ridiculous, it is some posters thinking they can make up sh*t about other posters & that it will somehow be okay. IT IS NOT OKAY. Knock it off. I am just a regular citizen here, posting like anyone else & I do not deserve or warrant treatment like this. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

This is so dramatic. Calm down. I said what I said and I mean what I said. Buh-buh-bye.

@Khan @carolineg Lmao I'm loving the Ryan. He's giving everything Ryan gave except now we're not supposed to find it charming so I'm kind of into it. Keep him this way. Angry, evil and overly emotional, the opposite of the silent saint that is Jason.

I complain about Maurice every chance I get. So I'm here to do it again! He's embarrassing and it's baffling that he's the face of GH and allowed to be as lazy as he is. Even Eric Braeden tries. Mo has glimmers of ability and brightens up with actors he likes but for everything else it's like muscle memory kicks in and he just coasts. When Steve Burton is more alive than you in a scene there's a problem.

I've said it before and I'll say it again blondes shouldn't date each other. Carly and Jagger look like a hate crime.

3 hours ago, janea4old said:

Honest question: When was the last time they made a promo to entice viewers?

Don't apologize to her, she regularly posts nonsense because any attention is good attention. I'm sorry but it's just ridiculous at this point. One day she's going to post a link to Russian malware and say "I thought they had Agnes' original bible for All My Children! ".

6 hours ago, Khan said:

It didn't take *me* by surprise, lol!

I'm not surprised by it but I completely get why he is, he hasn't (to me) played their scenes with even a hint of attraction. He was entirely too aggressive and mean-spirited in his deliver to imagine any underlying attraction. But I'm glad they went for it! Nice to see some PASSION on this show. Even between two characters I have little use for.

Does Stacy Haiduk have a large tattoo on her back?

48 minutes ago, janea4old said:

 

I mean, the picture is only a year old. That's not so bad. And the cast has hardly changed since then.

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

Blaze continues to have the wardrobe of a Hot Topic shopper from 2003 and the personality of driftwood.

An insult to wood. And drifting.

They need to settle on a personality for her. She gives generic dayplayer at every turn, especially for someone going by "Blaze". Blaze your äss off my screen if this don't pick up.

These budget friendly episodes are just so sad to see.

8 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I completely understood what you meant. The impact of change of one cog in the machine - or one member of the committee - is only that much, no more. But it can be true that a team is improved by change. It's not necessarily neutral nor is it always a bad thing. I think we're on the same page. 

No one knows what page you're on, Donna.

I think the optics are pretty terrible to fire their only black breakdown writer, even if she has no say in story direction. We'll see I suppose. I'm sure this means Mulcahey is bringing on writers with a similar sensibility to his, I just hope they have some melanin. Blah, blah, blah race shouldn't matter but guess what? It does. You don't see the world through the same lens I do and that should be a factor in the writers room.

I have to say I think yesterday was the weakest of the Mulcahey/Korte's new batch of episodes. Liz's "I'm sorry, I'm so so sorry" to Jake was just weird, why are you apologizing? Thankfully he also apologized.

BTW Liz has raised 3 lovely kids, it's nice to see. No asshöles. Yet! They're still young. My money's on Jake.

I can only imagine the firestorm of controversy that would be ignited daily if they're a family rich off of haircare, which might not be so such a bad thing for viewership. They could have entire plots about protective styles, lacefronts, natural haircare. We'd have furious debates within the show about the big chop vs. another silk press while every actress will likely be wearing a wig anyway (as is becoming the norm across all of TV, regardless of color).

Listen, as long as it's not pancake mix, rice or ice cream I think I'll be happy.

5 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I replied to someone else who thought of Cam, as I did also & you pointed out that the show has no interest in Cam anymore. I don't think it creates any imbalance at all necessarily for fans to talk about characters or things the show is not going to pursue. Now, if what fans were interested in & what stories the show wanted to tell were extremely different, then, sure that could create a disconnect or even cognitive dissonance. And that would be an enormous problem, but not one of balance per se. Cam, for example, is not even a dropped thread. We know where he is & why he's there. Perhaps this is more clear. 

This is even more nonsensical than your first reply.

Can someone who's mastered effective written communication please translate this for me? You don't need to reply anymore, Donna.

9 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Not the first time & won't be the last time that fans consider certain things or characters that the show is not at all invested in. Doesn't even matter & is not a problem, either.

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say to me here. How does it not matter and how is it not a problem? I think it's a big problem because it creates an imbalanced show.

2 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Made me think about Cam & karma. 

This show doesn't care about Cam as a character. At all. They jumped through hoops to justify and excuse Joss cheating on him when the drama came FROM Joss cheating on him.

I have my issues with Kevin, the negrologist, explaining how this could have happened to the three fairly intelligent black people in front of him but I liked a lot of what he had to say AND I found it surprisingly intellectual. We weren't spoonfed how to feel or presented with a bunch of dumb downed dialogue (the word "amazing" wasn't used ONCE to describe someone!). My god they used the word "quiescence"! 

I also found Diane's explanation of how Alexis could get her license back plausible. I think, it sounded realistic enough to me!

I LOVED the Tracy/Stella scenes, I didn't know I needed them to interact until I did. 

I enjoyed the Olivia and Lois scenes as well, they were nice and quiet and felt like two friends just talking. It was a stark contrast to the last extended Olivia/Lois scenes when they argued over Nina's secret. Those scenes were literally them talking in circles extended over an entire episode, just mind-numbingly stupid. Today on the other hand felt organic and lived in.

Are all this standalone episodes a budget thing or does Josh think he's an auteur?

Kevin, the black whisperer, is a nice steady presence and I like that Laura is the lead in that relationship (seriously it's so rare on this show for the woman to be the driving force of story in a relationship) so I've accepted that they're in it for the long haul.

9 hours ago, janea4old said:

I think Mayor Collins is the real Laura, and I stand by that.

I think it's definitely the most effective use of her, especially when she doesn't have any of her children on canvas. Typically without much family around you get placed on the backburner but as mayor Laura gets to consistently be part of the action without having to be in constant personal crises.

12 hours ago, Vee said:

I remember @Darn absolutely roasting the Korbel, reliquary, etc. era back in the day. I wonder how he feels with hindsight. I sometimes get the sense the show perhaps had more of a focus on cultivating a new generation then than it does now.

That period drove me away from the show, the reliquary nonsense, Amelia Heinle's acting and Davetta Sherwood's firing all culminated in me dropping the show. In hindsight I'd happily take that mess back over the last 20 years of absolute garbage.

I quite liked Adrienne Leon as Colleen and I LOVED Lyndsy Fonseca, I thought she looked like a perfect combination of Traci and Brad. I also thought she and Davetta had excellent best friend chemistry. I don't know wtf was happening behind the scenes on the show on that time but their over investment in people like Gloria and Kevin was just mind-boggling.

I'm glad Kevin is there to explain racism to the black people. I'm sorry but the fact that the black characters didn't consider this or voice it is actually insane. Especially with two older black people in the family.

Nina says Sonny's name once per episode but hasn't mentioned Willow in weeks. She don't care about that girl, she was just mad that Carly kept something from her. Willow doesn't care about her either.

Carly Roberts, etc. exclusively, fully and without question for the first 5 years of her tenure on the show. She's grown a bit since and exhibits true concern for others but her initial stories were incredibly narcissistic.

Sonny Corinthos basically the entire time he's been on the show. He only cares about people he views as either an extension of himself (like his children) or who fall in line with his temper tantrums. Look at how quickly he iced out Nina, a woman who 6 months ago he declared he'd love for life, when she committed a pretty marginal sin against his preferred loved one Carly.