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TBH, that's exactly where I thought they would be going after Eva got angry at Tomas with the way he acted in the hotel room when Kat showed up. Tomas is speaking out of both sides of his mouth and he is trying to have his cake and eat it too. I wouldn't be surprised if Eva and Kat find out he was playing both of them and this is what brings them together for a time to take him down. Although, this is just a complete shot in the dark and my assumption from Eva's reaction yesterday.

OMG!

Yeah, I think Kat knows she only gave up her virginity to keep Tomas from Eva. I don't think she was as ready for this as she assumed.

Boy, Tomas talking out both side of his mouth and Kat losing her virginity on a couch... messy.

When Naomi handed the waitress her card she gave her a bit of a look and the waitress reciprocated like they knew what to do and not to create a bigger situation with June. Tomas wants his cake and to eat it too.

I think we have come to accept that the ages on this soap have started wonky, especially with Martin as Nicole's child - some things we just have to accept and roll with, but I totally get it.

All I know is that JM is looking fione!

Yes, when Anita performed karaoke with Dani and Naomi, I assumed that song was one of her solo hits. It did have a NJS vibe too it, so it would mean Anita was definitely solo by the late 80s/early90s. Diana Ross's 1989 album is very NJS. Similarly, Donna Summer's '91 album also dabbled heavily in NJS. Donna Summer wasn't in a famous group like Diana Ross, but she was definitely a contemporary of Ross and may provided some inspiration as well. Some info on Summer: Donna Summer, known as the "Queen of Disco," was part of the blues rock band Crow in 1967, shortly before she became famous as a solo artist. Additionally, her sisters, Linda Gaines, Dara Bernard, and Mary Ellen Bernard, were part of a disco group called Sunshine, which provided backing vocals for Donna Summer and had a hit with "Take It to the Zoo" in 1978.

Just saw the post, based on the fashions it's more likely late 70s and possibly early, early 80s. The man in platforms is very disco eras fashion.

Hmmm...good question. I may be misremembering, but I am pretty confident that one of the times that Nicole mentioned meeting Ted at the conference, she said she was a resident.

I must have been typing before you posted this. Yes, exactly. Anita should definitely be in that age range.

It's hard to say as soaps usually work in their own reality, but Anita should be well into her 70s, if not technically early 80s. Nicole met Ted when she was a resident, which means she would have been about 25/26 at the youngest. Nicole has mentioned being married to Ted close to 3 decades. Even if Nicole married right away, that would mean Nicole is in her mid-50s. I doubt that Anita had Nicole at a young age because she is always talking about how focused she was on her career. It also leaves Martin's age a little shaky. Even though Martin looks like he's in his 30s, he has adopted children that are teenagers, but his parents have been together less than 30 years, so Martin is supposedly under 30.

Dani's guesthouse aka Kat and Chelsea's new place is such a wasted set. It could have been someone's office/place of work or anything else really. We don't even see it regularly.

We all thought the Articulettes were going to give us Motown, but based on what Anita was dancing to, it was giving this...

I've been catching bits of Y&R recently since I'm home, but it's just background noise as I do things before watching BTG, but I need to ask. Why are all these people in a labyrinth/maze? It's so odd since I have no idea what's going on and everytime I look up there's someone in this garden maze.

Tomas really set up Eva bad. I'm glad she let him know what time it was. How are you not going to hide and then act so stupidly.

As much as I agree, it some ways it also feels like anyone can be President.

Jacob knew there was no camera footage from Orphey's, he knows who Lesile is and he definitely knows who Nicole is, he should have walked into Nicole's house and said look there's nothing really here but I have time get a statement and we are going to wrap this up just promise not to get yourself provoked by Lesile again because I don't want to make this a thing. This happens all the time, too. I am ranting about Jacob. I don't mind that he is being played as this overly by the book character because it will obviously bring drama down the line.

Then, why lie to Bill about having an ultrasound?

The idea of the Allison/Chelsea/Madison triangle is solid, but it is moving way too fast. I wished they had developed Chelsea's role in Craig and Allison's relationship more fully and then explored Chelsea and Allison as a pairing more deeply. I'm curious to understand why Allison pushed Chelsea away when she first suggested seeing her separately. Was this already part of Allison's game or was it genuine and Allison felt conflicted about seeing Chelsea without Craig? What were Craig and Allison's rules for bringing in a third party? It also would have been interesting if Allison did randomly appear with a bruise before all this potential abuse had started. A real bruise that Craig caused or one caused by accident, but Chelsea would have called back to how she remembered Allison coming to her with a bruise and being weird about it. It would create more doubt around Allison's motives. Jacob pisses me off! Families and friends with connections with police, usually count on police to downplay or soften things like this, especially well connected families like the Duprees. It would be another thing if this was a murder. On top of it all, we are dealing with Leslie here who Jacob is well aware of his antics. I understand he wants to play by the book, but the way he approached Nicole (who is family) was wild. He could have said look Nicole, I need to get this statement and I will let you know that Leslie is claiming x,y, and z. Instead, he was ready to take her in. The irony is that he wants to do his job so well by playing by every rule to the extreme, but he needs to rely on Kat and Smitty to make sense of anything.

Very curious how they will make this work, because unless Leslie is seriously redeemed, it will be hard to look as Ted as anything but pathetic. He claims to have ruined his marriage on a mistake yet seems to allow and give Lesile the time of day anytime she is around. The fact they have a daughter together keeps them tied, but unless Lesile tones it down, it just is hard to believe. Ted has done a complete 180 nearly. It is hard to understand the character. Omg, yes! Just what I was thinking. Great reflection. It's conflicting, because the actress is so good, but it does come across cartoonish sometimes.

For someone who says they don't want to put Kat's laundry out there he is putting it alllll out there even the fact he denied her.

So Nicole choking out Leslie at Orphey Gene's, the press conference/Kenny's death, Nicole and Dani finding out, Hayley showing Bill the sonogram, the Articulette's showing up at Anita's door, Bill and Ted's convo, Eva fixing the accreditation and gathering Kat and Ted, Alison running into Orphey's and to the hospital all happened in a 24ish hour period...hmmm interesting. I guess Haley is only 10 weeks. 😆

Hayley's motive from an outside perspective is unclear, especially when Bill has done nothing to make Hayley feel insecure in their relationship. In fact, he has proven that Dani is nothing to him in front of Hayley more than once. As a few of you mentioned, it doesn't help that Hayley has no one to talk to and give us insights to her internal dialogue and workings. There have been moments where we can interpret that Hayley is interested in a come up like when she whined about not being accepted in the country club and we have seen similar moments of jealousy when Bill and Dani have talked and Hayley shoots her death glare. However, these are very small instances to have pushed Hayley to fake a whole pregnancy. I could understand had things happened or at least appeared to be reigniting between Dani and Bill, but at this point it seems pretty poor foresight and heavy risk to try and pull a stunt like this.

I know that some on here peeped June's well manicured hands and how glaring that was to be an overlooked mistake. I mean it could have been really careless, but what if June is Hayley's surrogate and she's providing for her in some ways. Although, it would be super messy to have your surrogate living out in the underpass.